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The termination and removal of Ward Churchill (could use a good fisking)
Indian Country Today ^ | 2/17/2005 | Scott Richard Lyons

Posted on 02/19/2005 2:54:17 PM PST by Harkonnendog

At the very least, even the toughest identity police among us will have to admit that, as a United States citizen, Churchill has the right to ethnically self-identify in any way he wants, as is the official policy of the U.S. Census Bureau. But even if he is a white man (which I am not prepared to admit as fact, since all the ''evidence'' seems based on hearsay), my question is: so what? It's not like an author of his stature and reputation needs the helping hand of affirmative action to land a job.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; churchill; littleeichmanns; nativeamerican; wardchurchill
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1 posted on 02/19/2005 2:54:18 PM PST by Harkonnendog
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To: Harkonnendog
(could use a good fisking)

LOL! I thought it said a good fisting at first. I was like, whoah! That's gross!!

2 posted on 02/19/2005 2:56:00 PM PST by JCRoberts (We're at war. You think we're going to win it with a bunch of fish-eaters...Denny Crane)
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To: Harkonnendog

Churchill and Lyons, like Fisk, need someone to beat some sense INTO them.


3 posted on 02/19/2005 3:01:05 PM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: Harkonnendog

—John Adams:
"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people, who have a right and a desire to know; but besides this, they have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to know that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge, I mean of the characters and conduct of their rulers." And of the character and conduct of educators of our youth!


4 posted on 02/19/2005 3:05:02 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: Harkonnendog

My brain isn't working... What's a "fisking"?


5 posted on 02/19/2005 3:10:08 PM PST by fuquadukie (If you can't hang with the big dogs, then don't jump off the porch.)
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To: Harkonnendog
"Churchill has the right to ethnically self-identify in any way he wants"

Not when he's using a false Ethnic ID to obtain benefits and set asides reserved for certain minorities. This guy is nuts.

6 posted on 02/19/2005 3:14:46 PM PST by drt1
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To: Harkonnendog

Scott Richard Lyons author of this piece:

Bio: I am Ojibwe (Bullhead Clan) and grew up at Leech Lake Reservation in northern Minnesota. Before coming to Syracuse in 2002, I taught English and Anishinaabe Studies at Leech Lake Tribal College and worked with a range of local activist groups seeking Ojibwe language revitalization, environmental justice, and community renewal. I also performed as an actor with a traveling Native theatre company. In summertime I can usually be found lugging my kids around the northern powwow circuit.

http://www-hl.syr.edu/depts/NAS/People.htm


7 posted on 02/19/2005 3:19:58 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Harkonnendog

His wages are being paid by you and I. So his freedom of speech doesn't apply. If he wants to make his statements, then he should use a forum where he pays for it himself or some other private, communist, America hating group, BUT NOT BY OUR TAX DOLLARS.


8 posted on 02/19/2005 3:20:46 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Harkonnendog
...[Churchill] committed the cardinal sin of asking Americans to consider the facts and think for themselves, when what we are supposed to be doing is worship at the altar of American exceptionalism.

I don't know what this idiot writer has been smoking, but it must be powerful.

9 posted on 02/19/2005 3:25:09 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: purpleland

Well quoted and well said.


10 posted on 02/19/2005 3:25:47 PM PST by Ragnorak
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To: Harkonnendog
NO!!! It is not in our best interest to have Churchill removed!! Let hims stay so that the Dem's have to defend this piece of human fecal matter well into '08.

Wound them, don't kill them.

11 posted on 02/19/2005 3:29:29 PM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: JCRoberts

not if your fists are landing up side his head!!


12 posted on 02/19/2005 3:33:12 PM PST by cajun-jack
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To: JCRoberts
Let's hope it was a typo and he gets a good one. A steel toed boot would be more appropriate in creating the mud hole.
13 posted on 02/19/2005 3:48:14 PM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: fuquadukie
Robert Fisk

This article doesn't go into detail, but he blamed America for his beating and decided it was appropriate. I agree that the beating was appropriate.

14 posted on 02/19/2005 4:39:54 PM PST by SmithL (Proud Submariner)
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961

Wound them, don't kill them.


Put a stake through their rotten heart. Never let an enemy linger to draw up on you.


16 posted on 02/19/2005 7:00:41 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668)
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To: Harkonnendog
At the very least, even the toughest identity police among us will have to admit that, as a United States citizen, Churchill has the right to ethnically self-identify in any way he wants, as is the official policy of the U.S. Census Bureau.

The Census Bureau policy is irrelevant for purposes of this discussion. CU's policy is the relevant standard.

The application Churchill filled out stated clearly that the description Native American/Pacific Islander applied only to persons descended from the original peoples of North America.

17 posted on 02/19/2005 7:24:45 PM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The application Churchill filled out stated clearly that the description Native American/Pacific Islander applied only to persons descended from the original peoples of North America.

Moreover, Churchill claimed Affirmative Action preference on his application. He was one of eleven Native Americans who applied for the job, one of two who were interviewed.

I rather doubt that the other Native American who was interviewed would feel quite so dismissive about Churchill's true ancestry as Mr. Lyons is.

18 posted on 02/19/2005 8:57:01 PM PST by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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To: Ragnorak

Thanks.


19 posted on 02/19/2005 9:26:06 PM PST by purpleland (The price of freedom is vigilance.)
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To: drt1
If Churchill or anyone else has the right to self-identify, affirmative action is finished. And lots of big money's going into "Indian" gambling. Well, 'self-identify" gambling. And taxless tobacco. No rules. It's the wild wild west all over again.

"Churchill has the right to ethnically self-identify in any way he wants"

20 posted on 02/19/2005 9:34:01 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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