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Schiavo's parents lose appeal
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 2/21/2005 | Maya Bell

Posted on 02/21/2005 10:12:02 AM PST by bjs1779

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To: Bigs from the North

This case is supposedly all about Terri’s rights and what ‘she would have wanted’. Even George Felos and Michael Schiavo base their entire argument that they are only doing what Terri wanted.

What better proof of what Terri really wants than the fact that she is still alive, against all odds, 14 years later! If Terri really wanted to die, she would have, on her own, long ago.


41 posted on 02/21/2005 10:36:42 AM PST by Servant of the Cross ((Father forgive them, they know not what they are doing))
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To: Hildy
As far as I know, Terri has never said she'd rather die. Her "husband" came up with that statement right after he won $1,700,000 to take care of her. Her husband stopping her physical therapy after his money award says a lot about his character too.

I object to state ordered euthanasia by any means of an awake and aware individual.

42 posted on 02/21/2005 10:37:13 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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To: Hildy

Forced Exit....that's what we care about. This isn't a person already dying, this isn't a person being kept alive by a respirator, etc. Since, when she ALLEGEDLY made her remarks about artificial life support, feeding tubes were not considered life support, she should be given the therapy her husband swore he'd provide with the big fat malpractice award. I for one don't hate you, I just don't think her, or her case belong in the end-of-life issues catagory.


43 posted on 02/21/2005 10:37:23 AM PST by Annie03
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To: bjs1779

I'm ashamed of my government.


44 posted on 02/21/2005 10:37:45 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real politcal victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Hildy
Since you do not know me, you cannot make an assumption that I am a hypocrite. The issue is not about dying by starvation. It's about that fact that we should not kill people. Do you suggest that we put a person "out of their misery," to kill someone like you would a dog, by a bullet to the brain or a lethal injection?
45 posted on 02/21/2005 10:38:15 AM PST by wmichgrad ("The man is insane. He has lost his mind" Rush Limbaugh 1/28/05 re: Sen. Kennedy's remarks on Iraq)
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To: Dog Gone
And if the feeding apparatus is removed and she dies, file a wrongful death action against everyone!
46 posted on 02/21/2005 10:38:25 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: bjs1779
Since the excerpt was less than three-hundred words, here is some more of the article:

The Schindlers, however, are expected to ask Pinellas Circuit Judge George W. Greer for a stay to allow them to appeal again to higher courts. If Greer issues that stay, the tube will stay in place.

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Following an avalanche of calls and e-mails to his office, Gov. Jeb Bush pushed through a law that empowered him to step in and order the tube re-inserted. But Terri's Law was struck down as unconstitutional, however, and the Schindlers' options appear to be running out.

But, assisted by right-to-life activists, they promise another public-relations campaign and, given the history of this protracted and gut-wrenching right-to-die case, nobody can say with certainty when - or how - it will end.


47 posted on 02/21/2005 10:39:40 AM PST by CedarDave (Democrats don't speak -- they rant!)
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To: bjs1779

If it were my daughter, they would have to shoot me like a wild dog before they get to her. To hell with the moron judge, the miscreant ex, and any cop who said he was just "doing his job" to pull the food out of her mouth and make her suffer so terribly.


48 posted on 02/21/2005 10:39:45 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......Does anyone see it yet?....)
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To: Admin Moderator

I protest the removal of my post. It was a perfectly reasonable question in response to her awful comment. Maybe you need to delete her comment which suggests a swift and final solution to the 'problem'.


49 posted on 02/21/2005 10:40:40 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Someone needs to charge her with a crime as this may be the only way to save her.

The crime should be attempted murder, and it should be applied to everyone, including members of the judiciary, who have had a hand in this.

50 posted on 02/21/2005 10:41:52 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: bjs1779
This is the sickest way to kill a person. Starving them to death? Refusing all nourishment? This has got to be painful and poor Terri cannot express her pain to anyone. If the courts must kill Terri, then at least they should have the "heart" to inject her with a lethal cocktail...This starvation method is only punishing an innocent person at the very end of a painful and sad life. Simply heartless. My prayers go out to her parents and the rest of her real family.
51 posted on 02/21/2005 10:42:05 AM PST by cwiz24 (I worked very hard on this tagline.)
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To: MizSterious; Hildy; ecurbh

Here's why I'm curious.... The only place I have ever heard about this case is here, where the bias is united against the husband, and everyone keeps getting stunned by judgment after judgment against the parents.

I don't believe this guy could be the devil he is made out to be here. If he were the devil and the parents are the heros, they'd have at least won visitation. The fact that there are so many motions that seem to go the way of Michael and against the parents says to me that the case is not as clear cut as you all here think it is. There IS another side. I don't know what the other side is, because I am on the other side of the country where it isn't reported much, but I'd like to think no judge would bar the parents from even visiting without good reason. If it is so obvious to everyone here that Michael is a murderer and it were so obvious that Terri is capable of being responsive, why has NO ONE argued that successfully in court?


52 posted on 02/21/2005 10:42:22 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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To: bjs1779
Chilling. She was laughing from criminy's sake...LAUGHING. Lets face it, there is a growing number of people who believe that a person's value is based solely on their utility. She can't contribute so kill her. It's disgusting.
53 posted on 02/21/2005 10:43:45 AM PST by ajr276
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To: LYSandra

Many people say that they would not want to live that way and especially young adults. To actually sign a living will which is available to everyone daily, the majority of the people do not do this.

The will to live is ingrained in all of us. Actuallly very few people commit suicide and usually only the elderly sign living will.

Terri has proven she has the will to live for 14 years.


54 posted on 02/21/2005 10:44:59 AM PST by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Your analysis presumes goodwill on the part of the courts that have been involved in this case. That just doesn't exist. These lawyers and judges are on the side of the culture of death.


55 posted on 02/21/2005 10:45:56 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: HairOfTheDog
If it is so obvious to everyone here that Michael is a murderer and it were so obvious that Terri is capable of being responsive, why has NO ONE argued that successfully in court?

Essentially the answer is because one judge has ruled that way, time and time again, and the family can not get past him to get justice. When the other two branches of Florida state government (the Executive and Legislative) take action and are then stopped by the same judicial system that almost gave us Al Gore as president, what does that tell you about this case and especially the Florida courts?

56 posted on 02/21/2005 10:47:15 AM PST by CedarDave (Democrats don't speak -- they rant!)
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To: EternalVigilance

That's the part I don't believe. I can't believe that every judge ever to hear this case is in on some great conspiracy to kill this woman.


57 posted on 02/21/2005 10:48:05 AM PST by HairOfTheDog (It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life!)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Judge won't let the parents in because they want to video tape her to show she is still responsive, that would make the buffoon on the bench look bad. This is a state judiciary that has run amok. If it were all on the husbands side, the Florida Legislature would not have passed a Terri Shiavo bill to save her life.
58 posted on 02/21/2005 10:48:14 AM PST by Time is now (We'll live to see it......Does anyone see it yet?....)
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To: HairOfTheDog

See CedarDave's post number 56.


59 posted on 02/21/2005 10:48:59 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Freedom. Brought to you by the grace of God and the Red, White and Blue...)
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To: HairOfTheDog
If it is so obvious to everyone here that Michael is a murderer and it were so obvious that Terri is capable of being responsive, why has NO ONE argued that successfully in court?

Good question.

From this article:

Michael Schiavo: Loving Husband or Monster?

The main evidence comes from a bone scan taken on March 5, 1991. As Terri’s guardian, Michael Schiavo denied her family access to Terri’s records, the results of which were not made available until November, 2002. This scan indicated numerous broken bones in various stages of healing, including compressions fractures, a broken back, pelvis, ankle, bone bruises and ossifications.

This would be a good article for you to read for info.

60 posted on 02/21/2005 10:49:33 AM PST by DJ MacWoW ("Are you cops? FBI" bad guy, "I'm currently unemployed" Tony Almeida of 24)
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