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Terri Schiavo gets another 48 hours
The Scnitz Show | 23 Feb 05

Posted on 02/23/2005 1:02:48 PM PST by Alissa

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To: Alissa
“When is That Bitch Going to Die???” -- "concerned husband" Michael Schiavo
101 posted on 02/23/2005 1:50:44 PM PST by spycatcher
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To: misty4jc

Beautifully said. Hallelujah.


102 posted on 02/23/2005 1:51:53 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: cotton1706

Because the law can't be as simplistic as you make it sound and extraneous circumstances must be considered. The husband should have guardianship no matter what? And forever?

What if he only remembered her saying she would want to to exercise this so-called right to die after he was awarded a hefty settlement as a result of court proceedings during which he pledged his undying love and commitment to her care?

What if he subsequently denied her promised therapy for a decade after receiving money specifically designated for such?

What if he instead spent most of the therapy money on attorneys' fees trying to convince the court that his wife really wanted to die rather than have her hands kept from curling up into her chest?

What if he caused her to spend most of her time alone in a room with no stimulation in a facility specifically designated and federally funded for the care of the terminally ill?

What if he posted a guard outside her door to limit and control the visits by her parents and family, sometimes whimsically denying them altogether?

And what if, in the meantime, he started a new family outside the relationship he so earnestly claimed he had with his disabled wife?

Should such a caring devoted man retain guardianship, or should additional parties be allowed to petition the court on Terri's behalf?

You know, I must admit, reading those facts as I just wrote them, I am astounded that we are at this place at all, that Terri's parents are still fighting for her life and their rightful place in it, after all this time, despite all that has gone on. It's truly incredible.


103 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:00 PM PST by agrace (Is this the line where they're handing out tags?)
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To: misty4jc
I do not like the tone of this thread! Come on! We all sound like the grumbling Israelites in the desert, finding doubt and disbelief with everything. Let's not have a "Marah" attitude here! :o)

I understand what you mean, I just want our side to be ready for them. You can always trust evil to do evil.

104 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:00 PM PST by mware
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To: floriduh voter

Hi there,
I hate to sound stupid.. (opening myself for all sorts of things here..) What is DCF?

My prayers are with Terri, her family, and all who are fighting for her!

I had a friend in high school who was brain damaged in an automobile accident - Terri reminds me so much of her...


105 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:30 PM PST by pamlet
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To: Semper Paratus
You are so right. I wish someone would get the email address of her 'husband's employer' so I could tell them I will not ever use their product(s).
106 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:48 PM PST by gulfcoast6 (I can do anything through Christ who gives me strength.)
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To: gopwinsin04

I'm sorry my Friend, but you're wrong...St. Jude does not get the Glory here. To GOD be the glory, forever. :o)


107 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:55 PM PST by misty4jc
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To: tiredoflaundry

Thanks.


108 posted on 02/23/2005 1:52:58 PM PST by debg
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To: All

Either they will succeed in their new hearings to save Terry or

She will be rescued from the Hospice and taken to safety.


109 posted on 02/23/2005 1:53:27 PM PST by Madeleine Ward
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To: debg

The Church of Scientology is there but I saw no signs of them taking over during the times I was there. I did see them walking up and down one street every time I went past but it was just one street.


110 posted on 02/23/2005 1:53:39 PM PST by ruoflaw
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To: mware; cotton1706

Some investigative journalist has started looking into the case! See http://www.theempirejournal.com for more on that!


111 posted on 02/23/2005 1:54:19 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: misty4jc

Glory goes to God always, and prayers do work!!


112 posted on 02/23/2005 1:55:07 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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To: snugs

Absolutely!


113 posted on 02/23/2005 1:55:25 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: agrace
What got to me was when they stopped giving her food and water last time, and they threatened to arrest the good priest who attempted to give her the Eucharist.
114 posted on 02/23/2005 1:56:13 PM PST by mware
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To: 2Jedismom

I believe you are correct.


115 posted on 02/23/2005 1:56:33 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

For the most part I guess. Regular news, drudge report, tv here and there. I remember Bush and the legislature writing a new law, which I thought was wrong because it was ex-post facto. I don't have a broad understanding of the case since I haven't followed all of it. I don't understand the husband's motive. It occurred to me he might be a religious man and wanted to marry in a church or something but that wouldn't apply if he has children with his fiancee. He could just get a divorce and marry her. Seems to me there's something missing.


116 posted on 02/23/2005 1:58:06 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: gulfcoast6

Is there any evidence that people coming to the hospital emergency room have told personnel that they do not want to be treated by Michael R. Schiavo? Or could there be others who actually ask for Schiavo's services?


117 posted on 02/23/2005 1:58:25 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: pamlet

DCF is the Department of Children and Families


118 posted on 02/23/2005 1:59:14 PM PST by feefee
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To: floriduh voter

What is DCF?


119 posted on 02/23/2005 1:59:42 PM PST by LouisianaJoanof Arc (Proud to be an American Republican)
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To: misty4jc; All

You are absolutely right, misty! Even though we don't yet trust this judge, let's not be hasty. This is a ruling in Terri's favor. God worked on softening Pharaoh's heart, He can soften Greer's (and Michael's).


120 posted on 02/23/2005 2:00:07 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Melpomene
Why does he object? It's my understanding that her parents have told him to keep all monies from the settlement, and are willing to accept full responsibility for her care

1. If she dies he stands to inherit a lot of money or a life insurance policy.
2. If she regains her ability to talk she will tell people what happened to her and that scares him.

121 posted on 02/23/2005 2:00:07 PM PST by msnimje
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To: cotton1706

ex-post facto.

Ex-post facto applies only in criminal cases. This is a "civil" execution in the State of FL. When tax hikes were passed in the summer of 1993, they were for instance made retroactive to Jan. 1, for the convenience of tax collectors. And it was legal. Similary, the GWB tax cuts of 2001 were also retroactive: hence $500 checks were issued in the fall of 2001 to many families.


122 posted on 02/23/2005 2:00:33 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Ohioan from Florida

OK, OK...feeding tube. I knew what I meant.


123 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:03 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust and admire Rush. He has done more for this country than he will ever know. God bless him.)
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To: pamlet; Pegita; MarMema
Schindlers on tv said "This is the latest miracle they have been praying for." Terri's Dad on Fox 13 News Tampa.

I saw Terri's sister and mom hug in the courtroom. When Greer did the 2 day extension, the courtroom was applauding apparently.

DCF is the protective agency, dept. of children and family services.

124 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:28 PM PST by floriduh voter (PRIMO TERRI NEWS www.theempirejournal.com Send everybody there!!!)
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To: msp2004

I think it is a ploy because NOBODY can file anything or make any kind of objection to the Court or the Governor on the weekend!! I am astonished that Governor Bush wouldn't take custody of this girl and bring her under his protection AS THE LAW ALLOWS HIM TO DO IMMEDIATELY!!


125 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:28 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South !)
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To: feefee

Thanks!!! I thought it must be something like that - but don't like to assume..


126 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:49 PM PST by pamlet
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Michael became aware of this X-Ray bone scan which was performed on Theresa in March of 1991 for a closed head injury yet he failed to bring in the authorities. Any other person would have gone ballistic upon finding out the results of such a bone scan.

This makes such elegant sense, I wonder why Terri's family has never pointed it out. Or have they? I may have missed it but I don't recall they ever commented on it. (Why didn't Michael sue for malpractice if Terri had all this damage caused by paramedics or hospital personnel?)

127 posted on 02/23/2005 2:01:58 PM PST by Graymatter
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Removing it wouldn't require special surgery, probably. There are some that are "stitched" inside, that would require going down with a scope and removing the stitches.

But I suspect this is just a g-tube that any nurse could remove. I can't imagine a nurse doing it in a situation like this...I guess there might be some, but I couldn't live with myself.


128 posted on 02/23/2005 2:02:11 PM PST by 2Jedismom (http://kimsbug.blogspot.com/)
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To: BykrBayb

It may be an answer to prayer...it buys time.


129 posted on 02/23/2005 2:02:14 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: Canadian Outrage

Randall Terry and the Schindlers are going to Tallahassee tonight to request a special session and to meet with Governor Bush per my tv.


130 posted on 02/23/2005 2:02:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (PRIMO TERRI NEWS www.theempirejournal.com Send everybody there!!!)
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To: Theodore R.

Works at a hospital huh? What hospital and what is the email address. I am off down here in Mississippi and really want to give them what for by having someone like this jerk in their employment.


131 posted on 02/23/2005 2:03:05 PM PST by gulfcoast6 (I can do anything through Christ who gives me strength.)
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To: agrace

That's why I don't understand all the stays. Why can't a decision be made by the judge? Why the delay? And for what? From what you say, there's evidence that the husband doesn't have her best interests at heart.


132 posted on 02/23/2005 2:03:08 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

A law that decrees that people can be legally starved and dehydrated to death is a law that needs to be thrown OUT. I don't recognize murder as a law.


133 posted on 02/23/2005 2:03:44 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: amdgmary

For God's sake, Judge Greer is toying with Terri's life! What a monster from hell.


134 posted on 02/23/2005 2:03:56 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I think Greer is a sadistic bast***.


135 posted on 02/23/2005 2:04:48 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: Alissa
Feb. 23 (Bloomberg) -- A Florida judge extended a ruling that prevents Terri Schiavo's husband from removing the feeding tube that is keeping his severely brain damaged wife alive.

The ruling by Judge George Greer in Clearwater, Florida, allows Terri Schiavo's parents to continue for 48 hours to seek legal remedies to overturn an appellate court order in the case that allowed Michael Schiavo to seek the removal of the tubes.

Michael Schiavo and his wife's parents have been battling since 1994 over whether Terri Schiavo, 41, should be kept alive. Her parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, say their daughter is able to communicate and may improve with therapy.



To contact the reporter on this story:
Karen Gullo in San Francisco at kgullo@bloomberg.net.

To contact the editor responsible for this story:
Patrick Oster at poster@bloomberg.net.
Last Updated: February 23, 2005 16:03 EST
136 posted on 02/23/2005 2:05:51 PM PST by Raquel (Abortion ruins lives.)
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To: tiredoflaundry

I think Greer is a sadistic bast***.

Yes, but sadly in that he has worn the "R" label, that makes him acceptable to so many.


137 posted on 02/23/2005 2:06:52 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.

Disagree. A state can't pass ex-post facto laws either. Clearly stated in the Constitution. Ex-post facto means after the fact.


138 posted on 02/23/2005 2:07:00 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Michael Schiavo just wants Terri dead - it's a control thing and a spiritual thing. Period. Michael's attorney wants her dead so he can write a book about it and rake in a pile of dough. Judge Greer REALLY wants Terri dead because if she lives everyone is going to find out what an incompetent evil monster he is.


139 posted on 02/23/2005 2:07:30 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (Save Terri Schiavo!!!)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Be glad for the reprieve...he could have ruled she be starved today. God is at work.


140 posted on 02/23/2005 2:07:49 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: gulfcoast6

Even if there were grounds for his dimissal, this hospital would never give the ax to Michael R. Schiavo -- would fear the consequences from the euthanasia lobby.


141 posted on 02/23/2005 2:07:53 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: cotton1706

No, the federal courts have said that ex-post facto is a concept only in federal law.


142 posted on 02/23/2005 2:08:46 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
she is not terminally ill and it is illegal according to state and federal laws for her to be placed into and detained in hospice

may not sound like much - but may be a BIG legal argument

143 posted on 02/23/2005 2:10:12 PM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Alissa

The following is an excerpt from WEAR3 Pensacola:

"Florida lawmakers are proposing two new avenues to keep Terri Schiavo and others like her from having food or water withdrawn.
One proposed bill would prevent the removal of nutrition or hydration unless a person has specifically signed consent forms allowing food and water to be withheld.
Meantime, activist Randall Terry is pushing a change in Florida's Guardianship laws.
His idea is that a spouse...like Michael Schiavo, who begins living with someone else, would lose their status as guardian.
((Randall Terry: "The presumption is that they no longer have the best interest of their disabled spouse in a life or death situation and so their guardianship would be revoked."))
Time is the enemy for both legislative concepts.
To succeed they must keep Terri Schiavo alive until lawmakers begin meeting March 8th."


Maybe if the family gets special session this can be pushed through.


144 posted on 02/23/2005 2:11:39 PM PST by msp2004
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To: Theodore R.

I should have said "criminal law," not federal law.


145 posted on 02/23/2005 2:12:14 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: gopwinsin04

I agree and I'm SO sorry for misunderstanding your post!! *insert sheepish grin here* :o)


146 posted on 02/23/2005 2:12:44 PM PST by misty4jc
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To: msp2004

"Big" Jim King of FL's most populous city will this time be leading the pro-euthanasia forces in the legislature if there is a special session.


147 posted on 02/23/2005 2:12:58 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: cotton1706

Uh, if "ex post facto" is such a concern to you, then you should be totally against starving Terri, since nutrition was NOT allowed to be denied before Terri was injured. The standard was changed sometime in the 90s I believe.


148 posted on 02/23/2005 2:13:49 PM PST by Politicalmom (Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.")
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To: Alissa

What a relief!!!! 48 more hours to pray and work on behalf of Terri.


149 posted on 02/23/2005 2:14:05 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: misty4jc

Jeb Bush and DCF just jumped into the legal proceedings!! Yee-haw..


150 posted on 02/23/2005 2:14:32 PM PST by gopwinsin04
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