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DEAN ADMITS: TROUBLE FOR SOCIAL SECURITY IF NOTHING DONE
Federal Review ^ | 2/24/05

Posted on 02/24/2005 11:17:05 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA NY—Newly elected Democratic National Commitee Chair Howard Dean, speaking at a Cornell University rally Wednesday (February 23), admitted that social security faced “problems” if not reformed, contradicting the claims of many in his own party.

According to the Cornell Daily Sun, which covered the event locally, “Dean pointed out that…if Social Security were left alone for 30 years, its benefits would be reduced to 80 percent of what it is now. He acknowledged that… there were indeed problems with the program.”

The article also indicates that Dean also attacked the notion of many that social security was a “pension” for the middle class: “ ’[Social Security] was a response toward [overcoming] abject poverty...it is not meant as a retirement program...it was meant as a social safety net for people who had reached the end of their working careers and did not deserve, after a long lifetime of dignified work, to live in poverty,'" the paper quotes Dean as saying. "'It's not supposed to be a pension.’ "

While Dean did not endorse President Bush’s call for privatization, his views still put him at odds with many of his fellow democrats, some of whom have actually accused the President of lying about the need to reform to social security.

For example, Massachusetts Senator Edward Kennedy recently accused President Bush of playing “the politics of fear” with social security.

Similarly, a number of the liberal blogs, a medium Dean himself helped pioneer as a campaign tool, accused the President of “crisis rhetoric” and "a deliberate distortion (read: lie) in an attempt to mislead the American public."

It is unknown whether Dean’s acknowledgement of the “problems” with social security will have any effect on the direction of his party. In fact, while the Cornell Sun indicated that social security issues were a major point in Dean’s speech, other papers, such as the Ithaca Journal and Syracuse Post Standard, did not even cover his comments on the issue, preferring to focus on Dean’s appeal to the “youth vote.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crisis; dean; democrats; ithaca; karlrovespuppet; privatization; problems; security; social; socialsecurity; trouble
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1 posted on 02/24/2005 11:17:10 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is the part where liberals come out of the woodwork to explain that the party chairman does not set policy, he is just there to raise money.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 11:18:59 AM PST by mcg1969
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; ...

This sure isn't going to make Hillary happy.................


3 posted on 02/24/2005 11:19:22 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Dean picked up the wrong SS playbook dated 1999.


4 posted on 02/24/2005 11:19:26 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; bentfeather; gaspar; NativeNewYorker; drjimmy; Atticus; John Valentine; ...

ping


5 posted on 02/24/2005 11:19:30 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: mcg1969
This is the part where liberals come out of the woodwork to explain that the party chairman does not set policy, he is just there to raise money.

Yup, I'll be listening for that line in the news...

6 posted on 02/24/2005 11:20:33 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

WOO HOO bump!!


7 posted on 02/24/2005 11:21:19 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Dean's got a mouth that keeps on giving and giving.


8 posted on 02/24/2005 11:21:42 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

what do you know, a democrat who actually is telling the truth about SS...

A) It's broken

B) It has become a pension system which was never it's intention


9 posted on 02/24/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by misterrob
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To: demlosers; All

I think Dean is a robot controlled by Karl Rove..


10 posted on 02/24/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Have you seen today's lead Ithaca Journal article?
11 posted on 02/24/2005 11:22:59 AM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: bentfeather

LOL!

We do all know Karl engineered Dean's ascension, right?


12 posted on 02/24/2005 11:24:34 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Be sure that Dean's way to fix this involves raising taxes on everyone (under the pretense that it's for the rich).
13 posted on 02/24/2005 11:25:03 AM PST by AlGone2001 (You will never know that Jesus is all you need, until Jesus is all you've got-Mother Theresa)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

It's dishonest for any political party to say that SS is not in crisis or bordering on a crisis, when that's been the rallying cry for SS to either fix it, or keep it solvent or relevant, for as long as I've been alive. Sooner rather than later, something is going to have to be done about the problem. There is no sense waiting until the last moment.


14 posted on 02/24/2005 11:26:58 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke free since January 16, 2005)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Hey, Dean!

Trouble for Social Security if something is done!

15 posted on 02/24/2005 11:28:29 AM PST by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

DUers are going to have heart attacks! Send out the Oxygen!


16 posted on 02/24/2005 11:28:36 AM PST by areafiftyone (The Democrat's Mind: The Hamster's dead but the wheel's still spinning!)
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To: AlGone2001

That's a given, but if we pass the acknowledgment it needs to be fixed we have the upper hand. Tax hikes or tax cuts. Which will be more popular in national debate?


17 posted on 02/24/2005 11:28:40 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Semper Paratus
Dean picked up the wrong SS playbook dated 1999.

Disagree. Anyone in the Democrat party, who isn't saying what Clinton said in 1999, while at the same time, blasting what Bush has said in 2005, is a friggen hypocrite.

18 posted on 02/24/2005 11:28:48 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Smoke free since January 16, 2005)
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To: Soul Seeker
OMG had not thought about that.

Did you see Hinchey last night on Hannity and Clombs last night? What a blatant liar.
19 posted on 02/24/2005 11:29:06 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: jigsaw
Have you seen today's lead Ithaca Journal article?

You mean the "Ithaca loves Dean" puff piece? Yeah.

Just as the IJ "buried" the news of Hinchey's moonbat conspiracy rant until the blogs found out about it, it buried Dean's admission about Soc. Sec.

Those people are scum.

20 posted on 02/24/2005 11:29:50 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: Semper Paratus
Dean picked up the wrong SS playbook dated 1999.

Howard Dean just can't stay on message.

It's going to be a great four years.

21 posted on 02/24/2005 11:29:51 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Another Perfect Rovian Storm)
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To: AlGone2001
Be sure that Dean's way to fix this involves raising taxes on everyone (under the pretense that it's for the rich).

No doubt. However, Dean's admission is extremely newsworthy insofar as it contradicts a large chunk of his own party AND can be used by the President and others to demonstrate that even the DNC chair recognizes the need for SOME type of reform.

22 posted on 02/24/2005 11:32:13 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: bentfeather

I watched some of it.

He wasn't there for an interview. He was there to use the show as a infomercial for his lunatic base.


23 posted on 02/24/2005 11:32:33 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I haven't heard anyone claim that social security isn't broken, the disagreement is over the required changes. Private accounts are just but one possible fix for a broken system.


24 posted on 02/24/2005 11:35:01 AM PST by 1LongTimeLurker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Remember we are dealing with devious conniving Dems who want to move to the center and play "conservative" for a time.

Dean is the one who is supposed to appeal to younger voters. Remember internal polling drives these people and I think Dean is telegraphing a message to other lefties to don their we're as "compassionate and conservative" as President Bush.

Still think Dean will be running for President again.
25 posted on 02/24/2005 11:35:29 AM PST by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Soul Seeker

Yes, so true. Motor mouthed all the way through.


26 posted on 02/24/2005 11:36:39 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I wonder how he and his metro sexual nediot buddies in the MSM will try to revise these statements.


27 posted on 02/24/2005 11:38:18 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Soul Seeker

"We do all know Karl engineered Dean's ascension, right?"

Actually that isn't Dean, who is running the DNC. It is a Karl Rove Clone with plastic surgery and coaching in shrill screams making it look and sound like Dean.

Rove replaced the real nut with his clone during the Christmas Holidays. Halliburton financed the cloning, kidnapping and exchange of Dean.



28 posted on 02/24/2005 11:43:00 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Would you call a Karl Rove Clone a "K.R.one"?


29 posted on 02/24/2005 11:46:32 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: Grampa Dave

And the real Dean is being held at Guantánamo. LOL


30 posted on 02/24/2005 11:49:00 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This is probably the KR 100+ clone. The lunatic libs have no concept of how many KR clones have replaced their lunatic leaders.


31 posted on 02/24/2005 11:51:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: Soul Seeker

"And the real Dean is being held at Guantánamo. LOL"

Actually, the real Dean is being shuttled to and from pro America Arabic countries by the famous Haliburton Corporate Jet.


32 posted on 02/24/2005 11:53:16 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The MSM has been a WMD, Weapon of Mass Disinformation for the Rats for at least 4 decades.)
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To: OXENinFLA
This sure isn't going to make Hillary happy.................

Well Dean did say they needed to copy and talk like Newt

Just one problem he forgot

Newt is a Republican and agrees with the President .. LOL!!

33 posted on 02/24/2005 11:56:17 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"Mr. Dean....Sen. Reid on line one...."


34 posted on 02/24/2005 12:00:44 PM PST by clintonh8r
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To: clintonh8r

I hope for his own sake Howard doesn't take the Hildbeast up on her invite for a walk in the park.


35 posted on 02/24/2005 12:01:55 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Dean pointed out that…if Social Security were left alone for 30 years, its benefits would be reduced to 80 percent of what it is now.

What exactly does this mean? Does it mean that if a 65 year old is receiving $500.00/month from SS today, that a 65 year old in 30 years would receive $400.00/month, i.e. 80% of todays payment? If so, since by then a dollar will be worth about 10 cents, that would be effectively about $40.00, enough to pay the heat for one or two days.

Just wondering!

In which case the SS problem will be solved..by becomming irrelevant.

36 posted on 02/24/2005 12:04:05 PM PST by Voltage
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To: Voltage

I think it means that Dean knows the system is broke but doesn't understand why and can't admit what the real answer is.


37 posted on 02/24/2005 12:14:45 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: KevinDavis

38 posted on 02/24/2005 12:20:46 PM PST by demlosers
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To: demlosers

Hey, hey, I resent that cartoon. I believe that Mike Judge, creator of Beavis is a Republican.

;-)


39 posted on 02/24/2005 12:24:36 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: KevinDavis

I think Karl Rove implanted a chip into Dr. FrankenDean's brain and is making him say these things!


40 posted on 02/24/2005 12:28:13 PM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: mcg1969

No, he's just seeing this as a golden opportunity to raise taxes.

Let's pray Dubya doesn't play into his hands.


41 posted on 02/24/2005 12:43:27 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Redbob

I'm sure Dean sees this as a golden opportunity to raise taxes.

But Dubya needs to spin this admission and play Dean instead.


42 posted on 02/24/2005 12:57:21 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Anyone in the Democrat party, who isn't saying what Clinton said in 1999, while at the same time, blasting what Bush has said in 2005, is a friggen hypocrite.

Yep. You didn't hear any gnashing of the teeth or emotional newspaper editorials (and letters from idiots) back then. Now that there's a mean-old Republican in the WH...

43 posted on 02/24/2005 12:58:31 PM PST by ServesURight
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

....moveon.org... must have foot in mouth right now after being on FNC today bragging about no change needed....SS not in crises!


44 posted on 02/24/2005 1:03:55 PM PST by dcnd9
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
No, the one entitled "Judge rules against ``Ithaca 50'' [Says gay marriage not something for courts to decide]" that Constitutionalist Conservative posted.

(It hadn't been posted yet when I pinged you.)

45 posted on 02/24/2005 1:11:00 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
In fact, while the Cornell Sun indicated that social
security issues were a major point in Dean’s speech, other
papers, such as the Ithaca Journal and Syracuse Post Standard,
did not even cover his comments on the issue, preferring to
focus on Dean’s appeal to the “youth vote.”

It was probably too difficult for reporters from the Journal
and Post to comprehend what was being said. It's so much
easier to just watch the crowd and write your impressions.

46 posted on 02/24/2005 1:18:07 PM PST by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: jigsaw

Especially when you get to right "local color" instead of things that require understanding and thought.


47 posted on 02/24/2005 1:37:19 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines (Ann Coulter for Cornell Trustee:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1344035/posts)
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To: KevinDavis
You might be right. This was found near Rove's seat at a recent speech Dean made.

48 posted on 02/24/2005 2:04:42 PM PST by Da Mav
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Dems have pushed the self-destruct button...


49 posted on 02/24/2005 2:05:02 PM PST by RockinRight (It's NOT too early to start talking about 2006...or 2008.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"Dizzy" Dean throws out the first curve ball of the new season.


50 posted on 02/24/2005 2:20:01 PM PST by toddlintown (Oh-la-la!)
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