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'No charge' over Falluja killing
news.bbc.co.uk ^ | Thursday, 24 February, 2005

Posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:02 PM PST by dandi

A US marine filmed apparently shooting dead an injured Iraqi in a Falluja mosque last year may not be formally charged, according to media reports.

Military investigators have concluded there is not enough evidence to prosecute over the shooting, US television network CBS news says.

However, the US military said the investigation had not been completed.

"The facts of this case are being thoroughly pursued to make an informed decision," a Marine statement said.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; fallujahmarine; iraqi; marines; morehateusastuff

1 posted on 02/24/2005 6:34:03 PM PST by dandi
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To: dandi

According to an earlier report, Gen. Hagee says this guy is still being investigated. The Beeb is just trying to generate anti-American outrage that a soldier killed a murdering terrorist POS before he could kill more Americans.


2 posted on 02/24/2005 6:36:39 PM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: dandi

Apologize to that Marine, give him a cigar and send him back to work killing scumbags.


3 posted on 02/24/2005 6:38:03 PM PST by msnimje
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To: dandi
Give the marine a medal and a new car when he returns..
4 posted on 02/24/2005 6:43:00 PM PST by Fast1 (Destroy America buy Chinese goods.)
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To: Fast1

Isn't this what he was supposed to do?


5 posted on 02/24/2005 6:45:50 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: dandi

A promotion, A medal and thirty days leave! How about a bounty on all of the Terrorists!


6 posted on 02/24/2005 6:54:52 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: dandi

A promotion, A medal and thirty days leave! How about a bounty on all of the Terrorists!


7 posted on 02/24/2005 6:54:55 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Sit nomen Dómini benedíctum,Ex hoc nunc, et usque in sæculum! per ómnia saecula saeculórum)
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To: dandi

No charge? It was a freeeeeeebie!


8 posted on 02/24/2005 6:56:21 PM PST by Migraine
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To: dandi
Reported on FOX News tonight, there will be no court martial. Due to insufficient evidence.

Excellent news!

I expect the Marine will return to his unit.

Semper Fi,
Kelly
9 posted on 02/24/2005 6:57:14 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: dandi

Good.


10 posted on 02/24/2005 6:58:09 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: dandi

Praise the Lord.


11 posted on 02/24/2005 6:59:44 PM PST by Pit1
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To: dandi

HOOAH [sp]


12 posted on 02/24/2005 7:00:38 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: dandi

The MSM must be devastated.


13 posted on 02/24/2005 7:05:08 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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To: dandi

'Bout F'n time a US soldier is free to do his job....


15 posted on 02/24/2005 7:24:00 PM PST by uncitizen
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To: dandi
It's a friggin war zone folks. The terrorists were booby-trapping themselves, and blowing our troops up when they approached. That this brave soldier had to endure this injustice is a result of military bureaucrats deciding on rules of engagement. Their pencil pushing asses should be on the front lines with the troops for a tour of duty, and then by all means they can write rules of engagement. If this is what JAG is all about, they don't have enough to do.
16 posted on 02/24/2005 7:30:07 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: DustyMoment

I'm sorry to hear that, if this is they guy I've been wondering about.

We put these young kids in terrible situations, he shot someone who could have had explosives. Don't know, wasn't there, all I do know is I think he had every right to protect himself and his fellow armed forces around him. Perhaps they should just talk to the armed forces that were there with him, do they blame him? If not, then just set him free and get over it.


17 posted on 02/24/2005 7:45:33 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: kellynla

Pukes that have never walked though the site of a recent firefight --- where any of the crumpled "corpses" on the ground might still be capable of killing you, should be required to do so before being permitted to critize the actions of a young Marine doing exactly that.....

One does not approach and take neck pulses, or ignore the actual or imagined movement of a "corpse".....

Carelessness, hesitation or a mistake -- can lead to your own and your brother's death...

Semper Fi


18 posted on 02/24/2005 8:17:32 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Right again Marine.

You and I both know every thing you said is correct. The problem is that very few in the MSM ever laced up a pair of combat boots in their lives and hate the military especially the Marine Corps and everything it represents.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


19 posted on 02/24/2005 8:29:50 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: dandi

Good!
Anyone heard anything out of Sipes lately?


20 posted on 02/24/2005 8:32:07 PM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: dandi

So who is investigating the reporter who caused this Marine all this grief?


21 posted on 02/24/2005 8:35:07 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Sipes


22 posted on 02/24/2005 9:09:57 PM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: Roccus

Thanks.


23 posted on 02/24/2005 9:12:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Sorry, the first time I read it I thought you were asking who the investigative reporter was.
Past my bedtime}:^)


24 posted on 02/24/2005 9:13:14 PM PST by Roccus (Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati)
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To: kellynla
The MSM really disturbs me...but I remain confident that the Corps will survive as the brotherhood we love...

At the core, it's STILL the Corps - and will always be so.
To allow it to become otherwise, would be a horrible betrayal of brothers lost since November 10, 1775...

It ain't gonna happen, and the doubting Thomases that thought this young Marine was going to be hung out to dry -- were WRONG...

Semper Fi
25 posted on 02/24/2005 9:15:29 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Roccus

Its ok, I started to look into who 'snipes' was, as I had forgotten the name.


26 posted on 02/24/2005 9:15:48 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: conservativecorner

It might be unfair to be attacking the JAG folks.
Probably the first and last lawyer I ever trusted and respected was with the JAG...

Remember - it was the JAG lawyers that decided there should be no charges brought against this Marine..

Once the Leftist bastards started screaming for his hide -- they HAD to investigate to give his "clearing" some credibility...

Semper Fi


27 posted on 02/24/2005 9:41:31 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat
Remember - it was the JAG lawyers that decided there should be no charges brought against this Marine.

More precisely, the Marine's commander would have made the decision but with plenty of input from JAGs.

Civilians are often surprised to learn that military prosecutors, unlike district attorneys, do not have independent authority to choose which cases to prosecute. In the military, that decision is solely a prerogative of command.

28 posted on 02/24/2005 9:51:19 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

Perxactly..
Thanks for the finer points on law in the Military.
I tried to stay clear...
A brief encounter with the brig, and a "come to Jesus" conversation worked for me...

Semper Fi


29 posted on 02/24/2005 9:57:41 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: JCEccles; river rat

As a military (1978-1995) and DoD civil service (1995-present) court reporter, I can say that I would much rather have a case be investigated and examined by the chain of command and the JAG Corps than I would through civilian channels. Military JAGs are, for the most part, professionally sharp and driven individuals; the military judges are knowledgeable and fair; and I would prefer to be tried by the military justice system and a panel of my true peers than the civilian practice of a jury of deadbeats and Perry Mason-wannabees.


30 posted on 02/24/2005 10:00:03 PM PST by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsënspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmändø (EMØØK))
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To: BlueLancer

I'll amen that!

Semper Fi


31 posted on 02/24/2005 10:36:50 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

Thanks to you and everyone else who see this situation rationally and fairly. No one wants war or the tragedies that it must bring.
It's refreshing and uplifting to witness young and older Americans bravely face our obligations.


32 posted on 02/24/2005 11:03:48 PM PST by CBart95
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To: ozarkgirl

Here's the problem I have with the whole thing. John F'n Kerry gave himself a Silver Star for beaching his boat (against squadron SOP), chasing down and killing a half-naked, wounded (by the boat's .50 cal guns) Vietnamese teenager and no one sees anything wrong with it.

This guy took an action to protect his and his comrades' lives and someone thinks he should be investigated for a crime.

This is all BS.


33 posted on 02/25/2005 3:25:00 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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