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The Philippines Should Become The 51st State
www.useless-knowledge.com ^ | Jan. 31, 2005 | Alan Srout

Posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:32 AM PST by freepatriot32

The Republic of the Philippines is an archipeligo of over 7,100 islands located north of Malaysia, Australia and Indonesia in the Pacific Ocean and south of Taiwan. The Philippine Islands became a Spanish colony during the 16th century; they were ceded to the US in 1898 following the Spanish- American War. In 1935 the Philippines became a self-governing commonwealth. Manuel QUEZON was elected President and was tasked with preparing the country for independence after a 10-year transition. In 1942 the islands fell under Japanese occupation during WWII, and US forces and Filipinos fought together during 1944-45 to regain control. On 4 July 1946 the Philippines attained their independence. The 21-year rule of Ferdinand MARCOS ended in 1986, when a widespread popular rebellion forced him into exile and installed Corazon AQUINO as president. Her presidency was hampered by several coup attempts, which prevented a return to full political stability and economic development. Fidel RAMOS was elected president in 1992 and his administration was marked by greater stability and progress on economic reforms. In 1992, the US closed its last military bases on the islands. Joseph ESTRADA was elected president in 1998, but was succeeded by his vice-president, Gloria MACAPAGAL-ARROYO, in January 2001 after Estrada's stormy impeachment trial on corruption charges broke down and widespread demonstrations led to his ouster. MACAPAGAL-ARROYO was elected to a six- year term in May 2004. The Philippine Government faces threats from both Muslim separatist groups and communist insurgents. In area it is slightly larger than Arizona. Population 86,241,697 (July 2004 est.)

Age structure: 0-14 years: 35.8% (male 15,758,255; female 15,152,291) 15-64 years: 60.2% (male 25,847,345; female 26,096,211) 65 years and over: 3.9% (male 1,473,873; female 1,913,722) (2004 est.) Median age: total: 22.1 years male: 21.6 years female: 22.6 years (2004 est.) Population growth rate: 1.88% (2004 est.)

Stats from CIA Factbook 2004.

There are many reasons for my proposal to make the Republic of the Philippines the 51st (and possibly 52nd and 53rd states, see North and South Carolina, the Dakotas, West Virginia, etc..) of the United States of America. I will list them in order and expand on them as I go along. Firstly, we have longstanding ties with the Philippine people. The Philippines was an American territory and commonwealth until they achieved their independence after WWII. English has been spoken in the Philippines since 1762, and the Philippines is the third largest English- speaking nation in the world, after the USA and United Kingdom.

Secondly, the people of the Philippines, known as Filipinos, for the most part admire, respect and emulate the United States, especially for its rule of law, fair elections, civil rights, industriousness, sense of fair play, and economic vitality. Many in the Philippines feel that becoming a U.S. state would be preferable to the rampant cronyism, corruption, bribe-taking and favoritism displayed by many of their current leadership and poverty that pervades many of the islands. Thirdly, becoming a state(or states) of the U.S. would enable Filipinos to travel freely within the U.S., opening up new vistas of opportunity for many(such as the hundreds of thousands of well-trained Filipino nurses, doctors and other medical technicians, of which there is a shortage in the U.S.), and would encourage both foreign and U.S. investment in the new state(s), as stabilization would occur. One great benefit for current citizens of the United States would be 80 million new taxpayers and contributors into the Social Security system. The Philippines has a great number of underemployed and unemployed, yet highly intelligent and educated young adults, who, with adequate investment, could turn the Philippines into the "Silicon Valley" of Asia, enriching the whole United States all the more. Small business loans, which are almost impossible to get now in the Philippines, or come with "loan shark" type interest rates, would be much easier to find, causing a boom in these small businesses, and hence employment, in the islands.

I believe the Philippines should be admitted as three separate states, based on culture and geography, so as not to overwhelm the U.S. Congress with a sudden influx of 140 representatives in the House of Representatives from one state. Each state, would of course, also have two senators.

The United States will also greatly benefit in having the Philippines a state of the U.S. because of the rich natural resources which could potentially be developed with modern technologies. Also, the U.S. would again have bases close to communist China and other trouble spots, from which to contain any potential enemies, and some of the people of the new state(s) would gain employment at these military installations and in catering to the personnel assigned there. On that note, Filipinos would be able to join the U.S. military directly, with no hassle, and gain the benefits and training that accrue to those who serve. The Philippines already has the only U.S. Veterans Affairs medical facility outside the U.S., and that could be expanded upon. There are many other benefits that make this an ideal proposal, and I welcome your comments and suggestions, especially those from people in the Philippines or of Philippine descent.

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About the author: Mr. Srout is a veteran of the US Army (MOS 96B20-Intelligence Analyst) and is a keen student of the War Between The States. He is currently helping his friend Dave Brown market his book "Cooking For Cavemen"

Email: wvrebelyell@yahoo.com


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so what do you freepers out there think? yes,no, or undecided ?
1 posted on 02/23/2005 12:50:33 AM PST by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32

I will never happen. I've been to the Philippines about 10 times since l967. The Filipino people are very proud, nationalistic people. They did not even want our military bases there; so we pulled out and closed Subic Naval Station and Clark Air Base (the largest Air Force Base in the world).

While I wouldn't mind it at all, don't hold your breath. The biggest drawback is the great amount of poverty there. I don't think the U.S. taxpayer oculd afford that big of a welfare bill. After all, we've got to support all of the United Nations Member Nations who hate our guts.


2 posted on 02/23/2005 12:55:35 AM PST by no dems
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To: freepatriot32
so what do you freepers out there think? yes,no, or undecided ?

The complications involved in uniformly placing 51 stars on the flag would make this scenario unsuitable. ; )

3 posted on 02/23/2005 12:56:30 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: freepatriot32
Not yet. The Islamo-fascist and NeoComm extremists in the outer islands need to be wiped out first. The last thing we need is for them to be afforded all the legal trimmings of our system so they can lawyer-up and get off the hook for their crimes.

Frankly, I think the Philippinos are too proud anyway.

4 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:10 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: freepatriot32

No way! They don't want it. They even ended US Naval bases
there.


5 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:26 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: freepatriot32
Well, it seems that the Philippines didn't want out military there. The volcano eruption made pullout from the Philippines an easy option.

I believe the Philippines should be admitted as three separate states, based on culture and geography, so as not to overwhelm the U.S. Congress with a sudden influx of 140 representatives in the House of Representatives from one state. Each state, would of course, also have two senators.

I am not willing to give the Philippines 6 senators and so many reps, either. Talk about a power block.

What about the Muslim/terrorist issues?

I vote, nay.

6 posted on 02/23/2005 12:57:39 AM PST by Ruth A.
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To: freepatriot32

Not going to happen.

The Phillipines are a free and independent Nation. In order to become a state, the Filipino people have to petition the US Congress to admit them as a state. I just don't really see this as a possibility

The US protectorates of Guam, Samoa, and Puerto Rico are far more likely to become the 51st - 53rd states.

FWIW, I see Canada and Mexico becoming US states before the Phillipines does.


7 posted on 02/23/2005 12:59:55 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: freepatriot32

I'm fairly certain that abortion is illegal in the Phillipines.

I would not bring Roe vs. Wade there.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 1:01:01 AM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: Ruth A.

Yeah, if the philippinos got 6 senators Texas would have to divvy itself up to keep up and nobody wants that!


9 posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:18 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: freepatriot32

No to the turd world!


10 posted on 02/23/2005 1:03:39 AM PST by RIGHT IN LAS VEGAS
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To: freepatriot32

What percent Muslim? What percent Christian?


11 posted on 02/23/2005 1:04:21 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: freepatriot32
The United States will also greatly benefit in having the Philippines a state of the U.S. because of the rich natural resources which could potentially be developed with modern technologies.

Yea, right.

Also, the U.S. would again have bases close to communist China and other trouble spots, from which to contain any potential enemies, and some of the people of the new state(s) would gain employment at these military installations and in catering to the personnel assigned there.

Great speculation for one living in the '30's, however the mobility and swiftness of our military today renders this concern a moot one.

12 posted on 02/23/2005 1:04:39 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: DannyTN
im not 100 percent sure but i think its 95 percent Christian(mostly Catholic Christian) and 1 percent Buddhist and 4 percent muslim
13 posted on 02/23/2005 1:11:09 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: freepatriot32
Get rid of Castro and allow the Cuban exile community to go back there. That's your 51st state.

Also Western Canada.

14 posted on 02/23/2005 1:11:24 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel ("Senator, we can have this discussion in any way that you would like.")
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To: DannyTN

The Philippines is the ONLY Christian nation in Southeast Asia; all of Asia for that matter. It is predominantly Catholic but there is a HUGE Charismatic movement there. The Muslims are definitely in the minority.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 1:12:15 AM PST by no dems
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To: DannyTN; freepatriot32
From the CIA World Factbook:
Religions:
Definition Field Listing
Roman Catholic 83%, Protestant 9%, Muslim 5%, Buddhist and other 3%

16 posted on 02/23/2005 1:14:26 AM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: EGPWS
The complications involved in uniformly placing 51 stars on the flag would make this scenario unsuitable

I was just talking about this the other day with one of my friends when the prospect of Puerto Rico statehood came up.My idea for the 51st state (whatever it will be )would be keep the original 50 stars on the flag but make the 51st star be formed by the 50 so in other words when you see the flag you would see one big star in the blue field but when you look closer you see 50 stars and the giant star would represent Puerto Rico and the 50 small stars would represent all the other states

17 posted on 02/23/2005 1:16:33 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Annie03; AntiBurr; Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; dAnconia; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here. ok technically not a libertarian issue but i am curious to know what the members of the libertarian ping list think about this idea ?
18 posted on 02/23/2005 1:27:18 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: freepatriot32

I think that it is a profoundly unconservative notion.

Conservatism is founded upon the communities in which we live, foremost among these are the family and the nation (truly the twin bases of society). America is a fine nation, so too are the Philippines, so too Australia, and so too (dare I say) my own beloved England.

A true conservatism loves and admires one's own country, but also admires and respects the good aspects of other countries; and should never seek to absorb them.


19 posted on 02/23/2005 1:34:21 AM PST by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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To: freepatriot32
I'm presently in the southern Philippines on the island of Mindanao. There is a hot little guerilla war presently being waged here and in regions to the south. Casualties on both sides are high.

There are also several well entrenched terror groups living in the jungles. There is also piracy, political corruption on a grand scale, kidnappings, drugs, and poor people who would make the poor in the US appear to be rich. This area would not be well suited as part of the US. In all reality, it would make the feds go crazy in the attempt to bring the area up to a US standard. If you think the southern US border is porous, you should see this one!

The URL below is the recent DoS travel advisory for the Philippines

http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/pa/pa_1156.html

20 posted on 02/23/2005 1:36:40 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: freepatriot32

this is one of the stupidest "51st state" ideas i've ever heard, reminds me of people who want to make new zealand an australian state (ugh).


21 posted on 02/23/2005 1:39:50 AM PST by music is math
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To: tjwmason

Thank you for your post, and your inadvertent but appreciated re-affirmation of my pride in the nation I was born and raised in.

Despite the efforts of the socialists/communists/new-world-orderists, we Canadian conservatives think that we ARE starting to turn the tide. Only our next two federal elections will tell, but there IS some progress being made.


22 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:49 AM PST by Don W (The most inhospitable places for free inquiry today are the universities.)
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To: Sarajevo

yeah I know all about the problems in the Philippines.My fiance is living in illigan city and im planning on going there this year to get married if I can come up with enough money. (I hope this year she is starting to get ticked off its been 5 years and I still havent managedto make it there yet. )But luckily thats pretty far north away from the hot spots.The only thing I would really haveto worry about up there is the branches of the pentegon kidnapping gang and the other main kidnapping for profit gang whos name escapes me at the moment.But I heard from reliable sources that i can grease the right palms and get a gun permit pretty much instantly.So I should be alright for the month or two that I will be up there.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 1:53:46 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: freepatriot32

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism/international/abu_sayyaf.html
The Abu Sayyaf, one of 29 terrorist organizations on the State Department's watchlist, is a militant Islamic group based primarily in the southern Philippine islands of Basilan, Sulu and Tawi-Tawi.
http://www.ict.org.il/inter_ter/orgdet.cfm?orgid=3


24 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:26 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: freepatriot32

No


25 posted on 02/23/2005 2:04:17 AM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: freepatriot32

Our problem is too many states, not too few.


26 posted on 02/23/2005 2:09:56 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: freepatriot32; sure_fine

No. For all the preceeding reasons.


27 posted on 02/23/2005 2:11:43 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: freepatriot32

No.

I want western Canada, Greenland, Antarctica and Siberia.
That would be cool :-)


28 posted on 02/23/2005 2:17:26 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

The big drawback to this is that the Fillipinos do not want to be a state of our country. The chance to make that happen was before 1933 and they turned it down then and opted for independence. They are a proud nation and it is highly doubtful they would vote to become a state.


29 posted on 02/23/2005 2:37:18 AM PST by calex59
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To: Ruth A.
What about the Muslim/terrorist issues?

That was my first thought. The Philippines? Why would we want it? What a mess.

30 posted on 02/23/2005 2:39:47 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: freepatriot32; 7.62 x 51mm

HELL NO!!.... got enough muslim problems as it is


31 posted on 02/23/2005 2:43:38 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: freepatriot32

Mabuhay! This is an interesting idea. I'm trying to figure out how it benefits the U.S., though.


32 posted on 02/23/2005 2:49:47 AM PST by gcraig
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To: Wormwood
Our problem is too many states, not too few.

How about a trade? They can have (parts of) California.

San Francisco for Boracay. We'll keep Yosemite, and they can keep Manila.

33 posted on 02/23/2005 2:55:20 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: freepatriot32

<< ... the Philippines is ...located north of Malaysia, Australia and Indonesia in the Pacific Ocean ... >>

Indonesia and Malaysia last time I flew back and forth among them all several thousand times for a living were nowhere near the Pacific Ocean and were essentially West of the Philippines.

And last time I checked, also, [And this despite that it's easy to harbor serious doubts about the left coast, most of the East and Hawaii] every American State was [And likely, whaddyah reckon, as a prerequisite to Statehood?] ... um ... American.

And the Philippines was .... um .... foreign.


34 posted on 02/23/2005 3:11:33 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: freepatriot32

The best reason I know of to say no to statehood for the Philipines, leaving aside all issues of economics, ethnicity and religion, is simply distance. The Philipines are simply to far away.


35 posted on 02/23/2005 3:21:31 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: freepatriot32

The Filipinos who want statehood only want it for what it will bring them. What they would bring the U.S. is a heap of trouble. Forget it, unless we can buy the territory without the Filipinos.


36 posted on 02/23/2005 4:10:31 AM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: freepatriot32

I am in favor of it. I am in favor of any state or country joining the United States or leaving the United States by the will of their people. This would spread freedom and democracy across the globe, but would require a return to a true Republic. Somethign like:

http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm

It would require a return to a Republic because poorer states might join just for our Welfare benefits. This needs to be eliminated.


37 posted on 02/23/2005 4:15:27 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/tsunami_tyranny.htm)
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To: traviskicks

140 new rats in congress and 6 more rat senators? No thanks.
Don't think so? As soon as this was close to happening the rats would be out there explaining how they could vote themselves a piece of the pie not by working but by voting straight rat. It would be Hawaii times 28!


38 posted on 02/23/2005 5:05:27 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (In dealing with liberals remember When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and he loves it.)
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To: freepatriot32
For what! That place is a RAT hole. Who would want it. The people there may emulate us but they don't respect or like us. Remember the whole thing about our bases there. They couldn't wait to kick us out but then pined over the lose of all that U.S. money that would be leaving with our forces. And let's not forget that scavengers descended on those abandoned bases and stole everything that wasn't nailed to the floor. Let them wallow in poverty. They can prosper using their own resources just like everyone else. U.S. adoption would only mean 80 million more welfare cases and unappreciative mouths to feed. Thanks but no thanks. IMHO.
39 posted on 02/23/2005 5:12:00 AM PST by CONGHUNTER
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To: freepatriot32
If we're going to play Adopt-a-Nation, I would like the powers-that-be to consider Monaco.....no welfare to speak of, sunny, nice marinas, an operetta-like monarchy and a great income-producing casino.

I mean, why shop around for third and fourth world orphans when there's better to be had?

Leni

40 posted on 02/23/2005 5:18:45 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: freepatriot32

Only if Alberta joins the US...to maintain the Rep's control of the Senate!


41 posted on 02/23/2005 5:23:28 AM PST by mdmathis6 (By playing the Devil's advocate, one can often separate self from the Devil!)
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To: freepatriot32

After "300 years in a convent and 50 years in Hollywood," I can't imagine why the people of the Philippines would want to have anything to do with the idiotic circus we like to call Washington D.C.


42 posted on 02/23/2005 5:59:21 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: freepatriot32

No more states. We still have to figure out how to give Puerto Rico back to Spain and Massachusetts back to England. ;)


43 posted on 02/23/2005 6:03:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: freepatriot32

Screw it, let's go for 72 stars. A nice, even 9x8. We get 2 with Puerto Rico and the Phillipines. It should be no problem coming up with 20 more from Canada, Mexico and some Caribbean islands.


44 posted on 02/23/2005 6:35:39 AM PST by BJClinton (What's the difference between the Super Bowl and the Grammy's? The Eagles have won a Grammy)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Massachusetts back to England

Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please no.

Kick it into the sea, flatten the whole of Boston, turn it into a massive internment camp, I really don't care, but please don't make us have it back.
46 posted on 02/23/2005 7:15:16 AM PST by tjwmason (For he himself has said, and it's greatly to his credit, he remains an Englishman.)
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To: freepatriot32

This will happen right after Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, and Viet Nam become states. I have spent a lot of time in the Philippines and love the Filipino people. I once ran for Mayor of Subic City. The Filipinos will never vote for statehood.


47 posted on 02/23/2005 9:13:34 AM PST by ORECON (Condi Rice/Donald Rumsfield - 2008)
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To: freepatriot32

Predominantly Roman Catholic.


48 posted on 09/26/2010 11:31:01 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: freepatriot32

“...the Philippines should be admitted as three separate states...”

Make it seven. At least 0’Dumbo will have been right once, assuming he’s been there.


49 posted on 09/26/2010 11:47:11 AM PDT by beelzepug ("Don't be a wise a**.")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

NOTHING BUT EVEN MORE RAT VOTERS!!!


50 posted on 09/26/2010 11:50:03 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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