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THE FELON VOTE
NY Post ^ | March 1, 2005 | JOHN R. LOTT JR. & JAMES K. GLASSMAN

Posted on 03/01/2005 9:27:26 AM PST by neverdem

IN the wake of their election defeat, Democrats have promised to mend their ways by emphasizing moral values. So, in their first major legislative initiative of the year, what are the party's two top senators offering? A bill to guarantee that millions of convicted murderers, rapists and armed robbers can vote.

This week, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton and John Kerry will officially introduce the Count Every Vote Act, which she claims is "critical to restoring America's faith in our voting system." Among the provisions: A measure to insure that voting rights are restored to "felons who have repaid their debt to society" by completing their prison terms, parole or probation.

Sen. Clinton says there are 4.7 million such disenfranchised felons in 48 states and the District of Columbia.

The power to deny voting rights to ex-convicts now rests with the states, so standards vary across the country. The 14th Amendment to the Constitution explicitly allows for states to deny felons the right to vote.

Clinton and Kerry do have good reason to want ex-convicts to vote: Felons overwhelmingly vote for Democrats.

In recent academic work, Jeff Manza and Marcus Britton of Northwestern University and Christopher Uggen of the University of Minnesota estimated that Bill Clinton pulled 86 percent of the felon vote in 1992 and a whopping 93 percent in '96.

The researchers found that about 30 percent of felons vote when given the chance. So, if all 4.7 million of Mrs. Clinton's ex-cons are re-enfranchised, about 1.4 million will cast ballots, and about 1.2 million of those will be for Democrats.

Manza & Co.'s results indicate that this "felon vote" would have given Democrats the White House in the 2000 and control of the Senate from 1986 to 2004.

Seattle Times reporters last month identified 129 felons...

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; felon; felonvote; felony; glassman; voting
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1 posted on 03/01/2005 9:27:26 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
More heart and soul of America there, all right.
2 posted on 03/01/2005 9:28:58 AM PST by mewzilla (Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
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To: neverdem

The Democratic base....


3 posted on 03/01/2005 9:30:23 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: neverdem
They need to do something. Demographic trends show that by 2012, the red states will have enough electoral votes without Ohio to win the presidency (although the GOP will still need Florida).

At that point, look for Puerto Rican statehood to become an issue again.

TS

4 posted on 03/01/2005 9:30:42 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: neverdem

When you vote, you participate in a collective decision making process.

People that are felons are poor decision makers.

Their contribution to the vote would then tend to lead to poorer collective decisions.

Therefore their opinions should not be given the weight of a vote.


5 posted on 03/01/2005 9:32:10 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: neverdem

Of course the fact that felons vote democrat is yet more proof of their poor judgement.


6 posted on 03/01/2005 9:33:20 AM PST by mc6809e
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To: neverdem

One thing Clinton was always masterful at was knowing his base, Hitlery was clearly paying attention!


7 posted on 03/01/2005 9:33:42 AM PST by Pylot
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To: neverdem

Simple poison pill: Give felons, who have paid their debt, the right to own guns again too.


8 posted on 03/01/2005 9:36:47 AM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: neverdem

The poor Dems have to stoop so low...


9 posted on 03/01/2005 9:37:20 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: neverdem

If you had as many friends as Hillary who were or are behind bars, you would want to be able to count on their vote as well.

Remember McDougal? True to the end. But couldn't vote. And don't forget future felons. See tagline.

Such a shame....


10 posted on 03/01/2005 9:38:08 AM PST by Prost1 (New AG, Berger still free!)
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To: mc6809e
The fact that Democrats WANT felons' votes is clear proof of THEIR poor judgment.

If there is a way to further distance themselves from mainstream America, the Democrats will find it and continue to whine about being the 'odd man out'. Go figure!
11 posted on 03/01/2005 9:39:42 AM PST by SMARTY
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To: neverdem

I am highly skeptical of statistics that claim that Democrats would draw 80+ percent of the so-called felon vote.


12 posted on 03/01/2005 9:40:35 AM PST by Smogger
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To: mewzilla

moveon.org has an offshoot, called breakout.org..


13 posted on 03/01/2005 9:42:40 AM PST by ken5050 (The Dem party is as dead as the NHL..)
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To: mc6809e; cripplecreek

Would you support IQ testing as a means to certify voters?

If you are for not reinstating a felons rights, would you allow them to opt out of paying for the burden of those collective decisions?


14 posted on 03/01/2005 9:42:41 AM PST by CSM ("I just started shooting," said Gloria Doster, 56. "I was trying to blow his brains out ....")
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To: neverdem

Whats next,
Mass murderer (name) wins the Governers office in NY?


15 posted on 03/01/2005 9:43:39 AM PST by MaxMax (GOD BLESS AMERICA)
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To: neverdem

Mrs. Clinton trying to circumvent the Constitution - without bothering to go through the legitimate Amendment process.


16 posted on 03/01/2005 9:44:34 AM PST by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: neverdem

I wish it'd been a joke...


17 posted on 03/01/2005 9:44:44 AM PST by aliquis
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To: neverdem

neverdem

> IN the wake of their election defeat,
> Democrats have promised to mend their
> ways by emphasizing moral values. So,
> in their first major legislative initiative
> of the year, what are the party's two
> top senators offering? A bill to guarantee
> that millions of convicted murderers,
> rapists and armed robbers can vote

Now that is typical of the godless dems.

What should happen is that convicted felons
get transported to Alaska where they can build
their own sod huts on National Park land that
is otherwise going to waste; they'll be isolated
so as not to contaminate people with their presence
and, as a bonus, we can charge them rent for the
land to make up for the cost of their imprisonment
while they work in the oil fields.

Keep up the good work!


fr_poster


18 posted on 03/01/2005 9:45:43 AM PST by fr_poster
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To: Smogger

"I am highly skeptical of statistics that claim that Democrats would draw 80+ percent of the so-called felon vote."

I am highly skeptical also. I believe it is closer to 90+ percent.


19 posted on 03/01/2005 9:48:51 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: Wristpin

In other news, Clinton appeared at a rally for core supporters of the democrat party today at a graveyard in new york city, stressing the need for residents to get out the vote.


20 posted on 03/01/2005 9:49:41 AM PST by DixieOklahoma (Since 2004: real American voters = 1, dead democrats = 0)
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