Posted on 02/21/2005 1:40:51 PM PST by misterrob
Who speaks for us in today's age? It hasn't been Bush or the "Republican" Congress. Where have you gone Ronald Reagan? Have we forgotten what you showed us to be possible?
While I agree with you on the need for much less government, the Liberterians are for open borders and legalized drugs. Sorry but only dopers can really make that a platform in their party.
Very long but very interesting points, also. I like the part about some people may agree with the LP on medicinal marijuana but not on legalizing heroin.
Frankly, there are a large number of people who actually agree with the libertarians but can't seem to vote for them given their lack of party strength. Unless you are a hopeless Democrat, how can you not approve of smaller government, lower taxes, the elimination of SS, the Constitution and the power of the individual.
Bush and the current batch of scumholes in Congress have continued to screw the American tax payer over the past few years. Yes, we got some tax cuts but you cannot increase entitlement, education and other non-defense spending while you are at it.
The Libertarians (IMO) shot themselves in the foot by opposing the War in Iraq. Many of them sounded just like anti-Bush Democrats in their rhetoric on the war, and I think most libertarian/conservatives who are willing to give Libertarian candidates a look didn't care for what they saw last year. I'd have gladly voted for Georgia's Libertarian Senate candidate over Johnny Isakson last year if he hadn't sounded like Teddy Kennedy when it came to Iraq.
Who was for repealing the 18th amendment? Just the drunks? Anyway, we need a new party: libertarianism without the idiocy.
That was a good read.
I agree with many of his points. And lo and behold, here comes someone saying the libertarian party is full of dope smokers. lol
But yes, call them small 'l' libertarians, South Park conservatives, whatever, there is a schism developing in the R party of people who expected less government, not more. Medicare prescription plan anyone? No Child Left Behind? Give me a break.
The libertarians need to look at the big issue of shrinking the government, and not so much at the little issues, such as marijuana legalization etc. The little issues will work themselves out when the big one is working on its own. I mean, look at the clamoring of doing away with the income tax structure, and privitizing social security.
I am worried though that they really shot themselves in the foot with the War in Iraq though. I mean, they almost didn't let Neal Boortz speak at their convention because he agrees with it. They need to make sure they aren't taken over by peace loving hippies.
If the republicans blow it, I will vote all democrat for the sole purpose of hastening the end - puting the US mercifully out of it's misery.
I will then get a can of gas, some matches and a fiddle...
Kewl...was the wackadoo who ran for governor awhile ago there? You know the one who hawked a giant loogie on the radio announcer...
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They have some wierd people there no doubt but look around the republican party and we have a few people sort of out there.
I like reading up on the CATO Institute's stuff. It's very pro-business, small government and for the rights of the individual.
You could make a case that Iraq was not the immediate threat though. Yes, the world is better off without him but one could make the case that bringing down the House Of Saud or going after Pakistan for their harboring of Bin Laden and crew might have made a bigger impact on terrorism. And, Iran and Korea were probably more of a threat to us than Iraq.
Seems on the whole that there are a lot of people out there who don't like us....
screw em
Last time I checked, a few years back, they wanted to get rid of the CIA and standing armed forces. They would blind us and leave us defenseless. Throw in their drug nonsense and that did it for me. They simply aren't responsible enough to consider joining.
Perhaps Iraq didn't pose the threat other nations did/do, but you can also make a case that Iraq was the next step regardless of the threat posed by other nations. That's a big debate, and my mind won't be changed that the Libertarians were wrong on the issue.
I agree with you about the CATO Institute, and clearly the majority of Republicans have lost sight of the limited government platform. Tax cuts aren't enough, but they hold them out there in an effort to quiet their core constituency while expanding pork and entitlement to ensure reelection.
I remain hopeful, but the fight for smaller government seems lost.
This is his most important point. You have to build a constituency at the grass roots level before you can hit the top. In local elections, party affiliation doesn't matter as much, because you can meet voters belly to belly.
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