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1 posted on 02/25/2005 12:02:43 AM PST by Dr. Marten
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Doc, this is a truly GREAT post. This is a great one by all measures. I love that line about "we should be paying the Chinese to burn coal." Lol.....that is really funny because of its ring of truth and classic irony. I agree with the author that global cooling is a much greater danger than global warming. IIRC, there was a very cold century not too long ago when a large percentage of the European population died from hunger and disease brought on by the cold. I think it was the 15th century.

The science behind the global warming theory is really weak as I've stated numerous times on FR. It's all based on inadequately research assumptions that are used by elaborate computer models which crank out essentially meaningless forecasts. The forecasts are meaningless because they are based on soft, unproven assumptions. One factor the forecasters always seem to forget is that the rate of any chemical reaction increases with concentration of the reactants. Therefore, the more CO2 we add to he atmopshere, the faster plants consume CO2 in photosynthesis reactions and the faster the CO2 reacts with compounds in the soil.

The effect of C02 on temperature is also highly debateable. Just a few months ago, I heard about new research indicating that CO2 helps to radiate heat AWAY from the earth in the upper atmosphere. The global warming theory is just classic bureaucratic group think--people in government supported organizations believe in global warming because this expressed belief is good for their careers and their department budgets. I've never seen a better example of mass stupidity by smart people than the "consensus" that global warming is actually happening and it is caused by increasing CO2 levels.

2 posted on 02/25/2005 12:22:11 AM PST by carl in alaska (Blog blog bloggin' on heaven's door.....Kerry is a liar and rotten to the core)
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I don't believe in a 2 to 3 million or older earth but this guy makes sense about global climate change. Can't say the same for those who claim we are heading into doomsday from global warming.


3 posted on 02/25/2005 12:24:49 AM PST by taxesareforever
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Environment


4 posted on 02/25/2005 12:33:46 AM PST by Brian328i
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See this for another good piece on the scam ( Fonts are large ):

PERSPECTIVES: RISING CO2 LEVELS - THE REASON WHY ~~The earth has a cycle

And this web site:

Not by Fire but by Ice
THE NEXT ICE AGE - NOW!

5 posted on 02/25/2005 12:35:45 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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bump good post. Thanks for the info.


6 posted on 02/25/2005 12:39:23 AM PST by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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The "green" fanatics may be able to fool a majority of the public however they will never be able to fool Mother Nature.

Mother Nature has her own agenda and is not in a position to have to kowtow to human intervention! ; )

8 posted on 02/25/2005 1:02:37 AM PST by EGPWS
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1940 to 1977: Cooling period. The temperatures are cooler than currently. Mountain glaciers recede, and some begin to advance. The tabloids inform us of widespread catastrophes due to the "New Glaciation". The causes of this period of cooling are unknown.

One of those "tabloids" was the Weekly Reader. They had a picture with vast tundras and two domed cities miles apart.

Scared the Hell out of me when I saw that. Scared me so much that when this "Global Warming(TM)" fad started, it caused me to question everything I was ever taught in the public school system.

I don't believe a word of anything unless I can prove it too myself. If I can't prove, for example, Big Bang, then it isn't important enough to worry about.

Seems to me, unless you are a scientist, you have to take almost any thing an alleged expert says on faith.

I simply don't have that much faith.

9 posted on 02/25/2005 2:13:24 AM PST by Duke Nukum (King had to write, to sing the song of Gan. And I had to read. How else could Roland find the Tower?)
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bttt


12 posted on 02/25/2005 4:47:06 AM PST by secret garden (Go Spurs Go!)
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What do you think?

I dunno...call me crazy...but I'm thinking the temperature on our planet has an awful lot to do with that thing in the sky that we call the Sun! The way these people talk, you'd think that the Sun was a constant.

If these people really wanted to isolate CO2 as the culprit, they'd first need to do an energy balance on the whole, and weed out any variability from bigger contributors like the Sun. Draw a box around the Earth and find out how much of the Sun's energy hits the earth in a given year. It ain't gonna be constant: the sun experiences cycles; some years it burns hotter than others. You've got to eliminate this variability from the equation before we can talk about such minor causes as fossil fuels.

16 posted on 02/25/2005 6:27:06 AM PST by Fredgoblu
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[ Anyone else find something fishy about the final sentence? ]

I do....
Obviously the author believes republicans will only remember, after reading all that, the last sentence and democrats will only remember the last half of the last sentence..

Pretty sneaky.. them left wing scientologists.. The follow up expected is on the dread poison di-hydrogen oxide.. It'll kill you if you get too much of it.. and it is also produced by them pesky glaciers melting..

27 posted on 02/25/2005 11:26:37 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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bookmarking


43 posted on 02/25/2005 1:04:05 PM PST by riri
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It's so warm, I'm freezing. I just scraped one inch of global warming off of my car's windshield.


48 posted on 02/25/2005 2:48:13 PM PST by corlorde (Without the home of the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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Amusing that the global-warming naysayers don't realize how negative such thinking is.... it basically says, "we don't have any effect, so we can't stop the climate change that's occurring!"


50 posted on 02/25/2005 6:27:26 PM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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bump


51 posted on 02/25/2005 6:29:08 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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ping in case you have not seen this.


54 posted on 02/25/2005 7:38:18 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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bump for a later read


57 posted on 02/25/2005 10:21:26 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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The Norse colonies in Greenland even export crop surpluses to Scandinavia.

Global warming alarmists should spend a year trying to grow crops and tend domestic animals amid these Viking ruins in Greenland, and then report back to us about how the global temperature is higher now than it ever has been.


64 posted on 02/26/2005 10:55:46 AM PST by Plutarch
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"all of New England and all of the Great Lakes area, most of Ohio, Indiana, Minnesota and the North Dakotas, lie under ice sheets hundreds of meters thick. More than 37 million cubic kilometers of ice was tied up in these global sheets of ice. The average temperature on the surface of the Earth is estimated to have been cooler by approximately 6 degrees Celsius than currently. The sea level was more than 90 meters lower than currently."

The watermellons would want this state preserved if that's what the present conditions were.

74 posted on 02/27/2005 10:27:51 AM PST by spunkets
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Look there is no global warming, okay? I'm in NJ and it snows here everyday. Last eummer, it only reached 90+ degrees briefly in early June and then we never saw that climate again. Did I mention it snows here everyday?


76 posted on 02/27/2005 6:52:37 PM PST by RepubMommy
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The author has not read all of the circular reasoning from our global warming alarmists... global warming = ice age For a great example of this see the "well researched" enviro-epic "The Day after Tomorrow". There is no ground to stand on in this debate. Like John Kerry the leaders of this hoax have claimed proof from every possible direction.
87 posted on 02/28/2005 7:34:28 AM PST by hford02 (I have to rig my quota of black box voting machines for the 2006 midterms.)
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