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Cleaned-up ‘Dirty War' on PBS
Kansas City Star ^ | Feb. 23, 2005

Posted on 02/24/2005 6:22:27 AM PST by traumer

“Dirty War” The first of three movies HBO will share with PBS in coming months, this docudrama imagines what kind of panic would break out were terrorists to set off a radioactive “dirty bomb” in downtown London.

As I wrote last month when the film aired on pay cable, “Although the hypothetical attack is deadly, the most riveting scenes in ‘Dirty War' record the bomb's aftermath, as London's emergency forces buckle under the ensuing mass panic.”

The public TV version will be missing a few frames, which is great timing given the decision by PBS to sanitize a “Frontline” war documentary that aired Tuesday. The most notable thing missing is a scene of a woman being stripped naked and given a decontamination shower.

PBS decided that was, what, too dirty? Yeah, and I understand that next week, in deference to viewers who are offended by displays of raw covetousness, PBS will bleep all the appraisal prices from “Antiques Roadshow.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: dirtybomb; dirtywar; hbo; jihadineurope; pbs

1 posted on 02/24/2005 6:22:28 AM PST by traumer
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To: traumer
PBS decided that was, what, too dirty? Yeah, and I understand that next week, in deference to viewers who are offended by displays of raw covetousness, PBS will bleep all the appraisal prices from “Antiques Roadshow.”

Teletubbies are actually watchable if you pretend all the funny sounds are things being bleeped.

2 posted on 02/24/2005 6:27:04 AM PST by pikachu (BE alert -- we need more lerts!)
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To: traumer
I watched this here (PA) lastnight, on PBS, they DID show the people being stripped and showered.. pretty good film

but anyone with any sense should know that it would be done, what surprised me was the didn't have everyone in the crowd strip and use fire hoses on them... kind of a WMP for the WMD ( Wash Masses of People)

3 posted on 02/24/2005 6:27:57 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: traumer
which is great timing given the decision by PBS to sanitize a “Frontline” war documentary that aired Tuesday.

I watched this. I guess it was the sanitized version since I have to think that the language actually used is saltier than what I was hearing. However, I find it hard to believe that anyone who watched this could feel anything but admiration and gratitutde for these fine young men.

4 posted on 02/24/2005 6:28:18 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: pikachu

I thought teletubbies were the weirdest thing on PBS until I saw Boohbas. Now those things are weird.


5 posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:50 AM PST by bethelgrad (for God, country, the Marine Corps, and now the Navy Chaplain Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: sure_fine

"...they DID show the people being stripped and showered...."

I'd be interested to know what they did to rinse inhaled radioactive particulate from the lungs of the people.....did they even address this?..or are we deemed better off with the illusion that an external rinse would be sufficient?


6 posted on 02/24/2005 6:38:10 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: pikachu
You're right. So islamists won't complain :o) The cleaned-up version....
7 posted on 02/24/2005 6:38:32 AM PST by traumer
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To: sure_fine
Did the show make any mention of who set off the dirty bomb, or was it just some generic terrorists (like was done with Sum of All Fears)?
8 posted on 02/24/2005 6:43:10 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: sure_fine

Yeh, they did seem overwhelmed, tremendously.

I was wondering whether, as the cloud began to rise, if hitting it with water sprays and water-bearing aircraft would force the radiation down and help keep it from spreading.

Perhaps someone knowlegeable could weigh in on such a concept. [Of course, cities would have to have units on some kind of standby for them to be effective, as the smoke rises and spreads quickly.]


9 posted on 02/24/2005 6:45:25 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: traumer

10 posted on 02/24/2005 6:48:34 AM PST by traumer
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To: KarlInOhio
Did the show make any mention of who set off the dirty bomb...

The script was saturated with their muslim identity, including a muslim woman on the police force chasing them, as a counterbalance. It was very clever and not very PC at all.

It airs in the overnight tonight, and I plan to stay up to see it again, from the beginning. (1 AM, I think.)

11 posted on 02/24/2005 6:50:29 AM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: KarlInOhio
Yes, it was a ME band of terrorists.

Great quote at the end of the movie, when they are interrogating one of them. They tell him that the Pakis have his wife and his 4 yo is in an orphanage. The interrogators mention that the Brits will retaliate. The terrorist says "We expect you to retaliate...it is what unites us and divides you."

That sure seems to be true.....

12 posted on 02/24/2005 6:51:50 AM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: Petronski

Some PBS stations air it more than one viewing.

PBS Oklahoma scheduled 3 showings, but PBS Arkansas scheduled only the Wednesday pm showing. HBO may still be showing it occasionally.


13 posted on 02/24/2005 6:53:28 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
I'd be interested to know what they did to rinse inhaled radioactive particulate from the lungs of the people.....did they even address this?

Inhalation was discussed, including one scene when the idea of offering victims food and drink was shot down because inhalation would be compounded if victims got their hands near their mouths, and another with a loudspeaker warning to the cordoned victims to avoid drinking, eating or touching their mouths, again, because it might aggravate the inhalation problem.

14 posted on 02/24/2005 6:53:48 AM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: TomGuy
"I was wondering whether, as the cloud began to rise, if hitting it with water sprays and water-bearing aircraft would force the radiation down and help keep it from spreading. "

I know someone who is in the business of knowing about that, Tom, and intend to ask her about just that.

but in my little knowledge of it, I think they use the controlled showers to also collect the drained contaminated water.... even so, there could be something better than the mess they had in that scenario

15 posted on 02/24/2005 6:54:24 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: KarlInOhio

The film went into quite a bit of detail on the terrorists who were all Muslim. The part I found interesting was the way they set up terror cells. It showed the logisitics group and the two suicide bombers, as well as how all this could possibly be done.


16 posted on 02/24/2005 6:54:38 AM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: TomGuy

I get two PBS stations here in western Pennsylvania, and they both routinely reair things overnight, the day after the prime time airing.


17 posted on 02/24/2005 6:55:38 AM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: ContemptofCourt
The terrorist says "We expect you to retaliate...it is what unites us and divides you."

I caught that, too. Mind scanned many of our 'own' -- Michael Moores and the Hollywooders, Ted Kennedys and the Congressional 'progressives', Liberal protestors...

It is more true than we can to admit.
18 posted on 02/24/2005 6:56:25 AM PST by TomGuy (America: Best friend or worst enemy. Choose wisely.)
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To: Bahbah

Re your post 4, I saw the "unsanitized" version and amazingly enough, I was not traumatized.


19 posted on 02/24/2005 6:56:49 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: sure_fine
the website about this movie

Dirty War

20 posted on 02/24/2005 7:01:14 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: KarlInOhio
Did the show make any mention of who set off the dirty bomb, or was it just some generic terrorists (like was done with Sum of All Fears)?

The movie was not PC in the least.

The bad guys were conniving and coldblooded Islamic fundamentalists, the cops and firemen were good guys but completely unprepared for the situation, and the politicians were mostly interested in covering their own asses.

They didn't even divide the politicians into fat white conservative men and do-gooder superwise liberal minorities like an American production would certainly have done.

21 posted on 02/24/2005 7:10:18 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Petronski

".....warning to the cordoned victims to avoid drinking, eating or touching their mouths, again, because it might aggravate the inhalation problem."

Figures.....did they also say that folks should have stopped breathing when the dirty bomb detonated? I'll bet not....

Touching your mouth after external decon would in fact be insignificant. "Dirty" bombs are/will be constructed so as to generate and spread fine radioactive PARTICULATE as wisely as possible, to cause insidious "radiation sickness"......they are not a nuclear or "neutron" detonation or reaction. Radioactive particulate is spread by conventional explosives OR OTHERWISE DISBURSED without an explosion.

Having been exposed to breathing such dust prior to a rinseoff, I would have no qualms about hand/mouth contact, considering the repeated inhalations (breaths) of particulate-laden air into my particulate-trapping lungs.


22 posted on 02/24/2005 7:16:59 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Figures.....did they also say that folks should have stopped breathing when the dirty bomb detonated? I'll bet not....

Of course not, that would be absurd.

23 posted on 02/24/2005 7:37:35 AM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: OldPossum
amazingly enough, I was not traumatized.

I'm so glad to hear that. I can't imagine anyone who grew up with my Dad would have been either ;)

24 posted on 02/24/2005 8:07:47 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: Petronski
Unfortunately it looks like it's not being replayed on the analog PBS channels in my area. Too bad. I would have liked to have seen it.
25 posted on 02/24/2005 8:16:30 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Blackwell for Governor 2006: hated by the 'Rats, feared by the RINOs.)
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To: traumer

I just saw this for the first time on my cable network...

I thought it was pretty good, and did not think that the nudity during the decontamination scenes was over the top or inappropriate...

I believe it is something that everyone should not be surprised in the least if this were to happen for real in this country...

The sooner some people get over the nervous ninny factor in a dramatization of something that could happen, anywhere...

The sooner we can effectively prepare for it, or better yet do the things we need to do to prevent it as best we can...

Otherwise, be prepared to be stripped, washed, scrubbed, all your posessions on your body destroyed, and be very uncomfortable at the very least...You will not have a choice...

The people who won't get that treatment are the ones we will never see again...

Reality really stinks if you ask me...


26 posted on 09/18/2006 6:45:46 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: All

"Dirty War" was, and likely still is, available at Blockbuster.


27 posted on 09/18/2006 6:49:45 PM PDT by decimon
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