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The global warming scam
Asia Times ^ | 02.25.05 | Derek Kelly, PhD

Posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:42 AM PST by Dr. Marten

The global warming scam
By Derek Kelly, PhD

Scam, noun: a swindle, a fraudulent arrangement.

A chronology of climate change
During most of the last billion years the Earth did not have permanent ice sheets. Nevertheless, at times large areas of the globe were covered with vast sheets of ice. Such times are known as glaciations. In the past 2 million to 3 million years, the temperature of the Earth has changed (warmed or cooled) at least 17 times, some say 33, with glaciations that last about 100,000 years interrupted by warm periods that last about 10,000 years.

The last glaciation began 70,000 years ago and ended about 10,000 years ago. The Earth was a lot colder than it is now; snow and ice had accumulated on a lot of the land, glaciers existed on large areas and the sea levels were lower.

15,000 years ago: The last glaciation reaches a peak, with continental glaciers that cover a lot of the sub-polar and polar areas of the land areas of Earth. In North America, all of New England and all of the Great Lakes area, most of Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota and the North Dakotas, lie under ice sheets hundreds of meters thick. More than 37 million cubic kilometers of ice was tied up in these global sheets of ice. The average temperature on the surface of the Earth is estimated to have been cooler by approximately 6 degrees Celsius than currently. The sea level was more than 90 meters lower than currently.

15,000 years ago to 6,000 years ago: Global warming begins. The sheets of ice melt, and sea levels rise. Some heat source causes approximately 37 million cubic kilometers of ice to melt in approximately 9,000 years. Around 9,500 years ago, the last of the Northern European sheets of ice leave Scandinavia. Around 7,500 years ago, the last of the American sheets of ice leave Canada. This warming is neither stable nor the same everywhere. There are periods when mountain glaciers advance, and periods when they withdraw. These climatic changes vary extensively from place to place, with some areas affected while others are not. The tendency of warming is global and obvious, but very uneven. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.

8,000 years ago to 4,000 years ago: About 6,000 years ago, temperatures on the surface of Earth are about 3 degrees warmer than currently. The Arctic Ocean is ice-free, and mountain glaciers have disappeared from the mountains of Norway and the Alps in Europe, and from the Rocky Mountains of the United States and Canada. The ocean of the world is some three meters higher than currently. A lot of the present desert of the Sahara has a more humid, savannah-like climate, with giraffes and savannah fauna species.

4,000 years ago to AD 900: Global cooling begins. The Arctic Ocean freezes over, mountain glaciers form once more in the Rocky Mountains, in Norway and in the Alps. The Black Sea freezes over several times, and ice forms on the Nile in Egypt. Northern Europe gets a lot wetter, and the marshes develop again in previously dry areas. The sea level drops to approximately its present level. The temperatures on the surface of the Earth are about 0.5-1 degree cooler than at present. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.

AD 1000 to 1500: This period has quick, but uneven, warming of the climate of the Northern Hemisphere. The North Atlantic becomes ice-free and Norse exploration as far as North America takes place. The Norse colonies in Greenland even export crop surpluses to Scandinavia. Wine grapes grow in southern Britain. The temperatures are from 3-8 degrees warmer than currently. The period lasts only a brief 500 years. By the year 1500, it has vanished. The Earth experiences as much warming between the 11th and the 13th century as is now predicted by global-warming scientists for the next century. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.

1430 to 1880: This is a period of the fast but uneven cooling of Northern Hemisphere climates. Norwegian glaciers advance to their most distant extension in post-glacial times. The northern forests disappear, to be replaced with tundra. Severe winters characterize a lot of Europe and North America. The channels and rivers get colder, the snows get heavy, and the summers cool and short. The temperatures on the surface of the world are about 0.5-1.5 degrees cooler than present. In the United States, 1816 is known as the "year with no summer". Snow falls in New England in June. The widespread failure of crops and deaths due to hypothermia are common. The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.

1880 to 1940: A period of warming. The mountain glaciers recede and the ice in the Arctic Ocean begins to melt again. The causes of this period of warming are unknown.

1940 to 1977: Cooling period. The temperatures are cooler than currently. Mountain glaciers recede, and some begin to advance. The tabloids inform us of widespread catastrophes due to the "New Glaciation". The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.

1977 to present: Warming period. The summer of 2003 is said to be the warmest one since the Middle Ages. The tabloids notify us of widespread catastrophes due to "global warming". The causes of warming are discovered - humanity and its carbon-dioxide-generating fossil-fuel use and deforestation.

Anyone else find something fishy about the final sentence?

Comments
The above chronology of recent (geologically speaking) climate changes should place global-warming catastrophists (such as those who developed the Kyoto treaty) in an awkward position. Their fundamental assumption is that Earth's climate was stable and was doing just fine before the Industrial Revolution started interfering with climate's "natural" state. It is the Industrial Revolution, and in particular the use of fossil-fuel-burning machines, that has led us to the brink of environmental catastrophe due to global warming caused by increasing amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere.

But it is plain to see that both warming and cooling occurred numerous times before the Industrial Revolution. Similarly, all the dire predictions of global-warming consequences - sea-level rise, for example - have happened in the past. In fact, the greatest warming period was when dinosaurs walked the land (about 70 million to 130 million years ago). There was then five to 10 times as much CO2 in the atmosphere as there is today, and the average temperature was 4-11 degrees Celsius warmer. Those conditions should have been very helpful to life, since they permitted those immense creatures to find an abundance of food and they survived.

The Cretaceous was an intense "greenhouse world" with high surface temperatures. These high temperatures were due to the much higher level of CO2 in the atmosphere at the time - four to 10 times as much as is in our air today. The biota was a mixture of the exotic and familiar - luxuriant green forests of now-extinct trees flourished within the Arctic Circle and dinosaurs roamed. The global sea level was at its highest ever during this period, peaking during the Late Cretaceous around 86 million years ago. It is certain that the global sea level was well over 200 meters higher during this time than it is today. The Earth was immensely hotter, the CO2 vastly more plentiful, and the sea levels much higher than they are today.

The Earth has also been immensely colder, the CO2 much less plentiful, and the sea levels much lower than today. Fifteen thousand years ago, the sea level was at least 90 meters lower than it is today. The land looked bare because it was too cold for beech and oak trees to grow. There were a few fir trees here and there. No grass grew, however, just shrubs, bushes and moss grass. In the northern parts of North America, Europe and Asia there was still tundra. The animals were different from today too. Back then there were woolly mammoth, woolly rhinos, cave bears (the former three now extinct), bison, wolves, horses, and herds of reindeer like modern-day reindeer.

The major "sin" for the global warmists is CO2. The Kyoto treaty is meant to reduce the amount of this gas so as, they say, to reduce the degree of warming and eventually return us to some stable climate system. If we look at the historical situation, however, this is cause for alarm. For one thing, there has never been a stable climate system. For another, the level of CO2 in our atmosphere is near its historic low. In the long run, the greatest danger is too little rather than too much CO2. There has been a long-term reduction of CO2 throughout the 4.5-billion-year history of the Earth. If this tendency continues, eventually our planet may become as lifeless as Mars.

Glaciation has prevailed for 90% of the last several million years. Extreme cold. Biting cold. Cold too intense for bikinis and swimming trunks. No matter what scary scenarios global-warming enthusiasts dream up, they pale in comparison with the conditions another ice age would deliver. Look to our past climate. Fifteen thousand years ago, an ice sheet a kilometer and a half thick covered all of North America north of a line stretching from somewhere around Seattle to Cleveland and New York City.

Instead of reducing CO2, we should, perhaps, be increasing it. We should pay the smokestack industries hard dollars for every kilogram of soot they pump into the atmosphere. Instead of urging Chinese to stop using coal and turn instead to nuclear-generated electricity, we should beg them to continue using coal. Rather than bringing us to the edge of global-warming catastrophe, anthropogenic climate change may have spared us descent into what would be the most serious and far-reaching challenge facing humankind in the 21st century - dealing with a rapidly deteriorating climate that wants to plunge us into an ice age. Let's hope Antarctica and Greenland melt. Let's hope the sea levels rise. All life glorifies warmth. Only death prefers the icy fingers of endless winter.

What do you think?

Derek Kelly, who has been an American university teacher and a computer-software developer, is now trying to help Chinese university students speak English.


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To: Protagoras
So you are another cult member who says dinosaurs and Jesus were around at the same time?

I never said that. The dinosaurs you talk of were destroyed in the flood. That pesky little flood that killed every living thing. It lasted 40 days. But, since a day is only symbolic I wonder how long the flood really lasted? sarcasm off/

I don't pretend to believe. I do believe. God and man's observations don't have to be exclusive. But, if man's observations don't line up with what the Bible says than I go with God. I think that if you look, there are many Jewish and Christian scholars that believe creation happened just as the Bible says, and the world is only thousands of years old. Just because you can't wrap your mind around it doesn't mean it didn't happen or it isn't so. Why must men put a limit on God's power?

I am not going to debate this anymore, because it is obvious that you will not change my mind, and I will not change yours. First time I have been told I was in a cult, though. That is always fun.

But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise. 1 Corinthians 1:27
81 posted on 02/28/2005 5:12:45 AM PST by bizeemommie
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To: taxesareforever

By you response I thoght you were a member of a church even more whacked out than that cult. Although it would be hard to find one more whacked out.


82 posted on 02/28/2005 6:08:06 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: taxesareforever

83 posted on 02/28/2005 6:19:46 AM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: taxesareforever
I don't call it a cult, but I do call it Christianity.

Nothing in the Christian Bible speaks of the age of the earth. The Jewish Bible does, but not the Christian one. Do you eat pork? Do you carry out animal sacrifices on the alter?

84 posted on 02/28/2005 6:42:36 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: taxesareforever
Name a Christian group which says the earth is millions of years old.

I'm a Baptist and my church does not take a stand on the age of the earth. "Render unto Caesar those things that are Caesar's and render unto God those things that are God's." My church deals with the salvation of my soul, not scientific doctrine. That's for the scientists. My faith remains strong.

85 posted on 02/28/2005 6:45:58 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: bizeemommie
I believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/inconsistencies.shtml

Just a sampling:

NU 25:9 24,000 died in the plague.
1CO 10:8 23,000 died in the plague.

1KI 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.
2CH 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir.

1KI 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign.
2CH 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign.

1CH 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel.
ER 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel.


86 posted on 02/28/2005 6:55:01 AM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Dr. Marten
The author has not read all of the circular reasoning from our global warming alarmists... global warming = ice age For a great example of this see the "well researched" enviro-epic "The Day after Tomorrow". There is no ground to stand on in this debate. Like John Kerry the leaders of this hoax have claimed proof from every possible direction.
87 posted on 02/28/2005 7:34:28 AM PST by hford02 (I have to rig my quota of black box voting machines for the 2006 midterms.)
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To: Protagoras

By you response I thoght you were a member of a church even more whacked out than that cult.

And what response would have led you to think that?


88 posted on 02/28/2005 12:35:58 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever

89 posted on 02/28/2005 12:38:56 PM PST by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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To: FreedomCalls

Nothing in the Christian Bible speaks of the age of the earth. The Jewish Bible does, but not the Christian one. Do you eat pork? Do you carry out animal sacrifices on the alter?

Wow! Nothing like reinventing the Bible. If you were to study the Bible you would realize that Jesus Christ satisfied ALL the sacrifices in the Old Testament by this suffering and death.

Nothing in the Bible speaks of an unborn embryo either. So I guess you consider pro-choice a logical choice.


90 posted on 02/28/2005 12:41:19 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: Fredgoblu
the temperature on our planet has an awful lot to do with that thing in the sky that we call the Sun!

Only surface temperature. Earth radiates more heat than it receives from the sun.

91 posted on 02/28/2005 12:41:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: taxesareforever
If you were to study the Bible you would realize that Jesus Christ satisfied ALL the sacrifices in the Old Testament by this suffering and death.

What does eating pork have to do with Jesus' sacrifice and death? Are you saying that because of his sacrifice we no longer have to worry about cleanliness and dietary laws? Do you follow the strictures of Leviticus or not? If it's the unerring mandated word or God, then why do you ignore His commands?

Nothing in the Bible speaks of an unborn embryo either.

Yes it does. Read Romans 13:9.

92 posted on 02/28/2005 4:23:05 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

What does eating pork have to do with Jesus' sacrifice and death? Are you saying that because of his sacrifice we no longer have to worry about cleanliness and dietary laws? Do you follow the strictures of Leviticus or not? If it's the unerring mandated word or God, then why do you ignore His commands?

Welcome to the real world. Do you really think that you are judged by Christ on cleanliness and dietary laws? If you do, you do not accept the belief that Christ's suffering and death was the cure for the law in the Old Testament. Check out Romans 10:4-13.

As for Romans 13:9 referring to an embryo,I did not see the word embryo there. Are you now basing the killing of an embryo by referring to another portion of Scripture which you have not provided? How unique. Scripture proving Scripture and not science proving Scripture.


93 posted on 02/28/2005 7:45:53 PM PST by taxesareforever
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To: farmfriend; calcowgirl; All

"Global Warming" -- MORE "PROOF" !!!

"A person in Sapporo stands beside a snow sculpture of Nagoya
Castle. Heavy snow since December has killed 61 people across
Japan, making it the deadliest winter in nearly two decades,
with most of the victims elderly people who slipped shoveling snow
off their roofs."
(AFP/File/Toru Yamanaka)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/050228/photos_sc_afp/050228122655_1yvoinjm_photo0&e=8&ncid=1756

"...deadliest winter in nearly two decades." (!!!)

Note: Emphasis added, but no editing needed - the text is straight from Yahoo. (Click the link !!!)

   

94 posted on 02/28/2005 10:06:28 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves."-Wm. Hazlitt)
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To: Seadog Bytes

If you look real hard you can see Al Gore looking out one of the windows.


95 posted on 03/01/2005 10:04:38 PM PST by taxesareforever
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Greenland Ice Cap Is Melting, Raising Sea Level
Source: The Associated Press
Published: Jul 20, 2000 - 04:05 PM Author: By Paul Recer
Posted on 07/20/2000 14:37:50 PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3977712e1941.htm


96 posted on 04/02/2006 1:43:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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oldies:

Global warming doubles rate of ocean rise
Eurek Alert | 11.24.05 | Carl Blesch
Posted on 12/31/2005 9:28:17 PM EST by Coleus
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1550023/posts


97 posted on 11/02/2006 5:50:34 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Dhimmicrati delenda est! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dr. Marten
It's nice to read a little common sense once in a while. I just wish the Lefties out there could stop the fear mongering and lies and actually look at all the science involved. Maybe listen to a few Climatologists.

They tell us Kyoto is the only way to save the planet. I don't understand how Western Countries continuing to pollute at their current rate, and paying "thrid world" countries, and china, billions of dollars to continue to pollute at their low rates, is going to help anything.

The reason the Environment issue is being forced down our throats at this time is because if we institute Kyoto now, when the cooling phase starts in 2012-2015 due to the reduction of sun spots, the lefties will claim they were right all along and Kyoto was the way to fix worlds problems. It will also be around the same time that China would be expected to join, but since things will be running so well at that point, I guarantee you china will be allowed to abstain for a further substantial amount of time.

I agree we have environment problems, but Kyoto, and the Global Warming proaganda is not going to help them. In Canada and the USA we need to clean up our water, clean up smog, and clean up other air pollution that is causing terrible asthama and allergies.
98 posted on 01/25/2007 11:17:44 AM PST by gralph17
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To: Protagoras
ok if the earth is only 10 thousand yrs old . please explain dinosaurs when there's evidence like plateosaurs 200million yrs ago ? just a question.
99 posted on 09/16/2007 11:42:19 AM PDT by djominous
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Well, call me a real cinic, but I dont believe ANYBODY, the author of this post of the scientists and environmentalists know anything at all..

I am a statistician, and unless you have a lot, and I mean a lot of data without any assumptions you cannot really prove anything.

The government is so keen to jump on this as its just a way of making more and more tax money. The most grating thing is that all of the “uneducated” people buy into this tosh and accept “green taxes” as a good thing. There are alternative fuels in abundance that produce less Co2 and are replenishable, however OPEC buy all the patents to prevent new entrants into their market so they can price fix oil even more.

My global warming prediction is as follows:

Tax on fuel goes to $8 (£4) per litre within 10 years on the back of oil shortages and green tax.
A new replenishable fuel will be brought out as people get past breaking point, this fuel will be taxed at $6 (£3) per litre and we will all gobble it up as its so much cheaper. But in the end the goverments and OPEC will rake the money in. Its got nothing whatsoever to do with climate.

If it was really that big a problem, do you not think embargo’s would be placed on Chinese and Indian products unless they reduce their Co2 output.

didnt I hear that Cows make more tonnage of Co2 than motors cars in the UK ? and we have a very small agriculture industry too !!!


100 posted on 10/07/2007 11:11:56 AM PDT by Skeete
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