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Cosmic rays may reveal pre-Aztec tomb secrets
UK Telegraph ^ | 2/21/05 | Nic Fleming

Posted on 02/21/2005 6:26:33 PM PST by wagglebee

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I read the title and thought they were talking about aliens in UFOs.
1 posted on 02/21/2005 6:26:33 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG ping


2 posted on 02/21/2005 6:26:50 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Aliens in Galaxy 500's?
3 posted on 02/21/2005 6:32:39 PM PST by AlbertWang
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Might be a fun science experiment in the Great Pyramid, too.


4 posted on 02/21/2005 6:36:45 PM PST by Graymatter
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Art bell where are you????!! Hahaha


5 posted on 02/21/2005 6:37:04 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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wow!

" the earliest large metropolis".



i'll bet they landed a man or woman on the moon

circa 1000 a.d. (/s)


6 posted on 02/21/2005 6:39:38 PM PST by ken21 (the terrorists didn't blow up the new york times because the times supports them. /s)
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To: wagglebee; Physicist

Every once in awhile I read a post where I understand nothing.


7 posted on 02/21/2005 6:39:50 PM PST by AGreatPer
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Did someone say 'cosmic rays'?

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

8 posted on 02/21/2005 6:43:12 PM PST by mhking (Do not mess with dragons, for thou art crunchy & good with ketchup...)
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They're gonna shoot a cosmic raygun at the pyramid . . . think Buck Rogers.


9 posted on 02/21/2005 6:44:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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That is truly ingenious. It'll be interesting to see if the technique works, and if it can be applied to other digs.
10 posted on 02/21/2005 6:48:17 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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Thank God for Hernan Cortez, who finally stopped the slaughter in human sacrifice the Aztecs had been practicing there for who knows how long.

How many among those pyramids who'd had their still beating hearts torn out?

Oldest "civilization". What a load.

11 posted on 02/21/2005 7:06:17 PM PST by onedoug
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The interaction of cosmic rays with the atmosphere creates a continuous shower of muons - tiny, charged particles that travel dozens of miles in the millionth of a second that they exist.

Hmmm. That would mean that they're travelling at least 129 times the speed of light.

12 posted on 02/21/2005 7:24:40 PM PST by Erasmus (Ferlin Hurley: "I left her behind behind me.")
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Might be a fun science experiment in the Great Pyramid, too.

As a matter of fact, that experiment has been done. The Nobel prizewinner Luis Alvarez developed this cosmic ray technique for the pyramids of Giza.

Alvarez would bristle whenever someone said that he failed to discover any hidden chambers in the Great Pyramid. In truth, he succeeded in proving that there were no hidden chambers in the Great Pyramid.

13 posted on 02/21/2005 7:46:04 PM PST by Physicist
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Hmmm. That would mean that they're travelling at least 129 times the speed of light.

The muons have a half-life of 2.2 microseconds. At the speed of light this would give a range of only 660 m. However, at relativistic speeds, the lifetime of the muon, as we perceive it, is much longer. Given a minimal 2 GeV muon (rest mass = 0.1 GeV):

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14 posted on 02/21/2005 7:54:31 PM PST by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: AGreatPer
Every once in awhile I read a post where I understand nothing.

Think of it as being just like an x-ray of your body. X-rays shine right through you, for the most part, but the denser parts of you stop more of the x-rays. That's why images of your bones show up on the film: they're dense enough to stop most of the x-rays, while your bulging biceps and rippling pectoral muscles are not.

This method doesn't work on a pyramid, because it's too dense to let any of the x-rays through. Muons, however, can do the job, because they can travel through a whole lot of matter before they stop. The denser the matter, though, the more of the muons it will stop. If there's a hollow chamber hidden away somewhere in the structure, more muons will pass through that part of the structure than if it were just solid stone.

Furthermore, muons are constantly raining down on us from the sky, so you don't need to set up a beam like you do with an x-ray machine. If you just wait long enough, you can collect enough muons to make as detailed an exposure as you like.

15 posted on 02/21/2005 7:58:57 PM PST by Physicist
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To: wagglebee
I always wondered what became of the rock band "Aztec Camera".
16 posted on 02/21/2005 8:00:09 PM PST by Physicist
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Good grief! Am I the LAST person to hear about this??!! Thank you, Physicist. I'll go catch up on the subject at once! :)


17 posted on 02/21/2005 8:05:07 PM PST by Graymatter
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There's a description of it in the book Alvarez: Adventures of a Physicist by Luis Alvarez.
18 posted on 02/21/2005 8:07:03 PM PST by Physicist
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You continue to amaze me. You have this way of making things a lot simpler. I guess that is why you were/are a great teacher. Hey, some people have that ability and I admire it.

BTW, I saw your full Bio the other day when you posted to that jerk. Congrats on your new endevors. And, say hello to the family for me.

19 posted on 02/21/2005 8:09:41 PM PST by AGreatPer
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This was tried with thte Great Pyramid in Egypt about 15 years ago, but thte equipment of the day was not up to it and no results were reported.

So9

20 posted on 02/21/2005 8:22:47 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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