Posted on 02/24/2005 11:17:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
ITHACA NYNewly elected Democratic National Commitee Chair Howard Dean, speaking at a Cornell University rally Wednesday (February 23), admitted that social security faced problems if not reformed, contradicting the claims of many in his own party.
According to the Cornell Daily Sun, which covered the event locally, Dean pointed out that if Social Security were left alone for 30 years, its benefits would be reduced to 80 percent of what it is now. He acknowledged that there were indeed problems with the program.
The article also indicates that Dean also attacked the notion of many that social security was a pension for the middle class: [Social Security] was a response toward [overcoming] abject poverty...it is not meant as a retirement program...it was meant as a social safety net for people who had reached the end of their working careers and did not deserve, after a long lifetime of dignified work, to live in poverty,'" the paper quotes Dean as saying. "'It's not supposed to be a pension. "
While Dean did not endorse President Bushs call for privatization, his views still put him at odds with many of his fellow democrats, some of whom have actually accused the President of lying about the need to reform to social security.
For example, Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy recently accused President Bush of playing the politics of fear with social security.
Similarly, a number of the liberal blogs, a medium Dean himself helped pioneer as a campaign tool, accused the President of crisis rhetoric and "a deliberate distortion (read: lie) in an attempt to mislead the American public."
It is unknown whether Deans acknowledgement of the problems with social security will have any effect on the direction of his party. In fact, while the Cornell Sun indicated that social security issues were a major point in Deans speech, other papers, such as the Ithaca Journal and Syracuse Post Standard, did not even cover his comments on the issue, preferring to focus on Deans appeal to the youth vote.
This is the part where liberals come out of the woodwork to explain that the party chairman does not set policy, he is just there to raise money.
This sure isn't going to make Hillary happy.................
Dean picked up the wrong SS playbook dated 1999.
ping
Yup, I'll be listening for that line in the news...
WOO HOO bump!!
Dean's got a mouth that keeps on giving and giving.
what do you know, a democrat who actually is telling the truth about SS...
A) It's broken
B) It has become a pension system which was never it's intention
I think Dean is a robot controlled by Karl Rove..
LOL!
We do all know Karl engineered Dean's ascension, right?
It's dishonest for any political party to say that SS is not in crisis or bordering on a crisis, when that's been the rallying cry for SS to either fix it, or keep it solvent or relevant, for as long as I've been alive. Sooner rather than later, something is going to have to be done about the problem. There is no sense waiting until the last moment.
Trouble for Social Security if something is done!
DUers are going to have heart attacks! Send out the Oxygen!
That's a given, but if we pass the acknowledgment it needs to be fixed we have the upper hand. Tax hikes or tax cuts. Which will be more popular in national debate?
Disagree. Anyone in the Democrat party, who isn't saying what Clinton said in 1999, while at the same time, blasting what Bush has said in 2005, is a friggen hypocrite.
You mean the "Ithaca loves Dean" puff piece? Yeah.
Just as the IJ "buried" the news of Hinchey's moonbat conspiracy rant until the blogs found out about it, it buried Dean's admission about Soc. Sec.
Those people are scum.
Howard Dean just can't stay on message.
It's going to be a great four years.
No doubt. However, Dean's admission is extremely newsworthy insofar as it contradicts a large chunk of his own party AND can be used by the President and others to demonstrate that even the DNC chair recognizes the need for SOME type of reform.
I watched some of it.
He wasn't there for an interview. He was there to use the show as a infomercial for his lunatic base.
I haven't heard anyone claim that social security isn't broken, the disagreement is over the required changes. Private accounts are just but one possible fix for a broken system.
Yes, so true. Motor mouthed all the way through.
I wonder how he and his metro sexual nediot buddies in the MSM will try to revise these statements.
"We do all know Karl engineered Dean's ascension, right?"
Actually that isn't Dean, who is running the DNC. It is a Karl Rove Clone with plastic surgery and coaching in shrill screams making it look and sound like Dean.
Rove replaced the real nut with his clone during the Christmas Holidays. Halliburton financed the cloning, kidnapping and exchange of Dean.
Would you call a Karl Rove Clone a "K.R.one"?
And the real Dean is being held at Guantánamo. LOL
This is probably the KR 100+ clone. The lunatic libs have no concept of how many KR clones have replaced their lunatic leaders.
"And the real Dean is being held at Guantánamo. LOL"
Actually, the real Dean is being shuttled to and from pro America Arabic countries by the famous Haliburton Corporate Jet.
Well Dean did say they needed to copy and talk like Newt
Just one problem he forgot
Newt is a Republican and agrees with the President .. LOL!!
"Mr. Dean....Sen. Reid on line one...."
I hope for his own sake Howard doesn't take the Hildbeast up on her invite for a walk in the park.
What exactly does this mean? Does it mean that if a 65 year old is receiving $500.00/month from SS today, that a 65 year old in 30 years would receive $400.00/month, i.e. 80% of todays payment? If so, since by then a dollar will be worth about 10 cents, that would be effectively about $40.00, enough to pay the heat for one or two days.
Just wondering!
In which case the SS problem will be solved..by becomming irrelevant.
I think it means that Dean knows the system is broke but doesn't understand why and can't admit what the real answer is.
Hey, hey, I resent that cartoon. I believe that Mike Judge, creator of Beavis is a Republican.
;-)
I think Karl Rove implanted a chip into Dr. FrankenDean's brain and is making him say these things!
No, he's just seeing this as a golden opportunity to raise taxes.
Let's pray Dubya doesn't play into his hands.
I'm sure Dean sees this as a golden opportunity to raise taxes.
But Dubya needs to spin this admission and play Dean instead.
Yep. You didn't hear any gnashing of the teeth or emotional newspaper editorials (and letters from idiots) back then. Now that there's a mean-old Republican in the WH...
....moveon.org... must have foot in mouth right now after being on FNC today bragging about no change needed....SS not in crises!
(It hadn't been posted yet when I pinged you.)
It was probably too difficult for reporters from the Journal
and Post to comprehend what was being said. It's so much
easier to just watch the crowd and write your impressions.
Especially when you get to right "local color" instead of things that require understanding and thought.
The Dems have pushed the self-destruct button...
"Dizzy" Dean throws out the first curve ball of the new season.
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