Skip to comments.Terri Schiavo gets another 48 hours
Posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Alissa
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Beautifully said. Hallelujah.
Because the law can't be as simplistic as you make it sound and extraneous circumstances must be considered. The husband should have guardianship no matter what? And forever?
What if he only remembered her saying she would want to to exercise this so-called right to die after he was awarded a hefty settlement as a result of court proceedings during which he pledged his undying love and commitment to her care?
What if he subsequently denied her promised therapy for a decade after receiving money specifically designated for such?
What if he instead spent most of the therapy money on attorneys' fees trying to convince the court that his wife really wanted to die rather than have her hands kept from curling up into her chest?
What if he caused her to spend most of her time alone in a room with no stimulation in a facility specifically designated and federally funded for the care of the terminally ill?
What if he posted a guard outside her door to limit and control the visits by her parents and family, sometimes whimsically denying them altogether?
And what if, in the meantime, he started a new family outside the relationship he so earnestly claimed he had with his disabled wife?
Should such a caring devoted man retain guardianship, or should additional parties be allowed to petition the court on Terri's behalf?
You know, I must admit, reading those facts as I just wrote them, I am astounded that we are at this place at all, that Terri's parents are still fighting for her life and their rightful place in it, after all this time, despite all that has gone on. It's truly incredible.
I understand what you mean, I just want our side to be ready for them. You can always trust evil to do evil.
I hate to sound stupid.. (opening myself for all sorts of things here..) What is DCF?
My prayers are with Terri, her family, and all who are fighting for her!
I had a friend in high school who was brain damaged in an automobile accident - Terri reminds me so much of her...
I'm sorry my Friend, but you're wrong...St. Jude does not get the Glory here. To GOD be the glory, forever. :o)
Either they will succeed in their new hearings to save Terry or
She will be rescued from the Hospice and taken to safety.
The Church of Scientology is there but I saw no signs of them taking over during the times I was there. I did see them walking up and down one street every time I went past but it was just one street.
Some investigative journalist has started looking into the case! See http://www.theempirejournal.com for more on that!
Glory goes to God always, and prayers do work!!
I believe you are correct.
For the most part I guess. Regular news, drudge report, tv here and there. I remember Bush and the legislature writing a new law, which I thought was wrong because it was ex-post facto. I don't have a broad understanding of the case since I haven't followed all of it. I don't understand the husband's motive. It occurred to me he might be a religious man and wanted to marry in a church or something but that wouldn't apply if he has children with his fiancee. He could just get a divorce and marry her. Seems to me there's something missing.
Is there any evidence that people coming to the hospital emergency room have told personnel that they do not want to be treated by Michael R. Schiavo? Or could there be others who actually ask for Schiavo's services?
DCF is the Department of Children and Families
What is DCF?
You are absolutely right, misty! Even though we don't yet trust this judge, let's not be hasty. This is a ruling in Terri's favor. God worked on softening Pharaoh's heart, He can soften Greer's (and Michael's).
1. If she dies he stands to inherit a lot of money or a life insurance policy.
2. If she regains her ability to talk she will tell people what happened to her and that scares him.
Ex-post facto applies only in criminal cases. This is a "civil" execution in the State of FL. When tax hikes were passed in the summer of 1993, they were for instance made retroactive to Jan. 1, for the convenience of tax collectors. And it was legal. Similary, the GWB tax cuts of 2001 were also retroactive: hence $500 checks were issued in the fall of 2001 to many families.
OK, OK...feeding tube. I knew what I meant.
I saw Terri's sister and mom hug in the courtroom. When Greer did the 2 day extension, the courtroom was applauding apparently.
DCF is the protective agency, dept. of children and family services.
I think it is a ploy because NOBODY can file anything or make any kind of objection to the Court or the Governor on the weekend!! I am astonished that Governor Bush wouldn't take custody of this girl and bring her under his protection AS THE LAW ALLOWS HIM TO DO IMMEDIATELY!!
Thanks!!! I thought it must be something like that - but don't like to assume..
This makes such elegant sense, I wonder why Terri's family has never pointed it out. Or have they? I may have missed it but I don't recall they ever commented on it. (Why didn't Michael sue for malpractice if Terri had all this damage caused by paramedics or hospital personnel?)
Removing it wouldn't require special surgery, probably. There are some that are "stitched" inside, that would require going down with a scope and removing the stitches.
But I suspect this is just a g-tube that any nurse could remove. I can't imagine a nurse doing it in a situation like this...I guess there might be some, but I couldn't live with myself.
It may be an answer to prayer...it buys time.
Randall Terry and the Schindlers are going to Tallahassee tonight to request a special session and to meet with Governor Bush per my tv.
Works at a hospital huh? What hospital and what is the email address. I am off down here in Mississippi and really want to give them what for by having someone like this jerk in their employment.
That's why I don't understand all the stays. Why can't a decision be made by the judge? Why the delay? And for what? From what you say, there's evidence that the husband doesn't have her best interests at heart.
A law that decrees that people can be legally starved and dehydrated to death is a law that needs to be thrown OUT. I don't recognize murder as a law.
For God's sake, Judge Greer is toying with Terri's life! What a monster from hell.
I think Greer is a sadistic bast***.
I think Greer is a sadistic bast***.
Yes, but sadly in that he has worn the "R" label, that makes him acceptable to so many.
Disagree. A state can't pass ex-post facto laws either. Clearly stated in the Constitution. Ex-post facto means after the fact.
Michael Schiavo just wants Terri dead - it's a control thing and a spiritual thing. Period. Michael's attorney wants her dead so he can write a book about it and rake in a pile of dough. Judge Greer REALLY wants Terri dead because if she lives everyone is going to find out what an incompetent evil monster he is.
Be glad for the reprieve...he could have ruled she be starved today. God is at work.
Even if there were grounds for his dimissal, this hospital would never give the ax to Michael R. Schiavo -- would fear the consequences from the euthanasia lobby.
No, the federal courts have said that ex-post facto is a concept only in federal law.
may not sound like much - but may be a BIG legal argument
The following is an excerpt from WEAR3 Pensacola:
"Florida lawmakers are proposing two new avenues to keep Terri Schiavo and others like her from having food or water withdrawn.
One proposed bill would prevent the removal of nutrition or hydration unless a person has specifically signed consent forms allowing food and water to be withheld.
Meantime, activist Randall Terry is pushing a change in Florida's Guardianship laws.
His idea is that a spouse...like Michael Schiavo, who begins living with someone else, would lose their status as guardian.
((Randall Terry: "The presumption is that they no longer have the best interest of their disabled spouse in a life or death situation and so their guardianship would be revoked."))
Time is the enemy for both legislative concepts.
To succeed they must keep Terri Schiavo alive until lawmakers begin meeting March 8th."
Maybe if the family gets special session this can be pushed through.
I should have said "criminal law," not federal law.
I agree and I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding your post!! *insert sheepish grin here* :o)
"Big" Jim King of FL's most populous city will this time be leading the pro-euthanasia forces in the legislature if there is a special session.
Uh, if "ex post facto" is such a concern to you, then you should be totally against starving Terri, since nutrition was NOT allowed to be denied before Terri was injured. The standard was changed sometime in the 90s I believe.
What a relief!!!! 48 more hours to pray and work on behalf of Terri.
Jeb Bush and DCF just jumped into the legal proceedings!! Yee-haw..
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