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Posted on 02/26/2005 2:38:04 PM PST by NYer
A Republican lawmaker in Maine has introduced a bill to prohibit abortions based on the sexual orientation of the unborn baby.
State Rep. Brian Duprey wants the Legislature to forbid a woman from ending a pregnancy because the fetus is homosexual.
He said the bill looks into the future in case scientists find what he described as a "homosexual gene."
"I have heard from women who told me that if they found out that they were carrying a child with the gay gene, then they would abort. I think this is wrong," said Duprey, who got the idea while listening to the Rush Limbaugh Show.
But some lawmakers say Duprey is neither interested in creating new policy to protect gays and lesbians nor seriously discussing the issue of abortion. The bill, they say, is a way of forcing some lawmakers to choose between abortion rights and gay rights.
"It will be seen as some kind of political gamesmanship," said House Majority Leader Glenn Cummings, D-Portland.
Last month, Duprey drew attention to the issue of gay rights when he proposed a bill to legalize same-sex marriages even though opposing it himself.
The Baldacci administration and homosexual activists questioned Duprey's motivation. They said the bill disrespected the legislative process and prevented them from having time to build support for the issue.
Senate Minority Leader Paul Davis, R-Sangerville, questioned the bill's premise. "You cannot test for it," he said.
After seeing the proposed legislation, Senate President Beth Edmonds, D-Freeport, and Cummings called Duprey's efforts disingenuous. They questioned why he has opposed gay rights legislation protecting adults while pushing for legislation protecting those not yet born.
"It is just something to get him press time. It is not a realistic proposal," Edmonds said.
Duprey said: "Technology is changing every day. They could map the homosexual gene tomorrow."
A spokesman for the governor's office told the Portland Press Herald the administration will review Duprey's bill but declined to comment on it.
Duprey, an opponent of abortion, said he believes support will grow for the measure, though he has no co-sponsors.
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A few words to him, put the crack pipe away.
Pro-Life Homosexual Ping! .... lol
All I can say is thank the Lord, it's about time.
Naw, his strategy is to sandbag the liberal groups who wouldn't dare oppose the act. His next step will be to outlaw all abortion, IMHO.
There are pro-life homosexuals? I have now lived long enough to see it all :-)
It always happens when he's out of the country. I'm sure he'll have a field day of amusement with this when he gets back.
Why?
Rush will have a field day with this.
What's wrong with the Bill?
"There are pro-life homosexuals"
Only where pre-born gays are concerned. There doesn't seem to be any concern about pre-born heterosexuals.
also........."I have heard from women who told me that if they found out that they were carrying a child with the gay gene, then they would abort.
Rights clash all of the time in American society, and most conflict.
This whole thing cracks me up...
He introduced the bill, but it's going to be completely ignored by the 'RATs who own the Maine legislature. Last month he introduced a bill legalizing same-sex marriage that has yet to be acted upon either.
It sounds to me that he is raising a deadly serious question in regards to abortion.
Is this for real? I am trying very hard to convince myself it is the Onion masquerading as the World Net Daily. Goodness, how ludicrous. This dude needs to get off whatever psychedelic he is on.
I don't think some people here are getting the point. Note that he brought up a bill to make gay marriage legal while he himself opposes it. (Think about it.)
What he's doing is stirring up the debate so that people will be forced to THINK about the implications--i.e. gays who have been bemoaning the failure of gay marriage amendments will see this as a way for gays to be eliminated in the future, so of course they would start to think about being anti-abortion; the prochoicers would have to come out and blatantly defend the abortion of children because they're gay.
It's a brilliant move even if it goes nowhere.
This guy needs to just leave the legislature and run not walk to the State Mental Hospital.
There is no test to determine if a baby will be gay, where in the Hell did this moron get his from and if it was from Rush then this idiot doesn't know the diffierence between real news and satire.
Wackos.....they come out of the woodwork.
LOL!!!
I am pro-gay rights (marriage, if they want), but also pro-choice (abortion choice) so - it's a tough call.
(I think I'd vote No on this bill, since pro-choice should trump the reason for choosing abortion. If people want to "design" their babies with blue eyes, without Down's syndrome, etc. it's their choice, since -- they'll be spending 10's of thousands of dollars to raise the child to productive citizen)
This idea is brilliant though -- since it does 'check mate' Gay-rights activitists who still ally themselves with the democrat party.
Very clever
Why indeed!
I don't think there ever will be either.........
Then why are you here ?
....are there those amongst us who enjoy a greater "right" to life?..........or by the same token, "less" of a right to live?
He said the bill looks into the future in case scientists find what he described as a "homosexual gene."
Not going to happen, in my opinion.
Two queer men decide to have a baby. They mix their sperm,
then had a surrogate mother artificially inseminated. When
the baby is born, they rush to the hospital. Two dozen babies
are in the ward and 23 of them are crying and screaming. But
one, over in the corner, is smiling serenely !!!
A nurse comes by, and much to the queer guys' delight, she
points out that the one and only happy child as theirs.
"Isn't this just absolutely wonderful?" Dennis says to Bobby.
"All these unhappy children... but ours is soooooo happy."
The nurse says, "Oh, sure he's happy now, but just watch
what happens when we take the pacifier out of his arse." !!!
More on the "pro life for homosexual fetus" legislation.
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"There is no test to determine if a baby will be gay"
"I don't think there ever will be either........."
Then why the opposition? A lot of us on the right think that the the gay rights movement in this country is more interested in recruiting and increasing their numbers, than in protecting the rights of gays. This bill gives us a chance to see just where the gay rights supporters stand. If they are truly interested only in protecting gays and don't care about increasing their numbers, then they should oppose this bill - and protect the 'right' to have abortion on demand, for any reason (since they tend to be liberal on most other issues).
But if their real aim is building up their numbers, then things get more interesting...
Okay, let's assume that Duprey isn't interested in either........I know Freepers are.
Dividing permissible behavior into rights and privileges annoys people, however. It's so much more convenient to assert that everything we want is a "right." But when every desire and wish becomes a right, then the few which are critical to the maintenance of freedom are quickly lost in the fog of confusion.
He said the bill looks into the future in case scientists find what he described as a "homosexual gene."
Not going to happen, in my opinion.
Pretty sure that he knows this, but is attempting to turn abortion issue around on them by asking them if they would still be abortion if the nature of a child was known in advance - probably giving him to much credit though.
Look at post #30.......this person is right on the money.
It opens debate on so many levels, debate which questions liberal logic to its very core.
Stop and re-think what he's doing with this bill. It's absolutely brilliant.
It's a start in the right direction-outlawing abortion one percent at the time. Now, which mini-minority will next get a pass? Decisions! Decisions!
Good point.
Know thine enemy:
Margaret Sanger quotes
Founder of Planned Parenthood
courtesy of life dynamics
Margaret Sanger founder of the International Planned Parenthood Federation, was a proponent of forced eugenics, segregation, abortion, birth control and sexual immorality. Here are some of her quotes.
"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it."
"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race."
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population…"
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock."
"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems.
"Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives."
"The unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' [is] the greatest present menace to civilization… the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective."
"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics."
"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying… a dead weight of human waste… an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all."
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind."
"The procreation of [the diseased, the feeble-minded and paupers] should be stopped."
"The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order..."
"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children..."
"[Mandatory] sterilization for [the insane and feeble-minded] is the answer."
"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization."
Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the American Baby Code that states, "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood".
Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the Population Congress with the aim, "...to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization."
"As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our outrageous and our courageous leader, we will probably find a number of areas in which we may find more about Margaret Sanger than we thought we wanted to know..."
Faye Wattleton, Past-president of Planned Parenthood
You said ... "why?"
I said ... "Why indeed?"
The point was the guy's smoking crack ... let him keep smoking crack.
We are a lost nation if the likes of Duprey has made it to his present position of status. : (
Thanks He Rides A White Horse, I want my money back for those speed reading books. :)
Sanger sounds familiar, huh? (smiling)
A most prudent mindset.
Its a perfect intelectual trap.
The left can't sustain both positions.
If there is a homosexual gene (there is not is a political propaganda tool) an abortion of a homosexual fetus would be on par with an abortion for any other birth defect.
I just checked on 4liberty, and he's been here longer than the Robinson's-they must have just erected Free Republic around him. (just kidding) Considering that statement, though-why is he here?
He said the bill looks into the future in case scientists find what he described as a "homosexual gene."
We are a lost nation if the likes of Duprey has made it to his present position of status. : (
There is no such thing as a homosexuality gene, and he knows this, but it forces them to address the moral issue of abortion through the argument - would abortion be acceptable to you if gay gene identified (again no such thing)and conservatives began aborting only gay babies? Same argument for liberal gene.
Sanger, Hitler, Pro-abortion crowd, etc......
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