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And The Winners Are, Victoria Toensing and Bruce Sanford...
Feb 23, 2005 | Doctor Raoul

Posted on 02/23/2005 5:43:48 AM PST by Doctor Raoul

Back in October of 2003, I offered a $100 RuthsChris Steakhouse gift certificate to the first journalist who would tell the public whether Val Plame was or was not a "Covert Agent" according to the law in question.

YO' MEDIA, FREE MEAL OFFER: Is Joe Wilson's Wife a "Covert Agent" Under That Law?

abner and jimfree added $100 each, bringing the bounty to $300.

It went up 10/5/03 and after almost EIGHT months, I recided the offer on 5/31/04 due to lack of response, even though we had faxed the offer to numerous Washington newsrooms and bureaus.

By that time, I figured either the prosecutor or a non-journalist would answer the question first and we'd be paying out for stenography, not investigative journalism.

Though the offer has expired, the DC Chapter of FreeRepublic.com is mailing Bruce and Victoria each a $25 Gift Card to TGI Fridays for their Washington Post op-ed which answered the question. TGI Friday's is located at Reagan National Airport so we hope to make their next airport delay a little more pleasant.

Funny how the Washington Post had to rely on NewsMax to get the word out.

Perhaps these two could start a class action lawsuit against Joe Wilson, the DNC and the liberal media to recover the costs of an unwarranted investigation, or at least have Joe Wilson "frog marched out of Foxhall for fibbing".

In the words of Dennis The Menace, "Jeepers Mister Wilson, you lied."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: brucesanford; cialeak; dcchapter; joewilson; josephwilson; toensing; valerieplame; valplame

1 posted on 02/23/2005 5:43:48 AM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: abner; jimfree

Finally Ping....


2 posted on 02/23/2005 5:44:19 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Mister Wilson, you lied.

Bears repeating.

3 posted on 02/23/2005 5:50:19 AM PST by syriacus (Was Margaret Hassan kidnapped because she knew the Oil for Food program failed to aid Iraqis?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Nuttin here, move on??????????? ;^)


4 posted on 02/23/2005 5:51:25 AM PST by litehaus
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To: Doctor Raoul

Ah, the good doctor comes through again! Thank you, sir.

***
BTW, pardon my ignorance, but what does "frog marched" mean anyway? (I refrained from posting the dumb comment about the French that came to mind.)


5 posted on 02/23/2005 6:13:44 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Bigg Red
"Frog Marched" is when they grab both your arms and legs and carry you.

Sounds like something the French would do after they surrender though...

6 posted on 02/23/2005 6:19:59 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Not to be too picky, but you should correct the spelling of Ms. Toensing's name in the headline.

And, do you have a link to the op-ed?


7 posted on 02/23/2005 6:25:56 AM PST by jackbill
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To: Doctor Raoul

Is this in the WaPost's online edition? Can't find it.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 6:42:27 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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To: Doctor Raoul

thanks for keeping life interesting.


9 posted on 02/23/2005 6:55:03 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: Doctor Raoul

Nice work.


10 posted on 02/23/2005 7:12:41 AM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: Doctor Raoul

In Joe Wilson's case, it would have to be "Fraud Marched" as no self respecting frog would be caught dead with him, even in a French restaurant, in Niger... on the menu, with all that mint tea.


11 posted on 02/23/2005 7:32:49 AM PST by Richard Axtell (We should be proud, we made the right choice! God Bless George W. Bush!)
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To: GVgirl

According to the CIA's own description of covert agency. Valerie Plame was not a covert agent.


12 posted on 02/23/2005 7:33:37 AM PST by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Do you have a link to the Tensing article in the WAPO?


13 posted on 02/23/2005 7:53:22 AM PST by wildbill
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To: Doctor Raoul

Thank you, sir, for the lesson, but I am still a little confused. I am trying to visualize this, but I don't see the connection with the frog. One person grabs your legs and one grabs your arms? Or is it that each of the people apprehending you grabs an arm and a leg? Sorry to be so dense.


14 posted on 02/23/2005 1:58:18 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Bigg Red

I always took it as meaning that the person is wearing handcuffs in front with a chain that connected them to ankle shackles. The prisoner has to shuffle or hop. Then again, as has happened numerous times past, I could be totally wrong...


15 posted on 02/23/2005 3:53:11 PM PST by chief_bigfoot ("isn't THAT amazing?" - Ron Popiel)
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To: Bigg Red
Could be two people, arm and a leg mode, or four, one on each limb. Basically you're off the ground.
16 posted on 02/23/2005 4:53:49 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Darkwolf377
Clicke here for the Provo Utah Herald copy. Note it says, Special to the Washington. Guess they ran out of space to put Post? Ashamed they'd reprint anythbing from the Post?
17 posted on 02/23/2005 4:57:21 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: wildbill

See reply #17


18 posted on 02/23/2005 4:57:48 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: wildbill
They published it in January and there were a few threads on it. Here's one (link to entire article included, of course):

The Plame Game: Was This a Crime?

19 posted on 02/23/2005 4:58:20 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Very good, I missed it. Don't get on often enough anymore.

We could have paid them sooner.

20 posted on 02/23/2005 5:00:21 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Thanks very much for this, was looking for it this morning and was like "Is it just me they won't let see it?"


21 posted on 02/23/2005 5:00:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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To: Darkwolf377

Neat that the other paper picked it up last week and then NewsMax chose to highlight it.

It can't be said enough.


22 posted on 02/23/2005 5:01:36 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Doctor Raoul

Whoops, meant #22 for you.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 5:04:38 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Bigg Red
From word-detective.com:

When "frog-march" (also sometimes called "the frog's march") first appeared as slang around 1871, it meant to carry a prisoner (or a drunk being ejected from a bar) face down, with each of four husky men holding an arm or leg. The term comes from the resemblance the recipient of the procedure bears to a frog with its limbs splayed out. Today, however, "frog march" is usually used to mean the less dramatic (but equally effective) method of forcibly propelling a prisoner forward while pinning his arms behind him.

24 posted on 02/23/2005 5:04:38 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: cyncooper
NO problem. I wonder if Sanford and Toensing know about their "winnings" yet?

The media can't claim bias, all we wanted was an answer one way OR the other.

26 posted on 02/23/2005 5:06:00 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Darkwolf377

You've been here long enough to know better than to post full Washington Post material.


27 posted on 02/23/2005 5:10:19 PM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Doctor Raoul

Judith Miller brought this out on Charlie Rose last night.


28 posted on 02/23/2005 5:10:25 PM PST by sausageseller (Look out for the jackbooted spelling police. There! Everywhere!(revised cause the "man" accosted me!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Don't try to get around the excerpt rules by posting the article as a post.

Updated FR Excerpt and Link Only or Deny Posting List due to Copyright Complaints. Bookmark this for reference.

29 posted on 02/23/2005 5:10:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Doctor Raoul

Victoria went to school with one of my cousins.


30 posted on 02/23/2005 5:14:55 PM PST by ladylib
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To: sausageseller
Judith Miller brought this out on Charlie Rose last night.

That is so interesting.

You know, while the Appeals Court judges refer in their individual opinions to the seriousness of outing a covert agent, the main decision quotes from the subpoenas and they grand jury wants Miller not only to tell them what a specified government official told her on or between 7/6 and 7/13 about Plame, if anything. They want to know what was said or documented about Iraq seeing to buy uranium.

I wonder why the grand jury wants to get into that aspect if all they looking at is the narrow question of Plame, her status at CIA and who "outed" her. I just wonder about that.

Oh, and for Cooper they want any source(s) for what he heard about Plame and about Wilson himself AND about Wilson's trip to Niger.

All so intriguing.

31 posted on 02/23/2005 5:32:15 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Admin Moderator

I wasn't trying to get around anything, just made an honest mistake.


32 posted on 02/23/2005 5:47:07 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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To: Lead Moderator
Third time: I didn't know. I don't think I've ever even posted an article, so I have no reason to know.

It was a mistake for which I'm sorry. Good enough?

33 posted on 02/23/2005 5:48:39 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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To: Lead Moderator
Was a bit of head fake there by the WAPO. I had to use in my link the reprint from the WAPO on the Provo Utah Herald.

Be nice to Victoria and Bruce, they may need someone to go to lunch...

34 posted on 02/23/2005 5:58:59 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Seeing the price Joe Wilson has paid for his crime; reminds of another Demrat who is more than deserving of public attention.

Anyone know what has happened to. . .with. . .the 'sock stuffer'; Andy Berger. . . .

Is Mr. Berger traveling around Europe on an extended vacation. . .retired to a 'finca' in Argentina?

Wearing iron bracelets around his house and not getting out much? What. . .???

35 posted on 02/23/2005 6:07:50 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

Don't know, but if I were the judge, I'd see that his library card gets pulled.


36 posted on 02/23/2005 6:51:13 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: Darkwolf377

Good enough.


37 posted on 02/23/2005 7:20:02 PM PST by Lead Moderator
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To: Doctor Raoul
"Don't know, but if I were the judge, I'd see that his library card gets pulled."

. . .but that would be so mean. . .

38 posted on 02/23/2005 8:27:52 PM PST by cricket (Just say - NO U.N.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Thanks.
(Please don't think I am lazy for not looking it up myself; it did not occur to me that it would be available on line.)


39 posted on 02/24/2005 6:52:16 AM PST by Bigg Red (Never again trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Bigg Red

No problem. That was easy, I kinda knew where to look.


40 posted on 02/24/2005 6:51:02 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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