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Churchill Art Piece Called Into Question
News4 Colorado ^ | 2/24/05 | Raj Chohan

Posted on 02/24/2005 10:19:19 PM PST by Fizzie

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To: Darkwolf377

I keep that image handy for Bill O'Reilly threads....


41 posted on 02/24/2005 10:43:26 PM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: MarineBrat

The guy is shameless. The original artist definitely has grounds for a suit. It's pretty obvious that Churchill simply traced over the orginal art and filled in the finer details so that it would reproduce easily through the seriagraph (silk screen printing) process. The mirror image aspect was probably a result of placing the tracing face-down directly on the screen when the emulsion was burned.


42 posted on 02/24/2005 10:43:58 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Texas_Jarhead

Yep....yep:

In 1976, Berry became chancellor of the University of Colorado, the first African American woman to hold that post at a major research university. (Till 1980, I think!)


Ain't life GRAND???????


43 posted on 02/24/2005 10:43:59 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
He seems to be an honest to goodness con man.

You got me there, tho I am also inclined to agree w/those who are doubting Churchill's manhood.

44 posted on 02/24/2005 10:44:12 PM PST by radiohead (revote in washington state)
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To: Fizzie
"It's an original work by me, after Thomas Mails ... the fact that the purchaser was ignorant of the reality of what was perfectly publicly stated at the time the edition was printed is not my responsibility," Churchill said.

Game. Set. Match.

45 posted on 02/24/2005 10:44:12 PM PST by Ramius (Why are there no rhetorical answers? They don't even require a question...)
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To: Howlin
It won't be long now; he's gonna blow.

I agree. This guy is ready to erupt.

He reminds me of Renee Richards who was a man turned into a woman who sued the Tennis establishment to play years ago. One strange human he is.

46 posted on 02/24/2005 10:44:38 PM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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To: Howlin
What have I forgotten?

He does work for the People of Colorado since he draws his tenure from a public account.

47 posted on 02/24/2005 10:45:59 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: AmishDude
Ping!

LOL! We'll get to the bottom of this.

;-)

48 posted on 02/24/2005 10:46:44 PM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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To: Petronski

You must keep Ted Baxter images handy for Keith Olberman threads.


49 posted on 02/24/2005 10:48:02 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Individuality)
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To: Darkwolf377

[beerspew]


50 posted on 02/24/2005 10:48:52 PM PST by Petronski (Zebras: Free Range Bar Codes of the Serengeti)
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To: peyton randolph

Peyton, you gave me an idea. I Googled Churchill and silkscreen, and the work of "art" is on Ebay!

Quick, someone capture it before it goes down. I am good at some things, but this ain't it...

http://cgi.tw.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=360&item=7301790643&rd=1


51 posted on 02/24/2005 10:49:27 PM PST by Fizzie
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To: radiohead
OK then, how about, "an honest to goodness con artist"?

Nyuk nyuk!

52 posted on 02/24/2005 10:49:42 PM PST by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (The heart of the wise man inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. - Eccl. 10:2)
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To: Howlin

LOL you beat me to it. You might want to save the page to your hard drive, too, for posterity.


54 posted on 02/24/2005 10:55:45 PM PST by Blue Champagne
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To: Howlin

you are good, Howlin! Thanks.

For what it's worth, the site had all those weird characters on it when I went there too. Wonder when it went up for sale? And who is selling? The guy in the News4 story, Prentup?


55 posted on 02/24/2005 10:56:00 PM PST by Fizzie
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To: Dad yer funny; Texas_Jarhead; Fizzie; radiohead; Billthedrill; Petronski; ...
if ol' Ward was a cook in the Navy,he'd be over the fantail with the rest of the trash

http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/newswire/news2005/0205/021105-ward-churchill.htm

DENVER—An exhaustive investigation by Bob Newman of Newsradio 850 KOA (Denver), who is also a frequent guest military & terrorism analyst on the FOX News Channel and a Men's News Daily columnist, into the genuine Vietnam service record of radical University of Colorado Professor Ward Churchill, has revealed that Churchill’s claimed combat experience is in direct contradiction to his official military records.

After a confidential source provided Mr. Newman with documents pertaining to Professor Churchill’s military service and his employment at the University of Colorado, Mr. Newman began an investigation into the documents’ authenticity.

Using his own sources and calling upon the investigative skills of FOX News Channel’s Rita Cosby, Mr. Newman was able to verify that Professor Churchill, despite his public claim (in a 1987 Denver Post interview) of having been a paratrooper (Airborne qualified) who conducted long-range reconnaissance patrols (LRRPs; extremely dangerous missions conducted by some of the most elite soldiers in the US Army) hunting North Vietnamese in Vietnam during and after the Tet Offensive of 1968, and despite his claim that he was a point man in an infantry combat unit, was in fact trained only as a jeep driver and projectionist (he was trained to operate film-strip machines and movie projectors), according to official documentation from the National Personnel Records Center, the US repository for military records.

Denver attorneys Dan Caplis and Craig Silverman, both colleagues of Mr. Newman at Clear Channel Colorado, then acquired Professor Churchill’s original resume that resulted in his being hired by the University of Colorado. That resume matched exactly the resume Gunny Bob had acquired from his confidential source. On that resume, Professor Churchill cited no combat experience whatsoever, no Airborne training, no infantry training or experience and no winning of the Combat Infantry Badge. Instead, it said his experience in Vietnam consisted of his duties as a “Public Information Specialist,” as which he “wrote and edited the battalion newsletter and wrote news releases.”

Verification of Professor Churchill’s real Vietnam service record was completed with the direct assistance of the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis.

Gunny Bob notes that in the same 1987 Denver Post report, Professor Churchill admitted to being a bomb-building and weapons instructor for the Weather Underground, a domestic terrorist group active in the 1970s.

56 posted on 02/24/2005 10:56:16 PM PST by beyond the sea (Barbara Boxer is Barbra Streisand on peyote .....)
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57 posted on 02/24/2005 10:59:01 PM PST by Howlin (Free the Eason Jordan Tape!!!)
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58 posted on 02/24/2005 10:59:14 PM PST by Dad yer funny
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59 posted on 02/24/2005 10:59:45 PM PST by BJungNan (B is da B, Jung is True. Nan is Man)
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To: msnimje
It's an original work by me, after Thomas Mails ... the fact that the purchaser was ignorant of the reality of what was perfectly publicly stated at the time the edition was printed is not my responsibility," Churchill said.

How hard is it to superimpose them? Is anything beyond a single linear transform necessary to make almost everything 'fit'? If the thing were merely eyeballed off the original, it might have some merit (though unless the original was in the public domain or he had permission of the original artist, that would still be a no-no). But the photos don't make me think he even did that.

60 posted on 02/24/2005 11:00:19 PM PST by supercat (For Florida officials to be free of the Albatross, they should let it fly away.)
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