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Hillary Clinton's Popularity Up in State, Even Among Republicans
NY Times ^ | 2/22/05 | RAYMOND HERNANDEZ

Posted on 02/21/2005 8:32:45 PM PST by Libloather

Clinton's Popularity Up in State, Even Among Republicans
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
Published: February 22, 2005

Remember Hillary Rodham Clinton and the conventional wisdom about how polarizing a figure she is? Well, think again.

Recent polls have shown that Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, may have turned a corner politically, sharply reducing the number of voters in the state who harbor negative views of her.

Pollsters say the change is remarkable for a woman who has long been shadowed by a seemingly implacable group of voters - commonly referred to as Hillary haters - who dislike her, no matter what she does, and who pose a potential obstacle to any presidential ambitions she may harbor.

A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president, although he said that he would support his party's nominee. She returned the compliment, saying when asked by the program's host, Tim Russert, that Senator McCain would be a good president.

The changing view of Mrs. Clinton coincides with a period following the November election in which she offered a series of speeches filled with references to faith and prayer, while putting less emphasis on polarizing social issues like gay marriage and abortion.

The result of these comments has been an emerging image of Senator Clinton that is far different from the caricature that Republicans have painted of her: that of a secular liberal whose stances are largely at odds with a public that they say is concerned about the nation's moral direction.

Political analysts say the themes Senator Clinton has emphasized - combined with the hard-working image she has sought to project - appear to be causing large numbers of voters to re-evaluate her in New York, although not nationally, where the number of people who disapprove of her is still high. In a Marist poll last fall, roughly 4 in 10 Americans had negative views of her.

Her progress appealing to once skeptical New Yorkers was illuminated by a New York Times poll released last week that showed that 21 percent of New Yorkers had an unfavorable opinion of how she is handling her job, down significantly from the 29 percent of voters who expressed similar sentiments in October 2002.

(In two recent back-to-back surveys, pollsters for Quinnipiac University, in Hamden, Conn., also found a notable decline in the number of New York voters who expressed a negative view of Mrs. Clinton.)

At the same time, Senator Clinton's job approval rating has increased to 69 percent from 58 percent in October 2002, according to the Times poll. That is higher even than the 63 percent approval rating of Charles E. Schumer, the senior senator from New York who was re-elected last year to a second term with a record 71 percent of the vote and who is known for his attention to upstate concerns.

The new attitudes toward Mrs. Clinton may be forcing Republicans to reconsider how to deal with an opponent they had until now viewed as an enticing target because of the depth of negative feelings she inspires among large numbers of New York voters.

Independent political analysts say her strong standing may give pause to any big-name Republican thinking about challenging her in 2006, chief among them Rudolph W. Giuliani and Gov. George E. Pataki. In fact, a Quinnipiac poll released earlier this month found that Mrs. Clinton would defeat both Mr. Pataki and Mr. Giuliani in head-to-head contests.

"There isn't a long line of opponents forming to take her on in 2006," said Lee M. Miringoff, the director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in Poughkeepsie, N.Y.

But New York Republican leaders say that they are eager to challenge Senator Clinton, especially since Republicans from around the country will almost certainly provide plenty of money and other campaign support to defeat her, as they did in 2000.

New York Republicans also say that the senator has had a free ride so far and that her opponent in the campaign will have an easy time driving up her negative ratings - and halting her rise in the polls - by pointing out what they describe as her poor record of accomplishment and her liberal ideology.


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Mrs. Clinton, the junior senator from New York, may have turned a corner politically...

They can spray another layer of Pledge on that turd, but...

1 posted on 02/21/2005 8:32:52 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

LOL! The Slimes wishes it so....


2 posted on 02/21/2005 8:34:29 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Libloather

NY TIMES!!


3 posted on 02/21/2005 8:34:35 PM PST by Barnyard
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To: Libloather

Seeing as how this is from the NYT - I'd give it a credibility rating of ZERO!


4 posted on 02/21/2005 8:38:56 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: Libloather; DCPatriot; Barnyard
I'll keep saying it.

A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house. She's becoming a hawk and getting tough on immigration. If she makes a phony promise to put the military on the border, I think she'll win in '08.
5 posted on 02/21/2005 8:39:16 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Libloather
The changing view of Mrs. Clinton coincides with a period following the November election in which she offered a series of speeches filled with references to faith and prayer, while putting less emphasis on polarizing social issues like gay marriage and abortion.

Well, this just proves how stupid the Sheeple are.

"Hmmm. She's changing what she's saying. Maybe she'll use her evil powers for Good now. Hand me that ballot again, dear."

Sigh.

6 posted on 02/21/2005 8:39:37 PM PST by Egon (Government is a guard-dog to be fed, not a cow to be milked.)
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To: Libloather

This story has Hillary's hoofprints all over it.


7 posted on 02/21/2005 8:39:55 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Vision
She couldn't win a cookie bake-off at the New York Erie County Fair...let alone the Presidency of the US.

Argentina perhaps.

8 posted on 02/21/2005 8:41:55 PM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: Libloather

Be careful, very careful of what you read in the NYT. It is not known for its accuracy.


9 posted on 02/21/2005 8:42:01 PM PST by Winston7000 (Near Chicago)
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To: Libloather
Spread this image around. It shows her true colors.


10 posted on 02/21/2005 8:42:15 PM PST by SlowBoat407 (Aaaarrgghhh)
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To: CyberAnt

Its a push-piece. Readers will view Hillary as more moderate b/c the NYT says she is. This is a typical MO of the Clinton Gang. Expect to see many more such charades.

By 2008, 51% of America will think Hillary sits to the right of Colin Powell. We've got a ton of work to do before then.


11 posted on 02/21/2005 8:42:34 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Libloather

If they like the Hilderbest ... the're not Republicans


12 posted on 02/21/2005 8:43:00 PM PST by clamper1797 (This Vietnam Vet ain't Fonda Kerry)
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To: Vision
A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house

People discount this woman at their peril. There's nothing she won't do to regain the White House.

13 posted on 02/21/2005 8:43:12 PM PST by skip_intro
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To: Libloather
Remember Hillary Rodham Clinton and the conventional wisdom about how polarizing a figure she is?

Conventional wisdom??? How about...uh...reality??? Common sense even???

14 posted on 02/21/2005 8:43:38 PM PST by andie74 (Well, will you do me a favor then? Can you bring me my chapstick?)
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To: Vision
I think she'll win in '08.

By deliberately ditching the Hispanic vote? Not that way.

15 posted on 02/21/2005 8:44:27 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Libloather

God help us!


16 posted on 02/21/2005 8:44:33 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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To: Libloather

WHAT a bunch of HORSECRAP!!


17 posted on 02/21/2005 8:44:44 PM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: DCPatriot

I think you're overconfident. When a liberal demonrat can get tougher then a Republican, we've got serious party issues.


18 posted on 02/21/2005 8:45:03 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Libloather

"A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president, although he said that he would support his party's nominee. She returned the compliment..."

@ss licks butt and, in turn, butt kisses @ss. Why would the clymers at the NYT think it would be any different?


20 posted on 02/21/2005 8:46:31 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (What if they had to hold a bake sale to pay for the salaries at NPR?)
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To: Gunslingr3
By getting some of the rightfully fed up conservative vote, she won't need any hispanics.

BTW, I don't think all hispanics want illegal immigration
21 posted on 02/21/2005 8:47:21 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: Libloather

Think back to John (the French Looking One) Kerry back in March,2004. He had a free ride from the liberal media(a redundantcy), he had a low negative number, high positives, and then the Bush team went to work to define him, and the whole picture changed.

Analyzing and polling H. R.Clinton's chances for 2008 right now is so premature and futile, it makes as much sense as analyzing the election in Iran, which will probably take place before then.

Vince Foster's mistress could have a 0 negative rating and it wouldn't matter, until her opponents begin to define her
as the power-hungry political beast she really is.


22 posted on 02/21/2005 8:48:13 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: Libloather

I'll tell ya'll what made me sick tonight---

I made the mistake of watching Joe Scarborough---at the very end of his show, he showed exerpts of Hillary's interview on MTP yesterday morning---after that, they had a picture of her in the upper right corner of the screen with the words "Hillary Watch" above her head and a "clock" with 1,300 and something days until 2008 on it, and Joe said that everyday they would let US know what Hillary is doing in her quest for the White HOuse---

Now, I thought the MSM went WAY overboard in propping up Kerry, but this is ridiculous---every single night they are gonna give Hillary FREE tv time to her campaign---she hasn't even officially declared herself a candidate for Senator yet, let alone President!!!

Of course the rest of Joe's show before the big unveiling of the Hillary Watch cam was about the Bush tapes and whether Bush set this up with Doug Wead---blech------


23 posted on 02/21/2005 8:48:27 PM PST by Txsleuth (Call be anything...just don't call me a fringe poster)
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To: dahicks

You might say that about McCain as well.


24 posted on 02/21/2005 8:49:21 PM PST by Lombardo
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To: Libloather

Let the NY Times dress this pig up for the slaughter.


25 posted on 02/21/2005 8:50:12 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Libloather

New York Republicans that voted for Bloomberg? LOL

Oh, I know there are SOME real Republicans in N.Y. but most would be considered Liberals in any other state.

Nice try N.Y.T.'s but McCain and N.Y. Republicans are not a good litmus test and you know it.


26 posted on 02/21/2005 8:50:41 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: RoseofTexas

Horse patootie is cheaper by the railcar, yaknow.

NYT sure loaded up this one, tho.


27 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:07 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Libloather

Just get used to it. Hillary has learned to be an effective and supple politician. She's come a long way baby.


28 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:17 PM PST by Torie
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To: Zivasmate
[Kerry] had a free ride from the liberal... he had a low negative number, high positives, and then the Bush team went to work to define him, and the whole picture changed.

Thats not the way I saw it. We had a war-time President up against Kerry's incompetent campaign and we won by a mere 120k in Ohio. If not for the Swifties and Rathergate...

29 posted on 02/21/2005 8:54:59 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Barnyard

NEW YORK


I'm sure folks in liberal places like New York (who elected two liberal Senators) and California would like her.

But keep in mind, even in those states, there are a ton of folks that hate her.

Which means out in the Nation, where liberals are less and even some Dems tend to get it.........they won't have a high view of her.


30 posted on 02/21/2005 8:55:58 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: NYC GOP Chick; TheGrimReaper

FCOL ping.


31 posted on 02/21/2005 8:57:04 PM PST by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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To: Fenris6
Its a push-piece. Readers will view Hillary as more moderate b/c the NYT says she is. This is a typical MO of the Clinton Gang. Expect to see many more such charades.
By 2008, 51% of America will think Hillary sits to the right of Colin Powell. We've got a ton of work to do before then.


Exactly. Ignore Dean. Support W. Fight Hillary.
32 posted on 02/21/2005 8:59:19 PM PST by caveat emptor
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To: Torie

She's going to get trounced. She has evil written all over her face. Donate big !


33 posted on 02/21/2005 9:00:24 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Txsleuth

"Every single night they are gonna give Hillary FREE tv time to her campaign---she hasn't even officially declared herself a candidate for Senator yet, let alone President"

That's how she is getting these high approval numbers. You should see the incredibly positive coverage the local NY media (NY Post is the exception) gives her. According to them, she's fighting for veterans, fighting for anti-terrorism funding, finding "common ground" on abortion, fighting quality-of-life problems related to immigration.

Mark my words.. the NY GOP can barely hold it together for the governor's race, and they have little prospect of fielding any serious challenger for her Senate seat. She has a clear shot at the Democratic nomination in 2008.

And Hillary knows how to count. She sees loony left field is crowded (with anti-Patriot-Act Sen. Feingold, anti-military Dean, a confused John Kerry, and perhaps vote conspiracy Barbara Boxer), so she's gonna play right field. And that will only benefit her in the general election.

I agree with other posters.. don't underestimate this woman.


34 posted on 02/21/2005 9:00:45 PM PST by nj26
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To: dahicks

The Republicans in New York are the ones that helped elect Bloomberg as mayor---he is NOT a Republican!!!


35 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:11 PM PST by Txsleuth (Call be anything...just don't call me a fringe poster)
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


36 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:18 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Vision

Hillary's bid may not work, but it has been in the works a long time, and her positioning is being crafted and re-crafted virtually every day. It is illusion, of course, that is being created by the NYT---if the writer is persuasive enough, who has the wherewithal to marshal enough facts to refute him? So we are left with a self-fulfulling prophesy, MAYBE. The claim that she has Republican support is something I have no trouble believing .Most of them are RINOs and they'd be willing to give someone like Hillary a wide berth as she goes about proving to the voting public that she's a DINO. Whoever is best as the game as far as they're concerned is the one who deserves to win.


37 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:28 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: Libloather

This goes to show that Long Island and Up-state NY are full of RINOs, who think its 'cool' to have a celebrity as their Senator.

This is just a taste of things to come from the media. Just wait; the terms "moderate" and "centrist" will be applied by the mainstream media to Hillary more times in the next 4 yrs than it has been to all other people who ever lived, combined!

By the time they are through, Webster will have added "Hillary Clinton" as one of its definitions for a moderate or centrist.


38 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:32 PM PST by Aetius
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To: Libloather

A measure of how far Senator Clinton has come was on display Sunday when Senator John McCain, Republican from Arizona, said on "Meet the Press" that he thought Mrs. Clinton, a Democrat, would make a good president

John McCain, now that's a real testimony to the heartbeat of the Republican party. He doesn't even rate RINO status.
I can see it now, Clinton/McCain 08.


39 posted on 02/21/2005 9:02:52 PM PST by conshack
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To: nj26
I agree with other posters.. don't underestimate this woman.

...or we will be banging our heads against the Clinton Machine for another 8 years.

40 posted on 02/21/2005 9:03:44 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

Time causes to forget. Last March the French Looking One was riding high, and had low negatives. Additionally, Bush was under daily attack from the Demorats, but the Bush team did not begin to respond till around April.

When the Bush team put on its first media blitz, it immediately drove up Kerry's negatives. Bush would have won in a landslide if it weren't for his awful performance in the first debate.

The Clinton strategy, given where we are in the political cycle is utterly irrelevant, except that it confirms what a false and deceptive power-hungry political slut she is.


41 posted on 02/21/2005 9:03:48 PM PST by Zivasmate (" A wise man's heart inclines him to his right, but a fool's heart to his left." - Ecclesiastes 10)
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To: Txsleuth; All
MSNBC, the New Clinton News Network?(Rick Kaplan)

"It’s easy to anticipate that Republican Joe Scarborough will soon be either purged or gelded. Gelding would take the form of Kaplan requiring that every conservative guest and statement on MSNBC’s “Scarborough Country” be “balanced” with a Leftist guest or statement. At best this will dilute the show and destroy its savor and ability to balance Matthews. At worst it will goad Scarborough to turn his attention to relatively apolitical topics like the Michael Jackson scandals."

"If this comes to pass, then Joe Scarborough will likely remain on the air until the day following the November election, when a loyalist of the Hillary 2008 campaign will replace him. That’s trickle-down politics. That’s Rick “Capo” Kaplan, reportedly the new boss of a now-dying private network that once held much promise, MSNBC."

42 posted on 02/21/2005 9:04:46 PM PST by Conservative Firster
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To: willyboyishere

The GOP turnout is going to be hugh against the witch, they will raise more money than they ever raised if the pig runs.


43 posted on 02/21/2005 9:05:23 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: willyboyishere
Look, this country should have had immigration reform 30 years ago. The first candidate to only promise to get real about this will win the next election IMO.
44 posted on 02/21/2005 9:06:01 PM PST by Vision (The New York Times...All the news to fit a one world government)
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To: ntnychik; devolve; MeekOneGOP; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo

Hillary getting popular??


45 posted on 02/21/2005 9:06:03 PM PST by potlatch (Always remember you're unique. Just like everyone else.)
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To: Libloather

I have been saying it all along.


46 posted on 02/21/2005 9:06:47 PM PST by doug from upland (Ray Charles --- a great musician and safer driver than Ted Kennedy)
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To: Vision
A perfect storm is brewing that could put the Hildabeast into the white house.

As I've said before, Hillary has a relatively good chance of becoming President and a better chance than any other person now alive.

The February 15th issue of the Wall Street Journal Political Diary had an interesting speculation:

What Sen. Clinton needs is what New York Gov. George Pataki never seemed to get. To earn a larger leadership position, a politician needs to cement a reputation by doing at least one big thing that command national attention and applause. Rudy Giuliani did it by solving New York City's crime problem. Ronald Reagan cemented his conservative leadership status by delivering a hard-hitting prime time speech endorsing Barry Goldwater. If Gov. Pataki had killed rent control in New York City, he'd be the darling of the right. Gov. Bredesen is killing TennCare, his state's failing and unaffordable program of health care subsidies for thousands of able-bodied adults -- and earning national attention as an effective manager not bogged down by liberal shibboleths.

Sen. Clinton could be her party's great middle hope if she would reach across the aisle now. If she helped make Social Security private accounts possible, she'd get almost as much credit as President Bush -- and begin to erase her lingering image as a left-wing reactionary to voters in much of the country. That would go a long way towards driving down her negatives nationally and cementing her reputation as being the person who can bring electoral victory.

Hillary Clinton is a smart politician -- much smarter than Gore or Kerry. I wouldn't be at all surprised if she pulled off something such as the above. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if we soon had another 4 or 8 years of a Clinton White House.
47 posted on 02/21/2005 9:07:20 PM PST by dpwiener
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

48 posted on 02/21/2005 9:07:30 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: Vision

What do you think they are talking about right now with immigration ? Buy a clue.


49 posted on 02/21/2005 9:08:04 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Libloather
How does she manage to fit her broomstick inside her purse?
50 posted on 02/21/2005 9:08:39 PM PST by Conservatrix (He who stands for nothing will fall for anything.)
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