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Swifties Slime Again
NY Times ^ | February 24, 2005 | MAUREEN DOWD

Posted on 02/23/2005 10:15:52 PM PST by neverdem

The New York Times


February 24, 2005
OP-ED COLUMNIST

Swifties Slime Again

By MAUREEN DOWD

WASHINGTON

Instead of trying to destroy AARP, Republicans should be signing up the seniors' lobby to find Osama.

AARP's super-relentless intelligence network is certainly better than that doddering C.I.A's. Osama has to have turned 50, and AARP somehow knows where everyone who has turned 50 lives.

But no. The same Republicans who used to love AARP when it helped them pass the president's prescription drug plan now hate AARP because it is against the president's plan to privatize Social Security.

"They are the boulder in the middle of the highway to personal savings accounts," said Charlie Jarvis, the president of USA Next, a conservative lobbying group. "We will be the dynamite that removes them." He sounded more like Wile E. Coyote than a former interior official in the Reagan and Bush I administrations. "They can run, but they can't hide," he said. But the walker-and-cane set is hard to picture in the Road Runner role.

The Washington Monthly called USA Next's United Seniors Association, a self-styled AARP rival, "a soft-money slush fund for a single G.O.P.-friendly industry: pharmaceuticals."

Certainly, AARP, the gigantic special interest flush with money, probably does wield undue influence and certainly can be an obstacle to public policy, sticking up too much for what their critics call "greedy geezers."

But AARP doesn't deserve this treatment from the "Swift Boat" political demolition team. As Glen Justice reported in The Times, USA Next, which has spent millions on Republican policy fights, has pledged to spend as much as $10 million on ads and other tactics to "dynamite" AARP and get Americans to rip up Social Security. It's hiring some of the same consultants who helped the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who dynamited John Kerry, a war hero, by sliming him as a war criminal.

Once again, just as W. runs into political trouble, he floats above the fray while the help takes out his opponents. Just as John McCain was smeared by Bush supporters in 2000, Swift Boat assassins can rid the president of any meddlesome adversaries now.

The USA Next group intends to combine the two ruthless success stories of the Bush re-election: the Swiftian tactic of amplifying its vicious and dishonest attacks through the media, and the Rovian tactic of hanging gay marriage like an anvil around the neck of a foe.

It began with an almost comically hyperbolic Internet ad that briefly ran on The American Spectator's Web site, painting AARP as pro-gay sex - even though it's tough to think of AARP and steamy lust in the same hot breath - and anti-soldier. It showed a soldier with a red X across him, and two gay men kissing at their nuptuals, with the headline "The REAL AARP Agenda."

(Mr. Jarvis, who used to be executive vice president of James Dobson's Focus on the Family, also urged his Web site readers to "support Mel Gibson's 'The Passion.' " The group's national chairman is Art Linkletter; it seems that aging right-wing trash-talkers say the darndest things.)

AARP has not taken a position on same-sex marriage. But Mr. Jarvis told Judy Woodruff on CNN's "Inside Politics" yesterday that it had opposed a proposal in November to ban same-sex marriage in Ohio.

This was, of course, specious. The Ohio chapter of AARP objected to the proposal because it said the wording could affect legal recognition of any union, even of older heterosexuals living together.

The oleaginous Mr. Jarvis explained that the soldier was X-ed out on the ad because AARP does not "take a position on veterans and combat veterans' health and support an expansion of their assets. And we do." That is so lame. Just because AARP doesn't endorse a USA Next plan for veterans' health, that doesn't mean it hates American soldiers.

Mr. Jarvis defended his ad by saying that he was simply trying to provoke liberal bloggers, and that he succeeded. In fact, part of the sinister beauty of the Swift Boat method is its viral quality: it slips into a host body - "Inside Politics," say - and hijacks it. An ad it showed briefly on the Internet has now been replicated free, all over the world, and, yes, it is now being transmitted through the Op-Ed page of The New York Times.

Senator Jon Corzine of New Jersey sent a letter to President Bush yesterday calling the USA Next ad "incendiary" and asking him to denounce such tactics. But, of course, President Bush has nothing whatsoever to do with any of this. Right?

E-mail: liberties@nytimes.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: aarp; alcoholic; artlinkletter; bitchaxe; dowd; dowdy; frumpy; linkletter; lonely; mandatorybarfalert; maureendowd; mba; morfordsoulsister; shrewharpy; socialsecurity; swiftees
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It's hiring some of the same consultants who helped the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, who dynamited John Kerry, a war hero, by sliming him as a war criminal.

Now consultants are confused with the Swiftees, who hammered Kerry for being a traitor after giving aid and comfort to the enemy and calling his comrades war criminals on the basis of the Winter Soldiers' testimony, that couldn't be corrroborated.

1 posted on 02/23/2005 10:15:53 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
AARP's super-relentless intelligence network is certainly better than that doddering C.I.A's

Make that Clinton's CIA, ya bitter old hag ...
2 posted on 02/23/2005 10:17:03 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: neverdem

3 posted on 02/23/2005 10:18:01 PM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: neverdem

Poor Maureen, she is such a bitter old "Sea Hag"


4 posted on 02/23/2005 10:19:10 PM PST by MJY1288 (In The War On Terror; Belgium = GWB Piss Mats,... U.S.A = The Liberation of 50 Million so far)
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To: NautiNurse; Interesting Times; Nick Danger

Mo Dowd *barf alert* ping!


5 posted on 02/23/2005 10:19:35 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: neverdem
Maureen Dowd - bitter, man hating, fishwife feminista with
terminal PMS.
6 posted on 02/23/2005 10:20:34 PM PST by Apercu ("Rep ipsa loquitor")
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Mo Dowd *barf alert* ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

7 posted on 02/23/2005 10:20:52 PM PST by nutmeg (democRATs = The Party of NO)
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To: neverdem

Dowd is applying the concept of Dowding or a Dowdism .

The looney left rides again. I wonder how much effort it takes for her to just make up this manure.


8 posted on 02/23/2005 10:20:55 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem

Maureen Dudd,,,rave on.


9 posted on 02/23/2005 10:21:17 PM PST by Waco
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To: neverdem

That woman is going to die a shriveled up lonely old prune!

I wonder if she ever reads what she writes to get an idea of her own personality? If she doesn't...... she should.


10 posted on 02/23/2005 10:23:58 PM PST by GloriaJane ("How Many Babies Are Crying In Heaven Tonight" http://music.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: neverdem
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LIES, LIES, all LIES!!!

11 posted on 02/23/2005 10:24:47 PM PST by MarineBrat ("God is dead"- Nietzsche,1886. "Nietzsche is dead"- God,1901)
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To: Apercu

Dowd has to push her putrid viewpoint now because in a few years the only market for her lunacy will be an obscure community college communist crackpot newspaper. (and she will have a blog which does not allow commentary other than her own)


12 posted on 02/23/2005 10:25:02 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem
"AARP has not taken a position on same-sex marriage."

However, by their silence on this issue, they seem FOR the 'missionary' position....
13 posted on 02/23/2005 10:26:53 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (ATTN. MARXIST RED MSM: I RESENT your "RED STATE" switcheroo using our ELECTORAL MAP as PROPAGANDA!)
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To: neverdem
OK folks. Here's an idea. I would guess that none of us buy the NYSlimes, we need to hurt them another way or two. First off, skip posting their articles, or at least those of that Hoe Dow. Also do not even tickle their website. Let it die. Let them all die due to lack of interest. Do not post their articles, do not use their website. Their own circulation is in a tailspin like most other liberal rags.
Here's an ounce of prevention. I can get the TV listings in Boston, but it goes to the Boston Globe site. They consider that success.
Give me the Heralds TV listings.
14 posted on 02/23/2005 10:28:34 PM PST by ProudVet77 (It's boogitty boogitty boogitty time!)
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To: ProudVet77

I agree, we need to figure out a way to hurt the NYT as an institution.


15 posted on 02/23/2005 10:31:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: neverdem
In fact, part of the sinister beauty of the Swift Boat method is its viral quality: it slips into a host body - "Inside Politics," say - and hijacks it.

Blind pig. Acorn...

16 posted on 02/23/2005 10:34:41 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: neverdem
There always seems to be a moment in a MoDo column where she goes overboard in her zeal to be clever while trying to make her point. Here is where she blows it today:

"....and get Americans to rip up Social Security"

See, she goes and writes a sloppy line like that and you end up smiling and shaking your head and merely scanning what's left of her column because you know, once again, that you just can't trust her. When it comes to credibility, she's her own worst enemy.

Didn't the New York Times once upon a time have careful, thoughtful columnists?
MoDo is the best they can do?

By the way, has the New York Times bothered to try to find a token conservative columnist to replace Safire?

17 posted on 02/23/2005 10:35:46 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: longtermmemmory
I agree, we need to figure out a way to hurt the NYT as an institution.

Sure, buts lets not forget to make them all personally suffer for their many sins.

18 posted on 02/23/2005 10:36:14 PM PST by mcenedo (lying liberal media - our most dangerous and powerful enemy)
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To: MarineBrat

"Creepy LIAR!!!"


19 posted on 02/23/2005 10:38:00 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("Supporting the Troops" means you want them to WIN. It doesn't mean you just want them to return.)
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To: neverdem
Democrats see no Social Security crisis.


20 posted on 02/23/2005 10:39:04 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("Supporting the Troops" means you want them to WIN. It doesn't mean you just want them to return.)
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To: MJY1288
Nothing intelligent in this article. Move along nothing to see here.

I think what has happened to the Times is the "Dowdian" tactic of infesting a paper with asinine views and watching it's credibility disappear.
21 posted on 02/23/2005 10:40:02 PM PST by CONGHUNTER
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To: longtermmemmory
I agree, we need to figure out a way to hurt the NYT as an institution.

It will die under the weight of its own antiquated, out-of-touch, Manhattan liberalism. It will take awhile, but the paper will continue to fade. I will give one thing to the NY Times - - it is one of the few remaining publications that we don't have to excerpt here.

22 posted on 02/23/2005 10:40:54 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: John Lenin

Make that the CIA that was defanged by the Church Commission and the Dunderheads over the years.


23 posted on 02/23/2005 10:41:18 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: neverdem

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24 posted on 02/23/2005 10:43:06 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I believe 'The Wall' was intentionally built by Blozo and Broomhilda to take cover for 9/11.


25 posted on 02/23/2005 10:44:30 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

True but there is a long history to undercutting the intelligence capabilities of this nation by the dems.

One has to wonder why the dems have been so willing to make sure we were vulberable and have continued that effort to this day.


26 posted on 02/23/2005 10:49:10 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: neverdem
As one who constantly attacks Maureen Dowd for her annoying habit of writing about things she knows nothing about, I can only commend her for writing an article about the complaints of harpy senior citizens.

I only wish she would have told us why her and the other old biddies constantly yell at the neighborhood kids, have sixty or seventy cats, and wear sweaters in August.

Hopefully, she'll write a follow up article after she finds her teeth.

27 posted on 02/23/2005 10:49:15 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I don't wonder, Clinton was trying to put commies in charge of the Dept of Education. The RATS sold us out a long time ago its only recent that it is becoming very clear what they are up too.


28 posted on 02/23/2005 10:53:06 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Lancey Howard
Here is where she blows it today: "....and get Americans to rip up Social Security" See, she goes and writes a sloppy line like that and you end up smiling and shaking your head and merely scanning what's left of her column

You're exactly right. I was actually giving the article a chance, to see if she had anything interesting to say. Then I got to that childish bit of screechingly asinine hyperbole and remembered why I long ago stopped looking for nuggets of insight in her typings.

She really is a complete idiot.

29 posted on 02/23/2005 10:53:50 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hate to say it but we are setup for a commie takeover. When you promise more than you can deliver ...


30 posted on 02/23/2005 10:55:13 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: Petronski

I bet Dowd goes into convulsions at the sound of Catherine's name.


31 posted on 02/23/2005 11:01:54 PM PST by ArmyBratproud
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To: neverdem

The Ohio chapter of AARP objected to the proposal because it said the wording could affect legal recognition of any union, even of older heterosexuals living together.

Yeah right. If anyone believes this they also believe it doesn't rain in California.


32 posted on 02/23/2005 11:03:36 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: neverdem

Besides the SBVT only said that Kerry might not have deserved all of the medals he was awarded. It was Kerry himself who said he committed war crimes, not the SBVT.


33 posted on 02/23/2005 11:03:39 PM PST by JLS
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To: neverdem

skerry a war hero. These Rats are blind dumb and stupid. Whatever he was was thrown out the window when he became a traitor.


34 posted on 02/23/2005 11:06:41 PM PST by Deetes
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To: dead
I was actually giving the article a chance, to see if she had anything interesting to say.

When the headline's a blatant lie, how 'interesting' can the article be?

The only connection that I've seen reported between the Swifties and either USA Next or its United Seniors Association is the fact that USA Next has hired some of the consultants who had previously done work for the Swifties. Has there been any more of a 'connection' reported? If there has been, I've missed it.

I only stopped by for the obligatory CZJ pictures. :=)

35 posted on 02/23/2005 11:08:10 PM PST by Bob
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To: nutmeg; Interesting Times
Swiftian tactic...Rovian tactic... Art Linkletter; it seems that aging right-wing trash-talkers say the darndest things

Ms. Dowd spent another fine afternoon at the March Hare and Mad Hatter tea party.

36 posted on 02/23/2005 11:14:32 PM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: neverdem
I try to avoid reading Dowd's columns as a whole. It strikes me like renting an apartment real cheap, on the ground floor of an outhouse. And I had this issue covered both earlier and more honestly than Dowd, in "AARP, Social Security and Coots," posted here on FR.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, Confessions of a "Salivating Moron"

37 posted on 02/23/2005 11:40:11 PM PST by Congressman Billybob ("The truth is out there." Yep, it's on the Internet, but it takes digging, and common sense.)
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To: NautiNurse
Looks Like MoDo Stayed Out Late Again


38 posted on 02/23/2005 11:50:13 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: longtermmemmory
I agree, we need to figure out a way to hurt the NYT as an institution.

In the bad old days, buying ink by the barrel gave MSM the final word. These days, buying ink by the barrel becomes increasingly expensive with each passing day relative to the virtually free cost of the Internet.

In the world of the teleputer, broadcasters, educators, investors, and filmmakers, who thought they could never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people, are going to discover they were wrong.

39 posted on 02/24/2005 12:14:36 AM PST by Milhous
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To: smoothsailing

now THAT is funny


40 posted on 02/24/2005 12:21:22 AM PST by PianoMan (and now back to practicing)
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To: neverdem

How did this infantile obscenity get in here without a ten-bucket barf alert?


41 posted on 02/24/2005 12:33:58 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: neverdem
The "Swifties" are a group of military veterans, who beyond any shadow of a doubt, served their country, went in harms way, and distingished themselves in the service of their country. Some are decorated war heros. If anything, they've EARNED the right to be heard. They've EARNED their credibility the old fashioned way, by putting their life on the line for their country.

And, Maureen Dowd, their chief critic: she's done what for who? and at what risk to her life, liberty, or property?

Hell, it's like a whore calling a virgin bride "indecent". Enough said.

SFS

42 posted on 02/24/2005 12:52:36 AM PST by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: Brian Allen
How did this infantile obscenity get in here without a ten-bucket barf alert?

Swiftees and slime doesn't mix unless it's MoDo. That's enough. No warning was necessary.

43 posted on 02/24/2005 1:24:58 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Hah -- I always thought you were smarter than me -- and Right there's the proof!

<]:^)~<


44 posted on 02/24/2005 1:47:39 AM PST by Brian Allen (I fly and can therefore be envious of no man -- Per Ardua ad Astra!)
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To: neverdem
Nothing has changed at the Jayson Blair Slimes!
45 posted on 02/24/2005 3:10:47 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: neverdem

She's bonkers. A complete, total "fruit loop".

Regards, Ivan


46 posted on 02/24/2005 3:12:22 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: Petronski
Re CZJ, I saw a set of DVDs at the library of a British television program, The Darling Buds of May, featuring CZJ. She was about 21-23 when the series was filmed. The series is funny and she's delicious, as usual.
47 posted on 02/24/2005 3:40:00 AM PST by csvset
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To: neverdem

Hey Dowd, I only have one question for you....how many years have you been a member of the AAAP?


48 posted on 02/24/2005 4:16:08 AM PST by zygoat
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To: neverdem

MoDo calling someone else slime, how rich, how Frank Rich.


49 posted on 02/24/2005 4:42:26 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Reporter)
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To: neverdem

Oh no, Mo. It's not the Swiftees who are/were dishonest.

It's you.


50 posted on 02/24/2005 4:45:38 AM PST by sauropod (Hitlary: "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.")
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