Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

News4 Colorado ^ | 2/24/05 | Raj Chohan

[Fizzie]

Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question

by CBS4 News reporter Raj Chohan

Feb 24, 2005 8:03 pm US/Mountain BOULDER, Colo. (CBS4) Boulder County resident Duke Prentup has been a fan of native American art for as long as he can remember. That love of art took him to the home of Ward Churchill in the early 1980's, where Prentup bought several pieces of Churchill's art, including a serigraph titled "Winter Attack."

"I have enjoyed them ever since immensely, they're obviously up inside my house," Prentup said.

Last month came a stunning revelation, though, as as Prentup flipped through a 1972 book called The Mystic Warriors of the Plains written and illustrated by the late artist Thomas E. Mails. He found a sketch that was strikingly similar to the Churchill piece.

(Excerpt) See the rest of the article, and photo comparisons of the 2 pieces of art here: http://news4colorado.com/topstories/local_story_055200531.html

[Fizzie]

Simply stunning. This is a mirror image. Some of you gurus out there can probably figure out in 2 seconds just how it was done.

[radiohead]

Jeez. Everyday another revelation. There seems to be nothing honest about this man.

[AmishDude]

Ping!

[Texas_Jarhead]

Is there nothing about this 'man' that is not phony?

[Darkwolf377]

"There seems to be nothing honest about this man."

We can't even be so sure about the "man" part.

[hoosiermama]

VARY interesting!

[Dad yer funny]

yeah,...if ol' Ward was a cook in the Navy,he'd be over the fantail with the rest of the trash

[Howlin]

Is there ANYTHING about this guy that isn't fake?

I mean, is he a GUY?

[msnimje]

People are not frauds in only one area of their lives. This guy stands for nothing! He is nothing!

[Howlin]

LOL.....we're all thinking the same thing!

In response to continued questioning, Churchill became aggressive, pushing a handful of paperwork in front the TV camera, and soon after, swiping his arm at the crew.

It won't be long now; he's gonna blow.

[msnimje]

I mean, is he a GUY?

Maybe that is his problem. He is really a very ugly, angry, freakishly tall woman!

[MarineBrat]

Simply stunning. This is a mirror image. Some of you gurus out there can probably figure out in 2 seconds just how it was done.

Naw, it took at least three minutes!

[NormsRevenge]

It won't be long now; he's gonna blow.

(rubbing hands with glee, in anticipation, poncho at the ready)

:)

[Darkwolf377]

"It won't be long now; he's gonna blow."

LOL OK, you computer-savvy FReepers need to post a pic of Howard Beal from Network.

"I'm as mad as Hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!!!"

[peyton randolph]

A serigraph is a print made using a silk-screen process. Doubt it was difficult to use the original to make the print. Chief Fake Injun was probably running a t-shirt silk screening business on the side.

[Arkinsaw]

Jeez. Everyday another revelation. There seems to be nothing honest about this man.

How many straws are stacked up on this camel now anyway?

[Howlin]

It's that hair that made you think that, right?

He's not an Indian.

He's not a paratrooper.

Can't find his thesis.

His story about smallpox on the blankets was a lie.

He fakes pictures.

What have I forgotten?

[msnimje]

It's an original work by me, after Thomas Mails ... the fact that the purchaser was ignorant of the reality of what was perfectly publicly stated at the time the edition was printed is not my responsibility," Churchill said.

Do you believe that sH*t?

[supercat]

A serigraph is a print made using a silk-screen process. Doubt it was difficult to use the original to make the print. Chief Fake Injun was probably running a t-shirt silk screening business on the side.

On which side of the silk does one draw the image?

[Howlin]

Norm, I did find out one GREAT thing about him today...........guess who hired him........you'll never, ever guess, so I'll tell you.

You're just gonna love it!











Mary Frances Berry!!!!!

[Fizzie]

Yikes, MarineBrat! Not bad, not bad at all...

[Dad yer funny]

yeah,...ol' Ward's got the VW camper all packed,...Bellingham,and then across

[Howlin]

LOL!

[msnimje]

What have I forgotten?

No proof of penis?

[river rat]

Enough to have the bastard called out into the street - and whip his ass raw..

Semper Fi

[Billthedrill]

"It's an original work by me, after Thomas Mails ..."

"Original?" In what sense is this "original?"

Semit fo tsrow eht saw ti, semit fo tseb eht saw ti. - that there is an original sentence by me, after Dickens. Jeezelouise...

[Petronski]

OMG!

He's done.





Pull the fries, the alarm is chiming. His taters are done.

[Howlin]

LOL.......okay, I'm DYING laughing now.

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

There seems to be nothing honest about this man.

I disagree. He seems to be an honest to goodness con man.

[msnimje]

"Original?" In what sense is this "original?"

It is the first generation forgery. It is the original forgery.

[Texas_Jarhead]

"Mary Frances Berry!!!!!"

WHAT? Please elucidate...

[Howlin]

LOL!

[Fizzie]

Your post #26 is a classic, Billthedrill. LMAO

[Texas_Jarhead]

lol!

[Petronski]

"Psycho Ward" Churchill is mad as hell and
he's not going to take it anymore.

He won't have to...

[NormsRevenge]

Wow!! Thnaks!

He runs with some pretty vile folks.. LOL

maybe he copied some of her works, too?

http://www.history.upenn.edu/faculty/berry.htm



Mary Frances Berry has been the Geraldine R. Segal Professor of American Social Thought and Professor of History since 1987. She received her Ph.D.
in History from the University of Michigan and JD from the University of Michigan Law School. She is the author of seven books, including The Pig Farmer's Daugher(sic) and Other Tales of American Justice: Episodes of Racism
and Sexism in the Courts from 1865 to the Present (1999); Black Resistance, White Law: A History of Constitutional Racism in America (1994, orig. 1971); The Politics of Parenthood: Child Care, Women's Rights, and the Myth
of the Good Mother (1993); Why ERA Failed: Politics, Women's Rights, and the Amending Process of the Constitution (1986); Long Memory: The Black
Experience in America, with John Blassingame (1982); and Military Necessity and Civil Rights Policy: Black Citizenship and the Constitution, 1861-1868 (1977).

[Darkwolf377]

LOL!!!

Awesome, thanks. Peter Finch actually LOOKS a little like him. And was about as American as he is...

[peyton randolph]

I've never done silk-screening before.

Here is a set of pics that shows how it is done.

[Walkingfeather]

I have been saying from the start he is going to have everyone digging into his background... and boy this will be it.

[Petronski]

I keep that image handy for Bill O'Reilly threads....

[BradyLS]

The guy is shameless. The original artist definitely has grounds for a suit. It's pretty obvious that Churchill simply traced over the orginal art and filled in the finer details so that it would reproduce easily through the seriagraph (silk screen printing) process. The mirror image aspect was probably a result of placing the tracing face-down directly on the screen when the emulsion was burned.

[Howlin]

Yep....yep:

In 1976, Berry became chancellor of the University of Colorado, the first African American woman to hold that post at a major research university. (Till 1980, I think!)


Ain't life GRAND???????

[radiohead]

He seems to be an honest to goodness con man.

You got me there, tho I am also inclined to agree w/those who are doubting Churchill's manhood.

[Ramius]

"It's an original work by me, after Thomas Mails ... the fact that the purchaser was ignorant of the reality of what was perfectly publicly stated at the time the edition was printed is not my responsibility," Churchill said.

Game. Set. Match.

[beyond the sea]

It won't be long now; he's gonna blow.

I agree. This guy is ready to erupt.

He reminds me of Renee Richards who was a man turned into a woman who sued the Tennis establishment to play years ago. One strange human he is.

[BradyLS]

What have I forgotten?

He does work for the People of Colorado since he draws his tenure from a public account.

[beyond the sea]

Ping!

LOL! We'll get to the bottom of this.

;-)

[Darkwolf377]

You must keep Ted Baxter images handy for Keith Olberman threads.

[Petronski]

[beerspew]