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ALS Along the Eastern Shore (Mobile Bay Alabama)
WKRG TV5 ^ | Feb 28, 2005 | Kesshia Peyton

Posted on 03/01/2005 6:25:43 AM PST by sweet_diane

Why is a small area of South Alabama home to such a high number of cases of a rare disease?

In part one of our investigative report, we talked to two families who have never met, but have been affected by the deadly disease called ALS also called Lou Gehrig's disease, which attacks the muscles.

The peaceful waters along the eastern shore are calm and tranquil.

But could Mobile Bay, and the air and soil around it somehow be factors in the unusually high number of ALS cases?

Susan Calhoun: " Here he is, he's worked all his life. He's in the prime of his career and it just stopped. It stopped on a dime."

John Calhoun of Spanish Fort died from ALS in December.

His wife says it came out of nowhere and strongly believes the environment along the bay played a key role.

Calhoun: "I fully believe that there is a gene. I think it's connected genetically in some form or way and I feel like the environment triggers that gene."

Bert Woodard of Satsuma has been living with ALS for 21 years now and may be one of the longest living survivors.

Doctors told him an ATV accident triggered the first onset of ALS symptoms.

But what puzzled doctors is when he went through testing, his body had a very high level of mercury…much higher than normal, acceptable levels.

Where it came from remains a mystery.

Bert Woodard's Mother Lura Woodard: " He doesn't know, he doesn't have any proof but we think that has a lot to do with it, the paper mill chemical companies, mercury and water maybe...we just don't know."

We took Susan Calhoun and Bert Woodard's theories to Kelly Ivy.

He's not a doctor or scientist but chairman of the Southland Gulf Neuromuscular Association in Montgomery.

Ivy's daughter has the disease.

Chairman of Southland Gulf Neurological Association Kelly Ivy: "We show a total of 35 cases in a corridor band from Weeks Bay to Saraland. 35 cases in a population of approximately 61 to 63-thousand."

For the past year, Ivy has been tracking those cases to see if there are similarities or connections.

There are 8 ALS cases in Spanish Fort, 11 in Daphne and Fairhope, 2 cases in Bay Minette, one along the causeway, and 8 cases stretching from Point Clear to Bon Secour.

This does not include the 5 confirmed ALS patients in Saraland and Satsuma.

He believes what connects all the cases can be found in Mobile Bay.

Ivy: "The prevailing winds tend to come fro the south and the southwest meaning, they're coming straight off salt air fresh, salt air, bathing the eastern shore daily, fresh, saline salt water...and yet this hideously high incidence."

In a nutshell, Ivy believes the air from the Mobile Bay could be carrying "something" that might trigger a hidden gene in some people who are prone to have ALS.

There are many theories about why there are so many ALS cases near Mobile Bay.

With no clear answers, we turned our attention to Alabama's state toxicologist Dr. Neil Sass.

Dr. Neil Sass: "I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. If it were a true environmental contaminant that's causing this, my first instinct would be why do we have so few cases that we do? Another thing is why does it appear everything is on the east side of the bay when the majority of the industry is on the west side?

Dr. Sass says a team of epidemiologists, genealogists and toxicologists are aware of the ALS cases in Mobile and Baldwin counties.

They met with a group of ALS patients just last week at the University of Alabama in Birmingham -- one of the most respected medical research institutions in the nation.

Doctors say they will launch a major medical research project where they will study the ALS cases along the coast, and try to determine if indeed there is an "ALS cluster".

Dr. Sass: "Cluster is a very scientific term and we do not have data to say that there's a cluster. There are cases there, we don't know how that compares with anywhere else in the state."

The team from UAB will be looking for specific information where ALS patients worked and lived for the past 10 years.

Dr. Sass offers this advice to anyone who may be worried.

Sass: "Most people that all people should go about doing what they do everyday, the way they want to live them. If there is something going on we hope to find out what it is.

For Susan Calhoun, and other families affected by ALS, they say it's a step in the right direction.

Calhoun: "A cure is around the corner I really believe that and I think they might find it in our area"

Medical experts say they wish they could agree.

Dr. Sass: "At this point there is no evidence knowing "anything" that causes/triggers ALS. That's what we would like as an ultimate goal is to hopefully to find out, but a lot of time and effort has been put forth around the world and so far, nobody knows what causes ALS.

The research team from UAB will be sending a letter to every neurologist in the state of Alabama.

It will explain what the team is doing and ask for information to track every case of ALS and see how it compares to the number of cases in Mobile and Baldwin counties.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: als; health; lougehrigdisease
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We lost my mother in law to ALS in Oct of '94. The reason I'm posting this is my attempt to give this issue some notice. There are also increased cases of children developing Lukemia (sp?) in our area.

Thank you for reading.

1 posted on 03/01/2005 6:25:44 AM PST by sweet_diane
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To: sweet_diane
www.southlandgulf.org/index.html

Memory fails me as to how to post a link, but I want to share this web address.

2 posted on 03/01/2005 6:31:27 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

Offshore drilling....


3 posted on 03/01/2005 6:37:37 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: sweet_diane

Thanks for posting this. I've treated a woman in Saraland for MS. She tells me there is also a high incidence of MS in the Mobile area.

I've long suspected a possible causative agent from something released into the air by the paper mills. I've no research that indicates similar clusters of other or similar diseases in other areas with paper mills.

An MS patient in Colorado once told me that there were six cases of MS in her subdivision. That is almost statistically impossible for so many to contract the disease in such a small area without some environmental causative agent. She told me they all had lived in the neighborhood for a fairly short time. Unfortunately, she died soon after I met her.

Since this article is part one could you ping me if and when there are subsequent articles printed. Thank you.


4 posted on 03/01/2005 6:40:49 AM PST by miele man
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To: stuartcr
As good a possible cause as any.

We were told that my MIL didn't have the genetic form of ALS and to not be concerned for our daughters, yet this brings it up in a different light.

5 posted on 03/01/2005 6:41:19 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

Thanks for posting this. I've treated a woman in Saraland for MS. She tells me there is also a high incidence of MS in the Mobile area.

I've long suspected a possible causative agent from something released into the air by the paper mills. I've no research that indicates similar clusters of other or similar diseases in other areas with paper mills.

An MS patient in Colorado once told me that there were six cases of MS in her subdivision. That is almost statistically impossible for so many to contract the disease in such a small area without some environmental causative agent. She told me they all had lived in the neighborhood for a fairly short time. Unfortunately, she died soon after I met her.

Since this article is part one could you ping me if and when there are subsequent articles printed. Thank you.


6 posted on 03/01/2005 6:41:24 AM PST by miele man
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To: sweet_diane

When is somebody going to investigate those areas where there is a statistically significant LACK of a certain (any) disease?

Finding out why might result in a cure.


7 posted on 03/01/2005 6:48:30 AM PST by CPOSharky (Demoncrat speak - "Bipartisan" is only used when Republicans are the majority.)
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To: miele man
"Since this article is part one could you ping me if and when there are subsequent articles printed. "

I will ping you. So far, it's had brief flashes on the news and whispered rumors at the grocery store.

Growing up I only knew one person with MS (none with ALS, only read about Lou Gehrig), seems like now almost everyone I meet knows someone with MS and/or ALS..

As a child visiting my grandparents in Mobile, we could always tell when we were close because of the smell. I've always associated the paper mill smell (rotten eggs?) with spanish moss! Funny how associations happen in a young mind.

Dr. Nancy McLeod was my MIL's neurologist. Never have I met a more compassionae doctor, and I've met my share with my dads illnesses. I was with my MIL when the doc said it was time for a vent if she wanted it, which my MIL refused...only opting for a feeding tube.

8 posted on 03/01/2005 6:48:52 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: CPOSharky
"When is somebody going to investigate those areas where there is a statistically significant LACK of a certain (any) disease? "

Excellant point. I hope someone at the CDC or whatever powers that be, are paying attention.

9 posted on 03/01/2005 6:50:36 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane
"We show a total of 35 cases in a corridor band from Weeks Bay to Saraland. 35 cases in a population of approximately 61 to 63-thousand."

Statistically insignificant.

10 posted on 03/01/2005 6:53:13 AM PST by hang 'em
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To: blam

ping


11 posted on 03/01/2005 6:56:46 AM PST by shamusotoole
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To: sweet_diane

"When is somebody going to investigate those areas where there is a statistically significant LACK of a certain (any) disease?"

I suspect the CDC or state health agency would take the easy out and say, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it". Why use valuable resources to look at something healthy. Still, your point is well taken.

In post six above I mentioned six cases of MS in a subdivision. Actually, it was six cases in only 13 homes. None of the people involved had MS (diagnosed) before they moved to this cul-de-sac. What are the odds of this happening without some common external causative agent?


12 posted on 03/01/2005 7:00:59 AM PST by miele man
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To: sweet_diane

"When is somebody going to investigate those areas where there is a statistically significant LACK of a certain (any) disease?"

I suspect the CDC or state health agency would take the easy out and say, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it". Why use valuable resources to look at something healthy. Still, your point is well taken.

In post six above I mentioned six cases of MS in a subdivision. Actually, it was six cases in only 13 homes. None of the people involved had MS (diagnosed) before they moved to this cul-de-sac. What are the odds of this happening without some common external causative agent?


13 posted on 03/01/2005 7:01:44 AM PST by miele man
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To: sweet_diane
Here's your link: The Link
14 posted on 03/01/2005 7:06:20 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: miele man
"When is somebody going to investigate those areas where there is a statistically significant LACK of a certain (any) disease?"

I suspect the CDC or state health agency would take the easy out and say, "if it ain't broke, then don't fix it". Why use valuable resources to look at something healthy. Still, your point is well taken.

The government method is usually "if it ain't broke, fix it till it is."

15 posted on 03/01/2005 7:06:31 AM PST by CPOSharky (Demoncrat speak - "Bipartisan" is only used when Republicans are the majority.)
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To: hang 'em
Are you Dr. Sass? That was kind of the impression he gave on the news this morning.

Those 35 cases don't include those who have already passed, as far as I know. The typical time between diagnosis and death is only a few years. I'd like to see the numbers on all cases, current and not current, if for nothing more then to calm my nerves. Lot's of our seafood comes out of that bay.

16 posted on 03/01/2005 7:09:50 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: trebb

YOur link does not work.


17 posted on 03/01/2005 7:10:19 AM PST by miele man
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To: sweet_diane

As a small town family physician, I have documented "hot spots" around the area for several environmental cancers. The CDC is too busy with that butt-fupping illness to bother with my data. We have been drinking water from N. Wisconsin for 15 years, FYI


18 posted on 03/01/2005 7:12:00 AM PST by STD (Last Action Hero)
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To: sweet_diane

I spent half my life in the water of the Bay since it was my front yard. I hope I don't get sick.


19 posted on 03/01/2005 7:13:03 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal
My Husband took swimming lessons in the Bay. :) And he's been known to walk the shore for a flounder or twenty! lol And love to see the jubilees.

Our girls don't have the same experience tho. When my Husband was young he got a terrible ear infection that they said came from the Bay, so we just never took the kids, but only for that reason. (instead of the Bay, they got infections from pools, lol)

As far as the ALS/MS issues, sounds like maybe more of an air thing then water thing to me. It is my understanding that Mobile Bay 'flushes' out much quicker then other similar Bays.

20 posted on 03/01/2005 7:20:24 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

My father-in-law died of ALS in '97 at the age of 57. It's certainly a hard way for kids to lose their grandpa.


21 posted on 03/01/2005 7:20:56 AM PST by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: hang 'em
"Statistically insignificant."

So true. The causes of ALS, or autoimmune disorders like MS or even cancer are WAY more complicated than an area or industrial waste. And what about people in years gone by who lived beside industries whose environmentally safe practices were all but non existing? Several posters say that all these diseases were almost unknown then. Or at least very rare. But we all want nice, neat, simple packages as answers to 'why?'. There is no easy explanation to these most baffling disorders. I'd just go for a decent med to ameliorate just one of the symptoms of these---pain. Tylenol just isn't cutting it. :-)


But paper mills? Mmmmm--no, I don't think so. Hot, humid, southern, insect infested clime? That would be more probable. All those moldy microbes wafting around ya know.
22 posted on 03/01/2005 7:26:47 AM PST by Lakeside
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To: stuartcr

You forgot the sarcasm tag...


23 posted on 03/01/2005 7:28:57 AM PST by Axenolith (This space for rent...)
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To: newgeezer

I know it is newsgeezer. Our youngest was just learning to speak when my MIL started losing her ability to speak. They developed their own language and 'the baby' could understand her when all we could hear were grunts and moans.


24 posted on 03/01/2005 7:29:34 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

If you start a ping list for this subject, please include me. My grandmother is one of the ALS cases in the Point Clear/Bon Secour group and I have a 4 year old niece who is battling (successfully so far) leukemia (ALL type). She lives in the same area. I, too, grew up on the bay, crabbing and floundering, and learning to swim right infront of my parents' home. I find it hard to believe it's the water, but perhaps some other environmental factor. Your point about the spanish moss, the north wind and the paper mills is also a memory I share.


25 posted on 03/01/2005 7:30:37 AM PST by the lone haranguer (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia)
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To: sweet_diane

There have been cases where people with ALS-like symptoms had mercury-amalgam fillings removed from their teeth and showed an immediate improvement. Mercury certainly seems to be an aggravating factor for ALS, if not the cause.


26 posted on 03/01/2005 7:31:09 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Axenolith

I did...??


27 posted on 03/01/2005 7:31:45 AM PST by stuartcr
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To: miele man

I see that now - I didn't notice that when I copied and pasted the URL info, it inserted freerepublic info too. I tried again and it did the same thing...


28 posted on 03/01/2005 7:34:04 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: sweet_diane

I remember the "Don't eat the fish warnings" due to mercury testing but that involved certain of those swampy areas north of Mobile.

I would be surprised if the ALS cases were linked to smelly paper mills because such mills are just about everywhere.

I would not hesitate to swim in the waters of the Bay except I would not do so at night because of certain large critters.


29 posted on 03/01/2005 7:34:11 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (Technology advances but human nature is dependably stagnant)
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To: Lakeside
"And what about people in years gone by who lived beside industries whose environmentally safe practices were all but non existing?"

Another good point. Recently there has been a huge move to the Eastern Shore...the population is way out of control and continuing to do so. (developers gone wild) That also affects the numbers. Tho the cases I have a personal connection with were Fairhopers from way back.

30 posted on 03/01/2005 7:35:27 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: the lone haranguer
I hadn't planned on starting a ping list, but now I think I will. It's the least I can do.

Your grandmother and niece will be in my prayers.

31 posted on 03/01/2005 7:37:51 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane

A friend died from ALS a few years ago. Very cruel disease. The comments above are quite interesting. This "rare" disease is evidently not rare in certain areas and I should think the medical community ought to sit up and take notice. Perhaps someone in a position to have influence should get in touch with the people charged with our public health.

ALS seems to be more prevalent in the male population and MS more so in the female population. I've always thought this was interesting and should invite investigation.


32 posted on 03/01/2005 7:39:27 AM PST by RichardW
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To: sweet_diane; shamusotoole
Hi Diane, haven't heard from you in a while. As you know, I live on the west bay.

FYI, I have always suspected that the "no-see-ums" (midges) that we have in the area carry an infectious agent similar to Lyme Disease. I was raised in the Theodore - Grand Bay area and left the area right after high school.

When I decided to retire (at age 50), I came back to the area, bought property cleared it and built a new house.
During the clearing of the property I was floored by something? I went from wanting to work from daylight to dark to barely being able to get out of bed...I was tired and slept all the time, I became mentally confused and began to have panic attacks...all out of the clear blue. Suprisingly, daily antibiotics helped the situation.

I went to many doctors and even had a spinal-tap looking for Lyme disease, which came back negative. The MD's eventually sent me to a shrink where I was diagnosed with major depression and ADHD at the age of 50. They put me on anti-depressants and Ritlin...which didn't do a damn thing and I quit taking them after about a year and one-half.

I have been retired in this area for ten years now and have gradually gotten better over this ten year period. I'm still convinced something happened to me when I spent the time here to build the house. I still do very little and tire out easily. I'm in excellent physical health otherwise. I don't eat (never-have) the seafood in the area.

33 posted on 03/01/2005 7:40:18 AM PST by blam
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To: sweet_diane

"(developers gone wild)"

Ain't it the truth! How I wish we'd bought property in Point Clear back in the 70s.


34 posted on 03/01/2005 7:41:23 AM PST by Lakeside
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To: sweet_diane

It might be nothing. Let's say for example, that the chance of a certain disease occuring in a population is 1 in 100,000. that does not mean that there will be one case in every locale of 100,000 people. Due to randomness and probability, there will be some areas that have sinificantly more than 1 in 100,000, and some that have significantly less than 1 in 100,000. It doesn't neccessarily mean tha there is something in the air where there are more than 1 in 100,000 cases.


35 posted on 03/01/2005 7:44:26 AM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: blam
Hi Blam :) good to hear from you!

You story of moving here and clearing your land are very similar to mine...curious to say the least. First thing we did after getting married was buy land 2 doors down from my MIL and start clearing it, the only parcel of land not previously a corn field so..lots of growth. I became pregnant almost immediately and then the stress of actually paying for the land and new baby set in! I've always associated my 'symptoms' to those and other life stresses.

The skeeters and 'no see em'... I've seen mention of Lyme Disease on various ALS forums and while they were trying to diagnose my MIL they ruled it out as well, but my MIL always felt like it somehow played into it all.

You mean you've never had a fried butterfly Gulf shrimp?! Heaven on earth man! lol

36 posted on 03/01/2005 7:50:26 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: Lakeside
"How I wish we'd bought property in Point Clear back in the 70s."

My grandpa bought land in Gulf Shores back in the 40's a block off the beach. It was either $500 or $1000 per lot, I can't remember.

We are currently looking to move as they are 5 laning the road we live on and will be taking alot of our property. Gotta make room for all the commuters. I've only been a Baldwin Countian since '82 and I sure do miss the old days.

37 posted on 03/01/2005 7:54:47 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: blam

"I went to many doctors and even had a spinal-tap looking for Lyme disease, which came back negative. The MD's eventually sent me to a shrink where I was diagnosed with major depression and ADHD at the age of 50. They put me on anti-depressants and Ritlin...which didn't do a damn thing and I quit taking them after about a year and one-half."

I once tested positive for Lyme disease but it was a false positive. I was all wrapped up with weird symptoms and I attributed it to a mosquito bite. I even became convinced I had ALS after reading the various symptoms. (Reading medical journals will drive one crazy) I eventually concluded it was due to a fall I had at my house and also arthritis in the spine. I've just learned to live with it.


38 posted on 03/01/2005 8:00:13 AM PST by RichardW
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To: RichardW
Not to laugh but you aren't alone with the ALS scare. Word of advice, NEVER, NEVER, google twitching as a symptom.

ALS scares the bejeesus out of me.

39 posted on 03/01/2005 8:02:45 AM PST by riri
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To: sweet_diane
As far as the ALS/MS issues, sounds like maybe more of an air thing then water thing to me. It is my understanding that Mobile Bay 'flushes' out much quicker then other similar Bays.

My sister has been investigating all the ALS/MS stuff for a while. I'll have to get her to add this article to her dossier. Her research does show that perhaps the water doesn't have anything to do with it, and maybe it's the air. I have to believe that if it were the water my whole family would be dead from mercury poisoning. Considering all the fish and shrimp we've eaten out of the front yard, it seems likely that at least one of us (there's 7) would be sick.

We are about a mile south of Brookley Field. The Mobile side of the Bay is pretty trashy, but there's always been plenty of wildlife around. The Eastern Shore is much prettier.

I think I remember her talking about the incidences of "sickness" being higher toward the mouth of rivers that dump into the bay. Satsuma, Saraland, Pritchard, and Chickasaw are all in close proximity to each other, and really close to some of the industrial plants out on the river. I know the paper mills put out some darn toxic smells, but I wonder if they have anything to do with the ailments. My Grandfather worked for International Paper for something like 40 years and died at 83, so who knows.

The Bay does "flush" quickly because it's so shallow. In fact recently nearly all the water was replaced thanks to Ivan. The jog the storm took to the east just before landfall put the eye wall east of the Bay and sucked all the water out. The surge when the storm came ashore filled it back up, but the surge strength was minimal west of Gulf Shores.

40 posted on 03/01/2005 8:14:13 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: STD

I understand your concern for "hot spots" and possible environmental cancers. My brother told me that folks in his western Kentucky hometown were dropping like flies from cancer. A bit later the EPA came in and closed down the city's water system until corrective actions were taken. I presume the city complied. I still take bottled water when I visit him.


41 posted on 03/01/2005 8:20:10 AM PST by miele man
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To: numberonepal

Any info you can share about your sisters research would be appreciated.


42 posted on 03/01/2005 8:21:27 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: riri
i would reply but i'm on my way to google. lol

Don't let ALS scare you.. Whatever God's plan, it is perfect, we just may not see it for the perfection it is.

43 posted on 03/01/2005 8:23:33 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane
Any info you can share about your sisters research would be appreciated.

You know, I've mostly ignored her rantings, but have given her data more than lip service. She's in Cali now, but I'll see what I can come up with and let y'all know. Her ex-hubby is an environmental lawyer and she was trying to get him to file a class action suit. Maybe they can send me what they've got for analysis.

44 posted on 03/01/2005 8:27:52 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: numberonepal

That would be great. There's more local info on the wkrg.com website including a case of a young man who has lived with ALS for 21 years.


45 posted on 03/01/2005 8:32:16 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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To: sweet_diane
Try Mobile Bay Watch. They have some stuff on their site that may provide some more info until I can get some specifics from my sister.
46 posted on 03/01/2005 8:39:36 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: RichardW
"I once tested positive for Lyme disease but it was a false positive."

Lyme disease is very difficult to detect because there are so few bacteria present in the body. PCR techniques have made it easier to detect but, it is still frequently missed.

"(Reading medical journals will drive one crazy) "

LOL, I have all the books on Lyme disease and one says that when the MD's tells you to go see a shrink, that's when you know for sure that you have Lyme disease.

On the advise of one MD (she is in Dallas and is known as 'The Lyme Queen'), I went to Mexico and bought Rulid, which at the time, was not FDA approved for sale in the USA. Like all antibotics, it helped with my symptoms.

When you're sick and can't get well, reading symptoms will drive you nuts.
For example, in '61 I went to submarine school in New London, Connecicut. New London is in Lyme County, Connecicut. I was stationed in New London for two years. See what I mean. (The mind does funny things)

47 posted on 03/01/2005 8:42:32 AM PST by blam
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To: sweet_diane

I drove through Mobile, and I wanted to look around and maybe spend the night. However the stinky air pollution was so bad, I couldn't wait to get through there and on my way. Maybe these health concerns will prompt clean up.


48 posted on 03/01/2005 8:44:28 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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I've long suspected a possible causative agent from something released into the air by the paper mills.

I remember seeing a television special a long time ago about a Foster Grant sunglasses factory that was abandoned and a bunch of kids used to play there. None of the kids ever became sick, but their kids and grandkids did.

I forget the details as this was some ten years ago at least.

49 posted on 03/01/2005 8:47:48 AM PST by Bon mots
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" Maybe these health concerns will prompt clean up."

Ya shoulda smelled it 30 years ago...it's way better!

Mobile and the surrounding area is rich in history and I'm so sorry the 'stink' kept you from enjoying the area. Paper mills are part of that history, those that didn't farm or fish made paper.

50 posted on 03/01/2005 8:50:13 AM PST by sweet_diane ("Will I dance for you Jesus? Or in awe of You be still? I can only imagine..I can only imagine.")
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