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Anti-illegal immigrant column stirs up college
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Posted on 02/20/2005 2:54:22 PM PST by occutegirl

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1 posted on 02/20/2005 2:54:22 PM PST by occutegirl
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on illegal immigrants has critics calling it a racist incitement to violence.

Sound familiar?

2 posted on 02/20/2005 2:56:37 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Easter/Passover ~ February 15 - March 4, 2005)
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To: occutegirl

Hey, it's not like Mexico is throwing billions in crude oil to us for free in exchange for the massive expense of their people.
I want them out also. Let them make legal applications.

I'd rather have skilled people immigrating here, not a nation of grape pickers from the south.


3 posted on 02/20/2005 2:57:22 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: occutegirl

I'd like to read what he said. He may have crossed the line and he may not have. I doubt he did, because you can be certain if he truly called for violence, he'd have been castrated by now. The truth is that he probably addressed the impropriety of illegal immigration, and obtained the same reaction those of us who agree with him, do here.


4 posted on 02/20/2005 3:00:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: occutegirl
A college newspaper opinion piece calling for a crackdown on illegal immigrants has critics calling it a racist incitement to violence.

Surreal. To call for enforcement of the law is now equated with racisim. The vast majority of this country, including many hispanics, are opposed to this invasion. Press on good men, keep up the good work.

5 posted on 02/20/2005 3:03:23 PM PST by NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
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To: occutegirl
Students For Community Action, a campus socialist group, and MEChA, a campus Chicano group, have called for a retraction and apology from the Sun for publishing the commentary.

Socialist chicano group wants an apology.

6 posted on 02/20/2005 3:03:31 PM PST by stopem (Support the troops yellow ribbon purse-key-holders.)
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To: occutegirl

I'd like a copy of the whole piece.

I L-O-V-E the "leaches" - as in the ILLEGALS drawing off of our wealth... REGARDLESS, REGARDLESS of race, color, creed, etcetera.

And the "can't come out and say this" crowd just proves my point: They're ILLEGAL ALIENS who need to be punished.


7 posted on 02/20/2005 3:04:27 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl
"A college newspaper opinion piece calling for a crackdown on illegal immigrants has critics calling it a racist incitement to violence."

Hmmmm... Sounds like something some of the more vocal FROBL's would say.

8 posted on 02/20/2005 3:05:11 PM PST by drt1
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Students For Community Action, a campus socialist group, and MEChA, a campus Chicano group, have called for a retraction and apology from the Sun for publishing the commentary."


9 posted on 02/20/2005 3:05:58 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage ("We are all sinners. But jerks revel in their sins." PJ O'Rourke)
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To: occutegirl
"We feel he crossed the line," said MEChA co-chairwoman Gaby Arenivas. "He's attacking a group of people that can't come and tell him, 'No, don't do this.' "

Let them go home and protest.

So9

10 posted on 02/20/2005 3:06:15 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: ScottFromSpokane; Baynative; HannaUSA; Vicki; Diva Betsy Ross

FYI - BIG WHOPPING TIME!!!


11 posted on 02/20/2005 3:07:16 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Servant of the 9

Me, too.

This to me is no different than the Mexican military invading this country...

This crap makes me burn red...


12 posted on 02/20/2005 3:07:57 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl
...burn the leaches (sic)...

Leaches = leeches

You have to love college students who can write but can't spell.

13 posted on 02/20/2005 3:09:18 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: Josef1235

They're ILLEGAL ALIENS who need to be punished.
They are CRIMINAL INVADERS and need to be treated as such!


15 posted on 02/20/2005 3:09:55 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (a bullet only costs two bits.)
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To: Servant of the 9

---"We feel he crossed the line," said MEChA co-chairwoman Gaby Arenivas. "He's attacking a group of people that can't come and tell him, 'No, don't do this.' "----

Using that logic, we should never critcize the left...they're not capable of [intellectually] defending themselves.

When they play the race card, it's because they have nothing else.


16 posted on 02/20/2005 3:10:57 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's.....you weren't really there.)
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To: occutegirl
The Scourge of MEChA

From "El Plan de Aztlan
": In the spirit of a new people that is conscious not only of its proud historical heritage but also of the brutal "gringo" invasion of our territories, we, the Chicano inhabitants and civilizers of the northern land of Aztlan from whence came our forefathers, reclaiming the land of their birth and consecrating the determination of our people of the sun, declare that the call of our blood is our power, our responsibility, and our inevitable destiny.

17 posted on 02/20/2005 3:11:20 PM PST by paleocon patriarch ("Never attribute to a conspiracy that which can be explained by incompetence.")
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To: occutegirl
"He's attacking a group of people that can't come and tell him, 'No, don't do this.' "

Why can't he do that?

Do Mexicans know anything about free speech?

18 posted on 02/20/2005 3:12:19 PM PST by Noachian (We're all one judge away from tyranny.)
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To: occutegirl

That article is so infuriating. The totalitarian and racist left must be purged from the body politic. Socialists and racial supremacists are calling the article racist and an incitement to violence. If that ain't the pot calling the kettle black then I don't know what is. And then you've got the idiotic student body president considering taking half of the newspaper budget from the liberal school paper to use it for publication of a far left newspaper. The totalitarian nature of the far left is clearly demonstrated by the ousting of Mecha's faculty adviser when she sided with free speech.


19 posted on 02/20/2005 3:13:37 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead (Islam is religion of piece established for profit by Muhammad, piss be upon him.)
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To: Noachian

We feel he crossed the line," said MEChA co-chairwoman Gaby Arenivas."

Actually, Gabby,it was the illegals who crossed the line.


20 posted on 02/20/2005 3:14:04 PM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: occutegirl
A college newspaper opinion piece calling for a crackdown on illegal immigrants has critics calling it a racist incitement to violence.

An editorial suggesting that the law be enforced is "racist incitement to violence"?

"He's attacking a group of people that can't come and tell him, 'No, don't do this.' "

Why can't they? Oh, yeah. Because they're breaking the law!

21 posted on 02/20/2005 3:15:50 PM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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To: occutegirl

Any story about illegals is going to stir up the universities.


22 posted on 02/20/2005 3:16:12 PM PST by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: Noachian
You have to love college students who can write but can't spell.

They're more lovable than college administrators who hire based on political correctness (excerpt from an earlier San Diego Sun edition follows):

"Norma Hernandez, 65, has served as Southwestern College's interim president since the board dismissed Serafin Zasueta in January 2003.

She was not among the finalists identified by a search committee, but Southwestern trustees decided they wanted to continue to consider her anyway.

A 22-member search committee identified a handful of finalists this spring. Trustees announced in an e-mail to campus employees in early May: "The Board is not satisfied with the gender and/or the ethnic diversity of the finalist pool of candidates sent forward by the presidential search committee."
23 posted on 02/20/2005 3:17:33 PM PST by kenavi ("Remember, your fathers sacrificed themselves without need of a messianic complex." Ariel Sharon)
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To: occutegirl
"We feel he crossed the line," said MEChA co-chairwoman Gaby Arenivas. "He's attacking a group of people that can't come and tell him, 'No, don't do this.' "


Thousands of her supporters used to cross a line (the border) with impunity every day, not anymore.. get used to it, Gaby

24 posted on 02/20/2005 3:20:04 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Dane; bayourod; Ben Ficklin

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Students For Community Action, a campus socialist group, and MEChA, a campus Chicano group, have called for a retraction and apology from the Sun for publishing the commentary."

Just thought you would like to know that you share postions with SCA and MEChA.


25 posted on 02/20/2005 3:22:02 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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To: NormsRevenge

Thousands still cross our borders each day.


26 posted on 02/20/2005 3:23:13 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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To: FactsMatter

Good point. Thanks.


27 posted on 02/20/2005 3:25:22 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

I concur.


28 posted on 02/20/2005 3:26:06 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl

Let's see. Illegal aliens are ... well...illegal. Burglars are...hmmm...illegal!

Since these twits seem to think illegal aliens can do what they want, I suggest we allow burglars to do what they want.

OK folks?


29 posted on 02/20/2005 3:27:29 PM PST by lawdude (Leftists see what they believe. Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: occutegirl; All
Okay, thanks to Mad Mikey - I have been able to find a copy of THE editorial. I downloaded his, shrunk it to a 800X600 size and then put it at http://tinypic.com/1sf7r7 for a copy. Or just look at below:


30 posted on 02/20/2005 3:29:02 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl
MECHhA owes all of us an apology for thinking they can use irredentism to demythologize Aztlan.
31 posted on 02/20/2005 3:32:36 PM PST by mrobison (We are the music makers and we are the dreamers of dreams.)
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To: NEBUCHADNEZZAR1961
To call for enforcement of the law is now equated with racisim

That happens on FR from time to time.

32 posted on 02/20/2005 3:33:13 PM PST by dirtboy (Drooling moron since 1998...)
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To: Josef1235

http://www.americanpatrol.com/MECHA/MEChAindex.html - Scorge of MEChA


33 posted on 02/20/2005 3:33:15 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: doxteve

FYI


34 posted on 02/20/2005 3:34:53 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: Josef1235

http://tinypic.com/1sf7r7 - right HTML code stuff...


35 posted on 02/20/2005 3:35:37 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl
"MECh-A!"

The sound my cat makes coughing-up a hairball.


36 posted on 02/20/2005 3:38:21 PM PST by pabianice
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To: occutegirl
I don't think the illegal immigrant lobby will be pleased to see the anti-illegal invasion song on this --


37 posted on 02/20/2005 3:42:28 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: occutegirl
Perhaps the Mecha activists should have a BIIIIGGGG protest.

And the INS could show up and do a great BIIIIGGGG raid. "La Migra"

38 posted on 02/20/2005 3:42:37 PM PST by Montfort
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To: Josef1235

Southwestern College Sun Statement Regarding the Opinion Piece Entitled

“Illegal immigrants are taxing on American Citizens”

The editorial board and faculty advisor of the Southwestern College Sun would like to express our appreciation to the student and faculty representatives of the SWC MEChA and Students For Community Action for the opportunity to engage in a direct and honest dialogue Thursday afternoon. We believe the meeting was constructive, informative and enlightening. We appreciate the candor and commitment of all who participated. We are pleased that we are able to agree on most of the concerns that were voiced. We acknowledge that there are points on which we do not seem to agree. We understand and respect the points of view of people who have positions that differ from ours.

The editorial board and almost the entire staff of the Sun disagree with the premises and conclusions of the writer of the Viewpoints section article titled “Illegal immigrants are taxing on American Citizens.” The Sun is comprised primarily of progressive-minded individuals whose personal beliefs are incongruent with the views expressed in that opinion piece. The Sun strives to represent and cover all segments of the Southwestern College Community with professionalism, fairness, accuracy and respect. Sun staff members overwhelmingly share the values of MEChA and SFCA members with respect to human rights, civil rights and the sanctity of all people.

The meeting and the campus-wide conversation about the article have been useful and informative to the members of the Sun. We have learned that we need to clarify the role of the Viewpoints section of the newspaper. We have learned that we need to do a better job clarifying what is staff-generated news reporting and what is individual opinion. We acknowledge that the current graphic style that places by-lines and staff titles a top opinion pieces written by individuals implies the staff’s complicity with the individual’s opinion in some readers’ minds. We have learned we need to do a better job teaching about the power of language and metaphor, and their connotative and emotive powers.

As a First Amendment Forum newspaper the Sun is ethically and morally obligated to serve its community by providing a forum for free expression representing all segments of our great and diverse society. Persons of all political, philosophical and religious persuasions in the Southwestern College community are entitled to exercise their rights of free expression in the Sun by submitting letters to the editor or opinion/editorial pieces. The Sun places high priority on providing space for members of the community who write to the paper. We pledge, in this case, to add pages to the paper if that is what is required to publish a wide array of letters.

The Sun is obligated to run letters and op/ed pieces its staff as a whole may not agree with. It is obligated to run letters critical of its coverage or its presentation. The staff believes that freedom of expression must include opportunities for a range of viewpoints to find voice, including unpopular opinions.

The Sun acknowledges that the “Illegal immigrants” article is offensive to some persons in our community, including most members of the staff. The staff acknowledges, in hindsight, that some of the language and verbal imagery may seem harsh and demeaning. The Sun staff regrets that the article caused hurt feelings, anger and/or resentment. That is contrary to what the staff tries to do in its work. The writer of the article has also expressed his regrets over some of the word choices, metaphors and the uncomfortable emotions the article engendered in some members of our campus community.

As students sworn to honor and uphold the tenants of the First Amendment and freedom of expression that guides sound professional journalism in the United States, members of the Sun acknowledge and unwaveringly support the Constitutional rights of the writer to express his point of view on the controversial topic of immigration. We support the rights of individuals on both the left and right ends of the political spectrum to express their views – including those we may personally find abhorrent.

The Sun staff and its advisor will continue to follow the tenants of American Constitutional law and serve its community as a First Amendment Forum newspaper. The Sun invites all individuals and groups who take issue with articles, opinion pieces and other work published in the Sun to express their points of view by submitting letters to the editor or requesting the opportunity to publish an opinion/editorial piece.

The Sun editorial board will print letters critical of the immigrant article, the newspaper’s position on the First Amendment and related issues. Deadline for letters for the first issue of the spring semester is 5 p.m. February 17. As our policy states in the newspaper’s masthead on page two, the Sun reserves the right to edit letters for libel and length and will not consider letters that arrive unsigned. All e-mailed letters must have a current and working phone number to allow verification of the author.

The staff wishes to extend its support and respect to MEChA, SFCA and all campus organizations. We hope to have a meaningful and productive working relationship with members of campus clubs and organizations in 2005 and look forward to hearing about your events and activities. Please let us know if we can be of service publicizing and covering campus activities this semester.

Again, thank you for the opportunity to hear your points of view and to share ours.

Respectfully,

Christopher Wybenga Max Branscomb
Editor in Chief Faculty Advisor

(representing the editorial board)

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39 posted on 02/20/2005 3:42:50 PM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Noachian
You say he was calling all illegals "leeches"?

"It is time to burn the leaches (sic) off our society

I thought he was talking burning out about Juanita Leach & her family, from Matamoros, who sneaked across the border 5 years ago, then...

Just a simple error of capitalization, and that was why MeCHA was ticked.

40 posted on 02/20/2005 3:45:21 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: Josef1235



FIST fights campus racism
By Ruth Vela
San Diego, Calif.

Published Feb 13, 2005 7:32 PM
The San Diego chapter of Fight Imperialism-Stand Together (FIST) was created and operates out of Southwestern College, the southernmost school in California. A majority of its students are of Mexican descent. Some live in Tijuana, Mexico, and must commute into the United States to attend school every day.



FIST
Many students are not "legal" U.S. citizens. As such, they often pay higher fees, do not qualify for financial aid and cannot apply for scholarships. On top of homework and tests, they have to worry about incarceration and deportation.

Recently the Southwestern College school newspaper, The Sun, ran an editorial by one of its staff writers entitled, "Illegal Immigrants Are Taxing on American Citizens." The piece was a blatant attack on immigrants. It stated, "It is time to burn the leeches off of our society and crack down on the people who flagrantly take advantage of America's wealth and prosperity."

Some students believe the article also included fictitious quotes, like this one from Marjorie De La Cruz: "The government needs to tighten if not close its southern borders to protect its citizens and legal immigrants from the inevitable poverty and diseases these people bring."

In response to this racist attack, members of FIST, MEChA and other campus organizations have formed the ERACISM coalition. The coalition launched a campaign that has collected over 700 signatures from students who feel attacked, harassed and let down by Southwestern College, The Sun newspaper and the school administration.

The administration has responded by sending campus police to harass students in an effort to prevent the distribution of flyers and collection of signatures. It has been trying to sweep the movement under the rug.

Emails mentioning FIST members by name and referring to the group as "just one or two upset students" have circulated among administrators who seem to value their positions more than their students.

On Jan. 27, representatives of the student organizations and their advisors met with the editors and professor in charge of the newspaper in an effort to put the issue to rest.

The following demands were presented to the staff of The Sun: 1) A printed apology from The Sun to the students of Southwestern College; 2) a retraction of the line that begins, "It's time to burn the leeches off of our society ..."; 3) that limitations be set on what the school newspaper can print; 4) that the student coalition's rebuttal be printed without censorship; and 5) that the school newspaper remain free of racist propaganda.

Unfortunately, the meeting ended with Nathaniel Pownell, the writer of the piece, screaming, "I am not a racist. ... I will not apologize for the article, I will never apologize for the article!"

On Jan. 31, The Sun sent a letter to the ERACISM coalition that failed to address any of its demands. Instead it offered free advertising for future events. ERACISM responded with a promise that the struggle is not over.

A campus rally is planned for Feb. 10. ERACISM has received strong support from students and members of the local labor and anti-war community.

FIST stated: "The school administration, the newspaper and the entire city need to understand that this will not be tolerated! Hopefully this action will remind those who need reminding, and teach those who have not learned, that this country was built on the backs of African slave labor and immigrants, that the land was stolen from Indigenous people who inhabited it before the immigrants arrived, and above all that THERE ARE NO BORDERS IN THE WORKERS' STRUGGLE!"

Letters supporting ERACISM's demands to The Sun newspaper and the administration will help in this struggle. Send them to eracismswc@hotmail.net by Feb. 17.

Vela is an organizer of the San Diego FIST chapter.





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41 posted on 02/20/2005 3:45:56 PM PST by occutegirl ("She is too fond of books, and it has turned her brain." ~ Louisa May Alcott)
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To: Montfort

Seconded.

BTTT, too.


42 posted on 02/20/2005 3:55:09 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347306/posts - New gang exploiting our weak border.


43 posted on 02/20/2005 3:58:24 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: FactsMatter
Did you know that MEChA has more political power than Tom Tancredo.

Any immigration reform bill will have to have their approval.

44 posted on 02/20/2005 4:02:54 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: paleocon patriarch

America has five major problems: Muslim terrorist immigrants,black urban terrorists(called criminals),Mexican illegal immigrants,leftist anti-American professors and leftist anti-American journalists.It is that simple. All five have the same solution. Interested in details?


45 posted on 02/20/2005 4:06:39 PM PST by Milwaukeeprophet
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To: occutegirl

Races in Chula Vista:

* Hispanic (49.6%)
* White Non-Hispanic (31.7%)
* Other race (22.1%)
* Filipino (7.3%)
* Two or more races (5.8%)
* Black (4.6%)
* American Indian (1.4%)
* Japanese (1.4%)
* Korean (0.9%)
* Chinese (0.6%)
* Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander (0.6%)

(Total can be greater than 100% because Hispanics could be counted in other races)


46 posted on 02/20/2005 4:13:59 PM PST by ken21 (the terrorists didn't blow up the new york times because the times supports them. /s)
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To: occutegirl
"We feel he crossed the line," said MEChA co-chairwoman Gaby Arenivas.

So she isn't a chairperson? How utterly sexist! I feel MEChA has crossed the line!

47 posted on 02/20/2005 4:14:28 PM PST by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Ben Ficklin
What do you base that on, my fellow Freeper? MEChA is a fringe, and some would argue terrorist, group.
48 posted on 02/20/2005 4:28:00 PM PST by Josef1235 (My blog: http://josef-a-k.blogspot.com)
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To: occutegirl
The coalition launched a campaign that has collected over 700 signatures from students who feel attacked, harassed and let down by Southwestern College, The Sun newspaper and the school administration.

It always puzzles me who these kids who have not worked and payed taxes like the rest of us can make such demands on our society.

A campus rally is planned for Feb. 10.

Feb. 10th ? Gee I missed it.

49 posted on 02/20/2005 4:29:35 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Ben Ficklin

Please tell me which branch of the government they belong to.


50 posted on 02/20/2005 4:31:39 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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