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NJ Gun Ban Alert (.50 Cal Rifle & Handgun Ban) S2261
S 2261 ^ | 02.23.05

Posted on 02/23/2005 4:56:27 PM PST by Coleus

 
S2261
Revises definition of destructive device to include weapons of 50 caliber or greater.
 

SENATE, No. 2261
STATE OF NEW JERSEY
211th LEGISLATURE
 
INTRODUCED JANUARY 24, 2005 

Sponsored by:
Senator JOHN H. ADLER
District  6 Camden

SYNOPSIS
Revises definition of destructive device to include weapons of 50 caliber or greater.

CURRENT VERSION OF TEXT

    As introduced.

An Act concerning destructive devices, amending N.J.S.2C:39-1 and supplementing chapter 39 of Title 2C of the New Jersey Statutes. 

    Be It Enacted by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:

 

1. N.J.S.2C:39-1 is amended to read as follows:

2. C:39-1. Definitions. The following definitions apply to this chapter and to chapter 58:

    a.    "Antique firearm" means any rifle or shotgun and "antique cannon" means a destructive device defined in paragraph (3) of subsection c. of this section, if the rifle, shotgun or destructive device, as the case may be, is incapable of being fired or discharged, or which does not fire fixed ammunition, regardless of date of manufacture, or was manufactured before 1898 for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available, and is possessed as a curiosity or ornament or for its historical significance or value.

    b.    "Deface" means to remove, deface, cover, alter or destroy the name of the maker, model designation, manufacturer's serial number or any other distinguishing identification mark or number on any firearm.

    c.    "Destructive device" means any device, instrument or object designed to explode or produce uncontrolled combustion, including (1) any explosive or incendiary bomb, mine or grenade; (2) any rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces or any missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter of an ounce; (3) any weapon capable of firing a projectile of a caliber of 50 caliber or greater [than 60 caliber] or, in the case of an antique firearm, antique handgun or traditional muzzleloader rifle, of a caliber greater than 60 caliber, except a shotgun or shotgun ammunition generally recognized as suitable for sporting purposes; (4) any Molotov cocktail or other device consisting of a breakable container containing flammable liquid and having a wick or similar device capable of being ignited. The term does not include any device manufactured for the purpose of illumination, distress signaling, line-throwing, safety or similar purposes.

    d.    "Dispose of" means to give, give away, lease, loan, keep for sale, offer, offer for sale, sell, transfer, or otherwise transfer possession.

    e.    "Explosive" means any chemical compound or mixture that is commonly used or is possessed for the purpose of producing an explosion and which contains any oxidizing and combustible materials or other ingredients in such proportions, quantities or packing that an ignition by fire, by friction, by concussion or by detonation of any part of the compound or mixture may cause such a sudden generation of highly heated gases that the resultant gaseous pressures are capable of producing destructive effects on contiguous objects. The term shall not include small arms ammunition, or explosives in the form prescribed by the official United States Pharmacopoeia.

    f.    "Firearm" means any handgun, rifle, shotgun, machine gun, automatic or semi-automatic rifle, or any gun, device or instrument in the nature of a weapon from which may be fired or ejected any solid projectable ball, slug, pellet, missile or bullet, or any gas, vapor or other noxious thing, by means of a cartridge or shell or by the action of an explosive or the igniting of flammable or explosive substances. It shall also include, without limitation, any firearm which is in the nature of an air gun, spring gun or pistol or other weapon of a similar nature in which the propelling force is a spring, elastic band, carbon dioxide, compressed or other gas or vapor, air or compressed air, or is ignited by compressed air, and ejecting a bullet or missile smaller than three-eighths of an inch in diameter, with sufficient force to injure a person.

    g.    "Firearm silencer" means any instrument, attachment, weapon or appliance for causing the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other firearm to be silent, or intended to lessen or muffle the noise of the firing of any gun, revolver, pistol or other firearm.

    h.    "Gravity knife" means any knife which has a blade which is released from the handle or sheath thereof by the force of gravity or the application of centrifugal force.

    i.     "Machine gun" means any firearm, mechanism or instrument not requiring that the trigger be pressed for each shot and having a reservoir, belt or other means of storing and carrying ammunition which can be loaded into the firearm, mechanism or instrument and fired therefrom.

    j.     "Manufacturer" means any person who receives or obtains raw materials or parts and processes them into firearms or finished parts of firearms, except a person who exclusively processes grips, stocks and other nonmetal parts of firearms. The term does not include a person who repairs existing firearms or receives new and used raw materials or parts solely for the repair of existing firearms.

    k.    "Handgun" means any pistol, revolver or other firearm originally designed or manufactured to be fired by the use of a single hand.

    l.     "Retail dealer" means any person including a gunsmith, except a manufacturer or a wholesale dealer, who sells, transfers or assigns for a fee or profit any firearm or parts of firearms or ammunition which he has purchased or obtained with the intention, or for the purpose, of reselling or reassigning to persons who are reasonably understood to be the ultimate consumers, and includes any person who is engaged in the business of repairing firearms or who sells any firearm to satisfy a debt secured by the pledge of a firearm.

    m.   "Rifle" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed metallic cartridge to fire a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.

    n.    "Shotgun" means any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and using the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of ball shots or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, or any firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder which does not fire fixed ammunition.

    o.    "Sawed-off shotgun" means any shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length measured from the breech to the muzzle, or a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length measured from the breech to the muzzle, or any firearm made from a rifle or a shotgun, whether by alteration, or otherwise, if such firearm as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches.

    p.    "Switchblade knife" means any knife or similar device which has a blade which opens automatically by hand pressure applied to a button, spring or other device in the handle of the knife.

    q.    "Superintendent" means the Superintendent of the State Police.

    r.    "Weapon" means anything readily capable of lethal use or of inflicting serious bodily injury. The term includes, but is not limited to, all (1) firearms, even though not loaded or lacking a clip or other component to render them immediately operable; (2) components which can be readily assembled into a weapon; (3) gravity knives, switchblade knives, daggers, dirks, stilettos, or other dangerous knives, billies, blackjacks, bludgeons, metal knuckles, sandclubs, slingshots, cesti or similar leather bands studded with metal filings or razor blades imbedded in wood; and (4) stun guns; and any weapon or other device which projects, releases, or emits tear gas or any other substance intended to produce temporary physical discomfort or permanent injury through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air.

    s.    "Wholesale dealer" means any person, except a manufacturer, who sells, transfers, or assigns firearms, or parts of firearms, to persons who are reasonably understood not to be the ultimate consumers, and includes persons who receive finished parts of firearms and assemble them into completed or partially completed firearms, in furtherance of such purpose, except that it shall not include those persons dealing exclusively in grips, stocks and other nonmetal parts of firearms.

    t.     "Stun gun" means any weapon or other device which emits an electrical charge or current intended to temporarily or permanently disable a person.

    u.    "Ballistic knife" means any weapon or other device capable of lethal use and which can propel a knife blade.

    v.    "Imitation firearm" means an object or device reasonably capable of being mistaken for a firearm.

    w.   "Assault firearm" means:

    (1)  The following firearms:

    Algimec AGM1 type
    Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder such as the "Street Sweeper" or
       
"Striker 12"
   
Armalite AR-180 type
    Australian Automatic Arms SAR
    Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms
    Beretta AR-70 and BM59 semi-automatic firearms
    Bushmaster Assault Rifle
    Calico M-900 Assault carbine and M-900
    CETME G3
    Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88 type
    Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series
    Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max 1 and Max 2, AR 100 types
    Demro TAC-1 carbine type
    Encom MP-9 and MP-45 carbine types
    FAMAS MAS223 types
    FN-FAL, FN-LAR, or FN-FNC type semi-automatic firearms
    Franchi SPAS 12 and LAW 12 shotguns
    G3SA type
    Galil type Heckler and Koch HK91, HK93, HK94, MP5, PSG-1
    Intratec TEC 9 and 22 semi-automatic firearms
    M1 carbine type
    M14S type
    MAC 10, MAC 11, MAC 11-9mm carbine type firearms
    PJK M-68 carbine type
    Plainfield Machine Company Carbine
    Ruger K-Mini-14/5F and Mini-14/5RF
    SIG AMT, SIG 550SP, SIG 551SP, SIG PE-57 types
    SKS with detachable magazine type
    Spectre Auto carbine type
    Springfield Armory BM59 and SAR-48 type
    Sterling MK-6, MK-7 and SAR types
    Steyr A.U.G. semi-automatic firearms
    USAS 12 semi-automatic type shotgun
    Uzi type semi-automatic firearms
    Valmet M62, M71S, M76, or M78 type semi-automatic firearms
    Weaver Arm Nighthawk.

    (2)  Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed above.

    (3)  A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a pistol grip, or a folding stock.

    (4)  A semi-automatic rifle with a fixed magazine capacity exceeding 15 rounds.

    (5)  A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault firearm, or any combination of parts from which an assault firearm may be readily assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

    x.    "Semi-automatic" means a firearm which fires a single projectile for each single pull of the trigger and is self-reloading or automatically chambers a round, cartridge, or bullet.

    y.    "Large capacity ammunition magazine" means a box, drum, tube or other container which is capable of holding more than 15 rounds of ammunition to be fed continuously and directly therefrom into a semi-automatic firearm.

    z.    "Pistol grip" means a well-defined handle, similar to that found on a handgun, that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, and which permits the shotgun to be held and fired with one hand.

    aa.  "Antique handgun" means a handgun manufactured before 1898, or a replica thereof, which is recognized as being historical in nature or of historical significance and either (1) utilizes a match, friction, flint, or percussion ignition, or which utilizes a pin-fire cartridge in which the pin is part of the cartridge or (2) does not fire fixed ammunition or for which cartridge ammunition is not commercially available.

    bb. "Trigger lock" means a commercially available device approved by the Superintendent of State Police which is operated with a key or combination lock that prevents a firearm from being discharged while the device is attached to the firearm. It may include, but need not be limited to, devices that obstruct the barrel or cylinder of the firearm, as well as devices that immobilize the trigger.

    cc.  "Trigger locking device" means a device that, if installed on a firearm and secured by means of a key or mechanically, electronically or electromechanically operated combination lock, prevents the firearm from being discharged without first deactivating or removing the device by means of a key or mechanically, electronically or electromechanically operated combination lock.

    dd. "Personalized handgun" means a handgun which incorporates within its design, and as part of its original manufacture, technology which automatically limits its operational use and which cannot be readily deactivated, so that it may only be fired by an authorized or recognized user. The technology limiting the handgun's operational use may include, but not be limited to: radio frequency tagging, touch memory, remote control, fingerprint, magnetic encoding and other automatic user identification systems utilizing biometric, mechanical or electronic systems. No make or model of a handgun shall be deemed to be a "personalized handgun" unless the Attorney General has determined, through testing or other reasonable means, that the handgun meets any reliability standards that the manufacturer may require for its commercially available handguns that are not personalized or, if the manufacturer has no such reliability standards, the handgun meets the reliability standards generally used in the industry for commercially available handguns.

    ee. "Traditional muzzleloader rifle" means a single shot, single barrel, side lock percussion or flintlock firearm with iron or peep sights and a wooden stock. It shall not include any muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or under hammer.

(cf: P.L.2002, c.130, s.5) 

    2. (New section) The provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection c. of N.J.S.2C:39-1 shall not apply to any person who lawfully possessed a firearm of a caliber of 50 caliber or greater on or before the effective date of this act.

    3. This act shall take effect on the first day of the second month following enactment. 

STATEMENT 

    This bill amends N.J.S.2C:39-1 to revise the definition of "destructive device" so that it includes weapons of 50 caliber or greater.

    Although it centers primarily on devices or instruments designed to explode or produce uncontrolled combustion, the current statutory definition of "destructive device" also includes weapons which fire projectiles of greater than 60 caliber.

    Under this bill, it would be unlawful to possess a firearm having a caliber of 50 caliber or greater. A person violating this provision would be guilty of a crime of the third degree. A crime of the third degree is punishable by a fine of up to $15,000, imprisonment for three to five years, or both.

    The bill does, however, provide an exemption for antique firearms, antique handguns and traditional muzzleloader rifles. These firearms would continue to be governed by the statute's current "greater than 60 caliber" restriction. Antique firearms and handguns are defined in the statutes as firearms which:

    (1) do not fire fixed ammunition or were manufactured before 1898 and for which fixed ammunition is not commercially available; and

    (2) are possessed as a curiosity or ornament or for their historical significance or value. The statutory definition of antique handgun includes "replicas."

    The bill defines a traditional muzzleloader rifle to mean a single shot, single barrel, side lock percussion or flintlock firearm with iron or peep sights and a wooden stock. It does not include any muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or under hammer.     Finally, the bill affords an exemption to persons who lawfully possessed a firearm of a caliber of 50 caliber or greater on or before the effective date of the bill. This "grandfather" provision will permit those persons to continue to possess lawfully their large caliber firearms.



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KEYWORDS: 50caliber; bang; banglist; donutwatch; gungrab; njsenate; s2261
 
S-2261 introduced on 1-24-05, is a .50 Cal Rifle & Handgun Ban and it SPECIFICALLY BANS ANY.50 CAL "muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or under hammer"
 
It also BANS any "antique firearm, antique handgun or traditional muzzleloader rifle, of a caliber greater than 60 caliber" It other words the .69+ caliber muskets which won the Revolutionary War, e.g. Brown Bess, Charleville, etc. are banned. Even original antiques are BANNED! 

1 posted on 02/23/2005 4:56:27 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Badray; dbwz


2 posted on 02/23/2005 4:56:50 PM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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Senator John H. Adler (D)

 

Senator JOHN H. ADLER

Senator John H. Adler, Democrat
District Office:  1916 Route 70 East, Suite 3, 
Cherry Hill, NJ 08003  (856)-489-3442

 

3 posted on 02/23/2005 5:05:41 PM PST by Coleus (I support ethical, effective and safe stem cell research and use: adult, umbilical cord, bone marrow)
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Contact Senate President Codey and Assembly Speaker Sires

Contact Acting Governor Codey

4 posted on 02/23/2005 5:11:30 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion and Euthanasia, Don't Democrats just kill ya! Kill babies, Save the Bears!!)
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To: Coleus

Senator JOHN H. ADLER: Freedom hating, gun grabbing a$$hole.


5 posted on 02/23/2005 5:30:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Coleus

hell, even PAINTBALL GUNS (.68 caliber) are banned, as they ARE weapons capable of firing a projectile... as are slings, slingshots, etc...


6 posted on 02/23/2005 5:30:45 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: King Prout

I just sent the a$$hole an email stating that fact and attached the "celebrate diversity" poster showing 20 DIFFERENT kinds of handguns .


7 posted on 02/23/2005 5:45:33 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade

t'won't make a dent: this nance probably thinks paintball guns perpetuate "the culture of violence" and should be banned...


9 posted on 02/23/2005 5:48:16 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: King Prout

To paraphrase Dean in the opposite way " I hate Liberals, I really do." I have to live in this State of Confusion ( Zoo Jersey)


10 posted on 02/23/2005 5:54:39 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade

Come on down to Dixie, then - I did.

Actually, if your relocation range is limited, PA is vastly more gun-friendly than New Jersey. They even have a CCW compact with GA.


11 posted on 02/23/2005 6:03:14 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: King Prout

Just retired. Have a lot in PA and a brother in Florida . Probably be transferring legal residency to Fla in near future. Tax laws are leaner and firearms are MUCH easier to purchase . Believe it or not you need a firearms PERMIT to buy a BB gun in Zoo Jersey .


12 posted on 02/23/2005 6:10:04 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade

ya gotta be f'n kiddin' me!

communists.


13 posted on 02/23/2005 6:29:02 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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To: King Prout

I kid you not !!


14 posted on 02/23/2005 6:34:10 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade
gad... down here, you walk into the local Walmart, pick out the gun (including shotguns and 22lr long guns), fill out the transfer form, plunk down the cash, and walk out, gun in hand.
15 posted on 02/23/2005 6:37:54 PM PST by King Prout (Remember John Adam!)
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Crikey. This just gets worse and worse, and NJ gun owners just continue to sit on their dead asses and let it all be. And then we have the specter of Corzine for governor - Corzine who, if I recall correctly, has said he'd like to make NJ the first gun-free state in the US.

"Outta here" is looking better and better. Why do I want to keep giving tax dollars to these idiots so they can keep using them to destroy my rights?

16 posted on 02/23/2005 9:17:05 PM PST by dbwz (I know you are but what am I?)
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To: Annie03; AntiBurr; Baby Bear; BJClinton; BlackbirdSST; BroncosFan; Capitalism2003; dAnconia; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.

S-2261 introduced on 1-24-05, is a .50 Cal Rifle & Handgun Ban and it SPECIFICALLY BANS ANY.50 CAL "muzzleloader having in-line ignition, a center hammer or under hammer"

It also BANS any "antique firearm, antique handgun or traditional muzzleloader rifle, of a caliber greater than 60 caliber" It other words the .69+ caliber muskets which won the Revolutionary War, e.g. Brown Bess, Charleville, etc. are banned. Even original antiques are BANNED!

17 posted on 02/24/2005 12:28:08 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: All
They can publish all the propaganda they want that shows "low crime" in NJ, but just go try hanging out in Newark or Camden for a few nights. New Jersey's cities are overrun with violent criminals who have guns, plenty of them, including guns that have been essentially illegal since 1934. Wonder why? Where are the drugs coming from, too? Street drugs have also been illegal for many years, but much like guns, there is no shortage of them in Jersey. You can't go to Tennessee or Virginia and buy heroin or cocaine at the drugstore, but NJ's cities are flooded with them, too. Same story with NYC.

"Gun-free state"... That is, unless you are a street thug, drug dealer, mobster, or police officer. Oh yeah, or politician. The core issue that the anti-gun extremists are trying deliberately to hide is that they don't want ordinary citizens reaching for guns when the really unpopular parts of "the program" are put into effect. History shows again and again: when the means to defend oneself are gone, there is literally no limit to what corrupt authorities can and WILL do. The ACLU's "championing" of the "Bill of Rights" would amount to a hill of beans- state monopoly on the instruments of violence means you can whine all you want, but they know they have a free ticket to stomp your face in. As Tony Soprano would say as he leans forward and invades your personal space, "whaddygunnadoaboutit?"

Sort of related to this: Before you embrace the "Republican" Arnold Schwarzenegger for President someday, consider that he signed California's .50 caliber ban into law. Arnold's agenda is evidently anti-gun.
18 posted on 02/24/2005 12:40:32 AM PST by lastlostfight
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To: freepatriot32

I could understand limitations on .50 cal cartridge rifles in NJ. I don't agree with it, but I understand the half-baked mentality that goes into it. But muzzle-loaders? I would say if muzzle-loaders are illegal only criminals will have 'em but sheesh, they won't. There's no point. A baseball bate with a large nail through it would be a more effective implement of crime.


19 posted on 02/24/2005 6:10:50 AM PST by BJClinton (What's the difference between the Super Bowl and the Grammy's? The Eagles have won a Grammy)
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To: Coleus

When will the rats figure it out that gun control is a losing issue with them.


20 posted on 02/24/2005 6:15:08 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: Coleus

I mourn for the state in which I was raised.

NJ is a cesspit for all of the liberal scum from NYC who couldn't stand the crime, lousy schools and high taxes that they voted for there, so they left and came to NJ. Problem is that they brought their liberal outlook and voting patterns, and have successfully turned the NJ where I grew up into a somewhat greener version of NYC...in other words, NJ is now the PRNJ. I miss many things about it, and many people there, but I'm glad to be gone. Things like this, and people like that nanny-state worshipper Adler, only reinforce this view.

Ain't it ironic that the liberal buttwipes that insist that the 2nd Amendment only protects muskets from the Revolutionary War era are now proposing to outlaw the exact same weapons. Gosh, 2 or 3 shots a minute must be too much.


21 posted on 02/24/2005 8:19:05 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: TXBSAFH
When will the rats figure it out that gun control is a losing issue with them.

In the PRNJ? Somewhere in between never and the moment at which the sky is darkened by flocks of flying pigs.

22 posted on 02/24/2005 8:20:53 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr
I miss many things about it

I miss the hot dogs at the Texas Grill on Lexington Ave. in Clifton, and a place called Taylor's Meat Pies (which probably doesn't even exist anymore). That's about it. Don't miss digging my car out of the driveway at 5:00 in the morning after the snowplow plowed it in. Don't miss the moronic gun laws. Now, with a CCW, I can cash and carry even a handgun without a waiting period.

23 posted on 02/24/2005 8:23:50 AM PST by RogueIsland
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To: RogueIsland

I miss Federici's in Freehold - the best pizza in the world, bar none. I miss Thomas Sweet's ice cream (Princeton and New Brunswick), good deli, good Italian and good Chinese food, plus being near a bunch of friends and family. I miss the familiarity of the place where I lived for 39 of my 44 years.

But I do NOT miss the gun laws, high taxes, clearing the snow and/or ice off of my car on a bitter cold morning or dealing with horrendous traffic. Regarding the gun laws, I remember leaving NJ with my wife on the way to Texas. After passing the "Welcome to Delaware" sign on the DMB, I turned to her and said, "Now you won't have to bail me out of jail anymore." I got the bug-eyed, slack-jawed look that I wanted, as well as the chance to explain about NJ's absurd "assault weapon" and "high capacity magazine" ban. The problem I had was with the magazines. When my wife asked me how many I had, I told her, "oh, about 200 years in Rahway worth." More bug-eyes. Then she asked me, "Do they have laws like that in Texas?" I replied, "No, Texas is part of the United States of America."

I enjoy - and appreciate - my freedom. I now carry whenever and pretty much wherever I'd like (including into my synogogue - I can only imagine how the ultra-liberal, gun-fearing Jews of NJ would react); I, too, can buy any handgun I can afford at a moments notice by flashing the CHL; I have a C&R license, so (unlike NJ) I can get older rifles and pistols delivered to my front door; and I can own however many magazines of whatever size I like to without worrying about going to jail. Oh, and when my kids are old enough, I will thoroughly enjoy teaching them about guns and going shooting with them. Unlike in NJ, I can do that without some hoplophobic, statist busibody calling Child Protective Service about "this guy threatening children with a machine gun."


24 posted on 02/24/2005 8:52:18 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: TXBSAFH

When will the rats figure it out that gun control is a losing issue with them. >>

Maybe howard dean will change their minds.


25 posted on 02/24/2005 9:30:59 AM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Ancesthntr; redbardude; King Prout; Renegade; freepatriot32; lastlostfight; RogueIsland; ...
Slain NJ Teacher's Tape Reveals More Evidence, Too Bad She Did Not Have a GUN!!
 
Montclair Anti-Gun Liberals Turn Fanatics Over ANJRPC’s First Amendment Lawsuit

Make 'em pay. One PC bureaucrat at a time, Irvington, NJ, boys arrested and cuffed for paper gun

Fake gun lands costumed 6th grader five-day suspension
 
Group sues on behalf of child in Paper-Gun Incident
 
Pa. police apologize for scissors arrest (of 10 Year Old Girl)
 

26 posted on 02/24/2005 9:51:10 AM PST by Coleus (Brooke Shields aborted how many children? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1178497/posts)
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To: Ancesthntr; redbardude; King Prout; Renegade; freepatriot32; lastlostfight; RogueIsland; Coleus; ...

Last one of you fellows out, please bring the flag.


J/K

Seriously though, have you checked out the NJCSD?
Second Amendment rights group with a focus on RKBA for self defense rather than sporting uses.

http://www.njcsd.org/


27 posted on 02/24/2005 1:37:19 PM PST by Fun Bob
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To: Fun Bob
it sounds like what they desperatly need in nj besides an armed insurection is the national muzzleloader rifle association
28 posted on 02/24/2005 2:06:33 PM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: BJClinton
I could understand limitations on .50 cal cartridge rifles in NJ. I don't agree with it, but I understand the half-baked mentality that goes into it.

I agree. Who needs a .50 caliber rifle or handgun. That's just crazy. And that .45? It's been killing millions of people for the last 100 years. I think it's time for that to go. I don't really agree, but I can understand why they'd want to get rid of it.

Come to think of it, the .357, WOW! if ever there was a gun designed to kill people, that was it. So if they want that one to go, I'd go along with that one too. Not, that I'd like it, but I'd understand.

Do I need to go further?

Do I need a sarcasm tag? When they ban one, they then come for the next one. They don't stop. Don't let their nose in the tent. Don't give 'em an inch, because you know they want the whole mile.

Screw these b@#$$#^s. It's time for them to get a lesson in why we have a 2nd Amendment.

29 posted on 02/24/2005 4:02:30 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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To: Badray

Wow. You really missed the point of my post. Completely.


30 posted on 02/25/2005 6:04:12 AM PST by BJClinton (What's the difference between the Super Bowl and the Grammy's? The Eagles have won a Grammy)
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To: Joe Brower


31 posted on 02/25/2005 1:06:11 PM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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To: neverdem


32 posted on 03/04/2005 10:46:36 AM PST by Coleus (God gave us the right to life and self preservation and a right to defend ourselves and families)
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To: Coleus

They don't call it Nazi Jersey for nothing.


33 posted on 03/04/2005 10:50:55 AM PST by stevio (Let Freedom Ring!)
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