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Bill Gates Speech to National Education Summit: "I am terrified for our workforce of tomorrow."
GatesFoundation.org ^ | 2/26/05 | Bill Gates

Posted on 02/28/2005 9:06:06 PM PST by baseball_fan

...America’s high schools are obsolete.

By obsolete, I don’t just mean that our high schools are broken, flawed, and under-funded…

By obsolete, I mean that our high schools – even when they’re working exactly as designed – cannot teach our kids what they need to know today.

Today, only one-third of our students graduate from high school ready for college, work, and citizenship.

The other two-thirds…are tracked into courses that won’t ever get them ready for college or prepare them for a family-wage job – no matter how well the students learn or the teachers teach.

This isn’t an accident or a flaw in the system; it is the system.

When I compare our high schools to what I see when I’m traveling abroad, I am terrified for our workforce of tomorrow. In math and science …

By 12th grade, U.S. students are scoring near the bottom of all industrialized nations.

… the U.S. college dropout rate is also one of the highest in the industrialized world. …

… In 2001, India graduated almost a million more students from college than the United States did. China graduates twice as many students with bachelor’s degrees as the U.S., and they have six times as many...in engineering.

… The key problem is political will. Elected officials have not yet done away with the idea underlying the old design. The idea behind the old design was that you could train an adequate workforce by sending only a third of your kids to college – and that the other kids either couldn’t do college work or didn’t need to. The idea behind the new design is that all students can do rigorous work, and – for their sake and ours – they have to.

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"Our high schools were designed fifty years ago to meet the needs of another age."
1 posted on 02/28/2005 9:06:06 PM PST by baseball_fan
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To: baseball_fan

Bill Gates needs to know that homeschoolers are teaching the leaders of tomorrow. We talk about the "Old Media" on FreeRepublic. Perhaps we should talk about the "Old Schools" as well. They are a Socialistic experiment that failed miserably.


2 posted on 02/28/2005 9:11:21 PM PST by politicket
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To: baseball_fan

All going per the liberals plan, keep suckin Bill. You idiot.


3 posted on 02/28/2005 9:12:20 PM PST by Waco
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To: politicket

Are their any data on the success of homeschooling in terms of going on to college or entering the jobforce?


4 posted on 02/28/2005 9:12:46 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Condi Rice: Yeaaahhh, baybee! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350654/posts)
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To: baseball_fan
I've always thought we need to get rid of non-essenital classes (elective course, PE). I mean I really use my woodworking class a lot and PE.....wow where would I be without it /sarcasm. We are not preparing our children, we are too busy having "pc classes" to teach our children to be tolerant.
5 posted on 02/28/2005 9:13:05 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: baseball_fan
"China graduates twice as many students with bachelor’s degrees as the U.S., and they have six times as many...in engineering."

That isn't surprising, considering their population compared to ours. He is correct that our education system does almost nothing to prepare students for a career. Hell, to a large extent I don't think college even prepares the students for the career they are there for.

6 posted on 02/28/2005 9:15:27 PM PST by KoRn (~Halliburton Told Me......)
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To: baseball_fan

What country are the best students from India attending? American colleges? The problem is, get the monopoly out of education. Give vouchers to parents, let them choose the schools their children attend. Of course what does Bill Gates know about momopolies.........I mean does he know they are bad?


7 posted on 02/28/2005 9:15:49 PM PST by jeremiah (Either take the gloves off of our troops, or let them come home NOW)
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To: baseball_fan

Well Bill, if you're so concerned about our schools, why don't you start contributing more of your billions to them, instead of to all the other issues in other foreign countries?

Reform in America's schools is a practical impossibility, thanks to the Teacher's Union. My mother was still teaching back 20 years ago, and when she refused to join their union, they went about doing everything they could to get her fired. They never succeeded, she ended up quiting first, but not because of them trying to get her fired, but because the paddle was taken out her hand.


8 posted on 02/28/2005 9:16:52 PM PST by Golden Eagle (Team America)
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To: baseball_fan

Step up to the plate Mr. Gates and use your billions to fund the under-funded schools.

That should solve the problem.


9 posted on 02/28/2005 9:17:05 PM PST by twas
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To: baseball_fan

Another foreign system...I guess Bill doesn't visit Thailand
BANGKOK, Thailand - Forty-six young men preparing to take a military school entrance exam were caught trying to cheat using mobile phones taped to their bodies and hidden in their shoes and underwear, an army official said Monday.

hee hee


10 posted on 02/28/2005 9:17:09 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
I mean I really use my woodworking class a lot and PE.

There are so many classes I took that had and have no use whatsoever.

11 posted on 02/28/2005 9:17:12 PM PST by rdl6989
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To: politicket

Exactly right.

Maybe Prince Billy can use some of his untold billions to help fix the problem, rather than just running off at the mouth.


12 posted on 02/28/2005 9:17:37 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Darkwolf377

go to www.homeschooling.org

They have some studies.


13 posted on 02/28/2005 9:18:24 PM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
well people would be fat and where could the athletes get their A's? hahah...

As a 2004 graduate, there are the achievers and then there are those who just sleep in class and pass with D's. I could of graduated with Algebra 2 as my last math course. I took that sophomore year.... I just don't know... On the other hand.. My girlfriend that goes to a private school in NJ is kicking my butt and taking a heck of a lot more college level courses than me. So I felt kind of screwed even though i went to Fairfax County Public Schools
14 posted on 02/28/2005 9:18:48 PM PST by Jeff Gordon Fan
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To: Darkwolf377

Sure...go to www.hslda.org


15 posted on 02/28/2005 9:20:10 PM PST by politicket
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To: baseball_fan

Still waiting for Mr. Gates to stop donating large amounts of cash to the party responsible for the high school educations Mr. Gates doesn't like.


16 posted on 02/28/2005 9:20:15 PM PST by Terpfen (New Democrat Party motto: les enfant terribles)
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To: baseball_fan

I am terrified of Bill's OS of tommorrow......


17 posted on 02/28/2005 9:21:33 PM PST by Brett66 (W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1 W1)
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To: baseball_fan
Even Bill Gates' net worth cannot prevail against the laws of nature.
If one accepts "Bell Curve" analysis with 'college material' IQ cutoff about 110, then even with massive dumbing down one could not drive it below , say, 105 (nor should one try, but this is another story).
This by definition would leave >50% of population (50% with IQs below 100) as unfit for college and as essentially ineducable at advanced levels. Better approach would be to focus the education of those who could benefit from it into more productive channels and stop wasting their time on PC baboonery of all kinds.
18 posted on 02/28/2005 9:22:20 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Jeff Gordon Fan
Yes I was one of those that passed with D's due to boredom and went back to school after I grew up. I believe that vouchers are the answer to the problem. I live in Washington State and my daughter is doing fairly well, BUT I supplement her public school education with additional home schooling.
19 posted on 02/28/2005 9:22:55 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Golden Eagle
Well Bill, if you're so concerned about our schools, why don't you start contributing more of your billions to them, instead of to all the other issues in other foreign countries?

Schools have PLENTY of money through our property taxes. Our county spends about $4,500 per student per year. The largest problem is the Socialistic nature of the National Education Association (NEA).
20 posted on 02/28/2005 9:23:11 PM PST by politicket
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To: baseball_fan

bttt


21 posted on 02/28/2005 9:25:16 PM PST by malia (a cherished constitutional right -- the right to vote and have it counted!)
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To: twas
Step up to the plate Mr. Gates and use your billions to fund the under-funded schools. That should solve the problem.

A thousand time's Gate money would do nothing to improve the schools. Public education is a cancer on the mind. The public schools exists for the main purpose of making obedient citizens, not critical thinkers. The public schools are working as intended. If Gates had any true insight in this matter who would bluntly point out that "education is far to important to leave in the hands of government beaurcates. The fact he doesn't recognige this is because he is a liberal and can't see that government is THE problem. I am a big fan of President Bush, but the fact he greatly increased the Dept of Education budget shows he is blind on this matter too. It is a sin against our children that leaders can't speak the truth about education. It is disgusting.

22 posted on 02/28/2005 9:25:34 PM PST by liberty2004
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To: twas
"Step up to the plate Mr. Gates and use your billions to fund the under-funded schools. That should solve the problem."

I saw this in looking for the text of the speech after seeing it on C-SPAN:

"To address the problem, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation said it would give 15 million US dollars to the National Governors Association, to be disbursed to states that take significant steps to improve their high schools. The Gates foundation said it had invested 733 million dollars in more than 1,500 high schools - about 8 percent of all public high schools - in the past five years."

source: http://english1.people.com.cn/200502/28/eng20050228_174927.html

23 posted on 02/28/2005 9:25:35 PM PST by baseball_fan (Thank you Vets)
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To: baseball_fan
I stopped reading his "speech" when he said the schools "needed more money."

I would have been VERY happy if he had talked about DISCIPLINE in learning....but I guess that's too much to ask!

24 posted on 02/28/2005 9:25:36 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


25 posted on 02/28/2005 9:26:13 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: rdl6989
There are so many classes I took that had and have no use whatsoever.

Then again Algebra has shown up far too often in my life for me to think it was all for naught. Darned teachers were right.

Personally, I think Mr. Gates has had this plan ever since the second wedgie of his freshman year: "They'll see... someday I'll be so rich that I'll close down high school. Wait, I'll get so rich that I'll close down all the high schools. Then the smart kids will be free!"

Lesson learned, beware the power of a determined nerd.

26 posted on 02/28/2005 9:26:42 PM PST by jz638
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To: politicket

Thank you both. I don't hear much about this and as you know the MSM sure as heck doesn't report on it, unless someone who's homeschooled is involved in a crime. Balanced coverage, and all.


27 posted on 02/28/2005 9:26:56 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Condi Rice: Yeaaahhh, baybee! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350654/posts)
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To: baseball_fan

I am terrified for citizens of a free nation who allow themselves to be called "our workforce" as if they were slaves to a communist system.


28 posted on 02/28/2005 9:27:42 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Yes I was one of those that passed with D's due to boredom and went back to school after I grew up.

I own my own business and the absolute BEST subcontractors that I have found are those that were high school dropouts. Many are very intelligent. They all have a common story....they were bored to tears because NOTHING was expected of them...and they met the challenge.
29 posted on 02/28/2005 9:27:51 PM PST by politicket
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To: politicket

He is right about the high schools. I hope that his message was taken to heart and that his suggestions will be implemented. Education is the key to our economic problems as well as many of society's problems.


30 posted on 02/28/2005 9:29:45 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: politicket

YES, what YOU said......students today, in many cases, are BORED....that's WHAT the problem is.....making them do PC cr*p creates bored kids who lose their motivation to learn. Nothing better (for some) than the school of hard knocks....especially if the student has been schooled in MOTIVATION (which CAN be taught, IMHO.)


31 posted on 02/28/2005 9:30:44 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: baseball_fan
In math and science... By 12th grade, U.S. students are scoring near the bottom of all industrialized nations... China graduates twice as many students with bachelor’s degrees as the U.S., and they have six times as many...in engineering.

But Bill, we have to dumb down math and science to keep boys from getting ahead of girls in anything. It's all about equality. So what if the Chinese end up with six times as many engineers; we'll beat them with lawyers. Women lawyers.


32 posted on 02/28/2005 9:31:03 PM PST by Nick Danger (The only way out is through)
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To: goodnesswins
I would have been VERY happy if he had talked about DISCIPLINE in learning.

The ONLY solution to the schooling problem is to removing it COMPLETELY from government. Anything short of that will never work. Education is a service and anyone who thinks government bureaucrats and create an adequate system is delusional. Yes, there are a few cases where public schools "work" but in time the government leaders will make sure they are dumbed down too. The solution is simple, the political will to accomplish it is....

33 posted on 02/28/2005 9:31:11 PM PST by liberty2004
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To: politicket
But Bill Gates doesn't want to hire your home schooled kids, he would rather have the workforce in China or India. Just looks at all the remarks he has made about china in the past year.

Your kids would want too much money.
34 posted on 02/28/2005 9:32:06 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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To: Goodgirlinred

"Education" is the key, WHEN the goal is teaching students to think and analyze, and write and compute.....PC'ing them to death kills that, however. AND, furthermore, it does NOT take MORE money for education.....


35 posted on 02/28/2005 9:32:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: Darkwolf377
I don't hear much about this and as you know the MSM sure as heck doesn't report on it, unless someone who's homeschooled is involved in a crime. Balanced coverage, and all.

LOL!! Ain't that the truth! (Sorry for the bad grammar, but I was PUBLIKLEE EDIAKATUD).

My Senior year requirements in High School consisted of gym class. All other requirements had been met by the end of my Junior year. There was PLENTY of time to get into trouble however...
36 posted on 02/28/2005 9:32:18 PM PST by politicket
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To: clee1

"Maybe Prince Billy can use some of his untold billions to help fix the problem, rather than just running off at the mouth."

Bill Gates & his wife donate a lot of money to various causes - you might want to check out the donations the Gates foundation has provided to education
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Education/TransformingHighSchools/Grants/default.htm?showYear=2004

IMHO there's a lot more that needs to be done w schools and education instead of just throwing more $s.


37 posted on 02/28/2005 9:33:44 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Forty-six young men preparing to take a military school entrance exam were caught trying to cheat using mobile phones taped to their bodies and hidden in their shoes and underwear, an army official said Monday.

Not that I agree with the sentiment, but I had an old squad leader who often told me: "If you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin." I never asked him to explain it. (Wouldn't mind if somebody would, though.)

38 posted on 02/28/2005 9:34:07 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: baseball_fan

Very large portions of that money are in donations of Microsoft Software that are valued at the Full MSRP. IOW, they value a copy of Windows XP at $299 to $2000 and CALs at $59-$199. It isn't real dollars.


39 posted on 02/28/2005 9:34:45 PM PST by FactsMatter (:))
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To: FactsMatter
But Bill Gates doesn't want to hire your home schooled kids, he would rather have the workforce in China or India.

My homeschooled kids aren't being trained to work for Bill Gates. They are being trained to be Christian leaders that have their own businesses and are involved in their civic responsibilities.
40 posted on 02/28/2005 9:35:49 PM PST by politicket
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To: baseball_fan
A third? No way. That number's way to high.

Today, only one-third of our students graduate from high school ready for college, work, and citizenship.

41 posted on 02/28/2005 9:37:42 PM PST by GOPJ (Liberals haven't had a new idea in 40 years.)
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To: baseball_fan
In the old days schools in this country not only taught "readin' ritin' & 'rithmatic" but moreover morality, and founding principles of our nation, so that students would turn out to be good stewards of their country.

Schools nowadays hardly teach anything about what made this country great, or morality, but mostly environmental hysteria, socialist propaganda, and how to be good "citizens of the world."
42 posted on 02/28/2005 9:40:35 PM PST by w6ai5q37b
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To: rdl6989
There are so many classes I took that had and have no use whatsoever.

It is my considered opinion that I have never, ever, learned anything, during my entire lifetime, from a teacher. I learned everything I know from either personal experience, or from reading books.

IMO schools could be staffed with proctors who simply assigned reading and oversaw tests on that material, without any loss of educational effect.

43 posted on 02/28/2005 9:40:54 PM PST by Siegfried
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To: baseball_fan
He can't see the Forrest for the trees. He does give large amounts of money for public education but doesn't notice that the money is as good as flushed down the toilet. He blames our government instead of noticing that the Union is the biggest obstacle for education. If the NEA spent near the time on getting back the basics of education than it does on identifying key words for potential Ritalin subjects our schools would be top notch.

A good example of what is wrong with our shool system was a key phrase that a teachers husband dropped on my husband during a casual conversation. My husband asked him just what a teacher is supposed to do? His answer. Teachers are supposed to mold students.

44 posted on 02/28/2005 9:41:03 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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To: goodnesswins
His whole point was that the system needed to be redesigned. The present model was designed 50 years ago. He was not advocating dumping a lot of money into the project. Also, he was not advocating PC'ing anyone to death. He was stating a fact. All children should be educated rigorously.
45 posted on 02/28/2005 9:41:19 PM PST by Goodgirlinred ( GoodGirlInRed Four More Years!!!!!)
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To: politicket
They are a Socialistic experiment that failed miserably.

Amen, and the "old schools" are being replaced by parents who care.

46 posted on 02/28/2005 9:46:04 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: politicket
Resolutions passed at the 2003 Annual Conference of the NEA (National Education Association):

Does everyone agree with these?

B-69. Home Schooling. The National Education Association believes that home schooling programs cannot provide the student with a comprehensive education experience. When home schooling occurs, students enrolled must meet all state requirements. Instruction should be by persons who are licensed by the appropriate state education licensure agency, and a curriculum approved by the state department of education should be used. The Association also believes that home-schooled students should not participate in any extracurricular activities in the public schools.

C-15. Extremist Groups. The National Education Association condemns the philosophy and practices of extremist groups and urges active opposition to all such movements that are inimical to the ideals of the Association.

I-1. Peace and International Relations. The Association urges all nations to develop treaties and disarmament agreements that reduce the possibility of war. The Association also believes that such treaties and agreements should prevent the placement of weapons in outer space. The Association further believes that the United Nations (UN) furthers world peace and promotes the rights of all people by preventing war, racism, and genocide. The Association supports the U.S. Institute of Peace, which provides publications, information, programs, training, and research data in developing peacemaking and conflict resolution skills.

I-12. Family Planning. The National Education Association supports family planning, including the right to reproductive freedom. The Association also urges the implementation of community-operated, school-based family planning clinics that will provide intensive counseling by trained personnel.

I-47. English as the Official Language. The Association believes that efforts to legislate English as the official language disregard cultural pluralism; deprive those in need of education, social services, and employment; and must be challenged.

A-11. Use of Closed Public School Buildings. The Association believes that closed public school buildings should be sold or leased only to those organizations that do not provide direct educational services to students and/or are not in direct competition with public schools.

B-1. Early Childhood Education. The National Education Association supports early childhood education programs in the public schools for children from birth through age eight. The Association also supports a high-quality program of transition from home and/or preschool to the public kindergarten or first grade. This transition should include communication and cooperation among parents/guardians, the preschool staff, and the public school staff. The Association also believes that early childhood education programs should include a full continuum of services for parents/guardians and children, including child care, child development, developmentally appropriate and diversity-based curricula, special education, and appropriate bias-free screening devices. The Association believes that federal legislation should be enacted to assist in organizing the implementation of fully funded early childhood education programs offered through the public schools. These programs must be available to all children on an equal basis and should include mandatory kindergarten with compulsory attendance.

B-7. Diversity. The National Education Association believes that similarities and differences among races, ethnicity, color, national origin, language, geographic location, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identification, age, physical ability, size, occupation, and marital, parental, or economic status form the fabric of a society. The Association also believes that education should foster the values of appreciation and acceptance of the various qualities that pertain to people as individuals and as members of diverse populations. The Association further believes in the importance of observances, programs and curricula that accurately portray and recognize the roles, contributions, cultures, and history of these diverse groups and individuals.

B-9. Racism, Sexism, and Sexual Orientation Discrimination. Discrimination and stereotyping based on such factors as race, gender, immigration status, physical disabilities, ethnicity, occupation, and sexual orientation must be eliminated. Plans, activities, and programs must — Increase respect, understanding, acceptance, and sensitivity toward individuals and groups in a diverse society composed of such groups as American Indians/Alaska natives, Asians and Pacific Islanders, Blacks, Hispanics, women, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgendered people, and people with disabilities. Eliminate discrimination and stereotyping in curricula, textbooks, resource and instructional materials, activities, etc. Foster the dissemination and use of nondiscriminatory and nonstereotypical language, resources, practices, and activities. Integrate an accurate portrayal of the roles and contributions of all groups throughout history across curricula, particularly groups who have been under-represented historically Eliminate subtle practices that favor the education of one student over another on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, physical disabilities, or sexual orientation Encourage all members of the educational community to examine assumptions and prejudices, including, but not limited to, racism, sexism, and homophobia, that might limit the opportunities and growth of students and education employees Offer positive and diverse role models in our society including the recruitment, hiring, and promotion of diverse education employees in our public schools Coordinate with organizations and concerned agencies that promote the contributions, heritage, culture, history, and special health and care needs of diverse population groups Promote a safe and inclusive environment for all.
47 posted on 02/28/2005 9:46:56 PM PST by politicket
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To: jeremiah
Of course what does Bill Gates know about momopolies.........I mean does he know they are bad?

Monopolies are not bad. Government enforced and supported monopolies are bad. Microsoft has done more to advance the distribution of information than our entire public school system.

48 posted on 02/28/2005 9:49:15 PM PST by Once-Ler (Beating a dead horse for NeoCon America)
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To: baseball_fan
Two words: Vouch.......ers......

Polar Opposite Politics
49 posted on 02/28/2005 9:52:12 PM PST by CL2850
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To: baseball_fan


Our high schools today are not even as good as the high schools of 50 years ago. I know. I was there. Well, 40 years ago. Whaddaya think? Maybe there's an agenda running which does not include educating American children to succeed in the world of the future and to be leaders in it. Maybe?


50 posted on 02/28/2005 9:56:28 PM PST by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops.)
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