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Dr SEUS's Birthday on Wed March 2. No Christmas, No Lincoln, No Washington, No Jefferson
March 1, 2005 | mlmr

Posted on 03/01/2005 11:42:00 AM PST by mlmr

Tomorrow is Dr Seuss’s birthday, the highest holiday of the elementary public school calendar. The close second is the 100th Day of School. This is our first year in the government’s education clutches…my 7 year old came home so gleeful…Mommy, I have to wear my cat costume today….it is Doctor Seuss’s Birthday!

Now I am not going to argue the merits of Seuss…but if I ever read Hop on Pop again I will self-destruct. I have four children all, thank God, well past the Green Eggs and Ham stage.

My daughter never came home to tell me that she had to dress up as Washington, or Betsy Ross, or as a Johnny Reb, or as a WWII WAC, or as one of the hundreds of heroes of American history. Yes, she did have some tasks to perform during Black History Month. However, Blacks are not the only ones with history in this country, not by a long shot.

If the teachers at our local elementary school put half the effort into history and other subjects that they do into such a non-event as a mediocre children’s author’s birthday…then perhaps we wouldn’t have as much cultural idiocy and failing grades... To tell you the truth all this focus on this “nothing event” is embarrassing. That I pay for it with my tax dollars and time out of my daughter’s life, is infuriating.

What is behind this focus on nothing? My daughter told me that her class was not permitted to talk about Christmas. That is the birthday of someone whose philosophy altered the course of Western Civilization. However, there is not even a cultural acknowledgment. Washington and Lincoln? Forget it… not even a story at story time. Jefferson? Franklin, Daniel Boone? What kind of culture erases its history?

Pol Pot’s? Stalin’s?.

Where on earth are we heading?


TOPICS: Books/Literature; History
KEYWORDS: education; government; happybirthday; schools
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1 posted on 03/01/2005 11:42:04 AM PST by mlmr
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To: mlmr
Mediocre children's author???

I enjoy reading his work to my grandson!

2 posted on 03/01/2005 11:48:06 AM PST by knittnmom
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To: mlmr

"mediocre children’s author"



I'm kind of curious about what childrens author meets with your approval. BTW kids around here still take presidents day off from school.


3 posted on 03/01/2005 11:52:07 AM PST by cripplecreek (The crippled stool is the cadillac of poopin stools.)
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To: mlmr

While I can see your point that the focus on Seuss for a holiday or special event could be out of line (in context of course) I disagree that he was a mediocre writer... for the age group his stories draw them into the joyful world of stories and words...


4 posted on 03/01/2005 11:52:50 AM PST by Barney59 (Now there's a man with an open mind - you can feel the breeze from here!)
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To: mlmr
"The close second is the 100th Day of School."

When did this 100th day of school thing start? I can't recall the hundreth day of school even being mentioned, let alone celebrated, when I was in elementary school (early 1980's). Yet at my kids school the "100 day party" is just about the biggest celebration the school has...

5 posted on 03/01/2005 11:53:32 AM PST by apillar
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To: mlmr

A stupid populace is easy to control.


6 posted on 03/01/2005 11:53:35 AM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: mlmr
To tell you the truth all this focus on this “nothing event” is embarrassing.

It gets kids to read.

(making note to self to wear "Cat in the Hat" tie tomorrow)

7 posted on 03/01/2005 11:54:36 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: cripplecreek

BTW kids around here still take presidents day off from school.


They don't around here.. it is part of vacation week. I could care less whether children had the holiday off, it is about the loss of our history in the schools.

I think Laura Ingalls Wilder is a great children's author for the elementary and primary grades.


8 posted on 03/01/2005 11:55:22 AM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

It gets kids to read.

So would stories of American History winsomely presented.


9 posted on 03/01/2005 11:56:48 AM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: apillar

It started as a non offensive PC holiday in the 90's by stupid school administrations.


I imagine teachers always celebrated it.


10 posted on 03/01/2005 11:57:53 AM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: mlmr

I happened to be home the other day and my niece had "Blue's Clues" on. The effeminate host got a "Love Day" card. I asked my wife what the $%^# is Love Day. She told me they are starting to wipe out the name "Valentine's Day". You could have knocked me over with a feather.


11 posted on 03/01/2005 11:58:08 AM PST by MattinNJ (Stop voter fraud-enact voter ID cards with photos w/ magnetic stripes that prevent multiple voting)
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To: Killborn

A stupid populace is easy to control.

Seems like they are getting dumber by the minute.

What is a people with an erased history?


12 posted on 03/01/2005 11:58:39 AM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: MattinNJ

She told me they are starting to wipe out the name "Valentine's Day". You could have knocked me over with a feather.


Oh yes, Valentine's Day is based on an historical, Christian character.

No history in our schools, only today!

No Columbus, Vasco de Gama, Marco Polo (unless you are talking about the game), Cortez...


14 posted on 03/01/2005 12:00:48 PM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: TonyRo76

Wait a second, I loved Dr. Seuss when I was a kid! His books were among my earliest pre-school memories, and the first book I ever read cover-to-cover was a Dr. Seuss book.

Seus was a decent author, but the issue is whether he is a good replacement for our history in our children's classroom education?


15 posted on 03/01/2005 12:02:09 PM PST by mlmr (The Naked and the Fred....is back!)
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To: mlmr

Slaves.


16 posted on 03/01/2005 12:09:45 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: Killborn

Slaves.

You think we are heading there as a culture?


17 posted on 03/01/2005 12:11:12 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: Killborn
A stupid populace is easy to control.

Yup. This ain't no accident.

The Underground History of American Education

19 posted on 03/01/2005 12:14:47 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: TonyRo76

I can't imagine any of my old grade school teachers reverting to children's books—even good ones like Seuss—in the classroom! But that was a different time (I'm only in my 30s; how sad is that?)

The libs' Gubmint Edgemukation cartel has apparently accelerated its dumbing-down efforts in recent years.

We are being robbed!
Thousands rally for school funding (it'll never be enough...)http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1353518/posts


20 posted on 03/01/2005 12:15:20 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: Aquinasfan

Yup. This ain't no accident.

The Underground History of American Education




I have read it and every citizen and taxpayer should.


21 posted on 03/01/2005 12:16:19 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: MattinNJ
She told me they are starting to wipe out the name "Valentine's Day".

That's funny. This (Saint) Valentine's (Feast) Day, I was wondering how the PC police missed it.

Homeschooling year five and loving it.

22 posted on 03/01/2005 12:17:46 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: mlmr

School = mind control


23 posted on 03/01/2005 12:18:10 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: mlmr

So what are you doing about the lack of history education in your child's school? Are you supplementing their education at home so they know the importance of what those who went before us did? Are you questioning the teacher, principal, curriculum director, or school board?

Posting here may raise the awareness of some FReepers, but it doesn't do anything else about this problem.

Personally, I have no time for public schools. I am a product of one, I taught in a few of them, and I have chosen to have my children in a parochial school because I know what the ones around here teach in terms of values. I also know how impossible it is to change what they teach to meet the needs of a child raised in a conservative and religious home.


24 posted on 03/01/2005 12:18:53 PM PST by freemama
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To: mlmr
No Child Left Behind.

Physical impossibility when they are ALL being left behind.

26 posted on 03/01/2005 12:20:00 PM PST by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan.)
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To: Aquinasfan

That's funny. This (Saint) Valentine's (Feast) Day, I was wondering how the PC police missed it.

They havent. It's going.


27 posted on 03/01/2005 12:25:29 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: mlmr
My daughter informed me that she needed to take candy to school to fill a Piñata as part of a Doctor Seuss’s Birthday. My reaction was: “That’s nice. Let’s go get some candy”. Referring to perhaps the most well known children’s author of all time as “mediocre” is ridiculous. “I will not eat them…” is not a familiar phrase to everybody because its author is mediocre. His stories have not been adapted into blockbuster movies that parents enjoy as much as kids due to mediocrity. Seuss’s writing teaches kids creativity with vocabulary and appreciation of poetry. It’s OK to let first and second graders have fun while honoring his contribution to their literature.

Abe Lincoln and Betsy Ross aren’t going anywhere. This is just a fun diversion, not PC BS. In limited quantities, fun diversions help kids digest the not so fun stuff. You wrote that your child is gleeful. Be happy for him/her. If you stick with government schools, someday they will be teaching your kid to roll a condom over a banana. If you push the outrage button for stuff like this, you’ll be too exhausted by the time that happens to do anything about it.

28 posted on 03/01/2005 12:25:55 PM PST by Minn
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To: freemama

So what are you doing about the lack of history education in your child's school? Are you supplementing their education at home so they know the importance of what those who went before us did? Are you questioning the teacher, principal, curriculum director, or school board?

I supplement and this is the dry run for my local paper. But in reality, few care. A few months ago I brought it to the attention of local parents that the local school counselor could have FIVE sessions with their child without parental permission...nothing! Few care.


29 posted on 03/01/2005 12:27:56 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: iconoclast

Physical impossibility when they are ALL being left behind

Not mine,she is out of there as soon as I can.


30 posted on 03/01/2005 12:28:36 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: mlmr
If the teachers at our local elementary school put half the effort into history and other subjects that they do into such a non-event as a mediocre children’s author’s

Well I was taking you seriously until this part....now Im just gotta laugh at you, roll my eyes and walk away from this thread.

31 posted on 03/01/2005 12:31:17 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Minn

“I will not eat them…” is not a familiar phrase to everybody because its author is mediocre

So are hundreds of commercial phrases, in the seventies it was "I cant believe I ate the whole thing"

"Pepsi for those who think young"

Catchphrases do not good literature make.


My point is that at least in my daugher's school, Betsy and the rest dont get any attention. The entire school day appears to be a diversion...and history is getting a short short handle.


32 posted on 03/01/2005 12:33:56 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
(making note to self to wear "Cat in the Hat" tie tomorrow)

Good point. I'll wear my "One Fish, Two Fish..." tie.

33 posted on 03/01/2005 12:34:06 PM PST by r9etb
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To: mlmr

"...a mediocre children’s author’s birthday..."

I understand the point you're trying to make but you may have stepped in some oobleck here.


34 posted on 03/01/2005 12:36:02 PM PST by beelzepug (Parking For Witches Only--All Others Will Be Toad.)
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To: r9etb
Good point. I'll wear my "One Fish, Two Fish..." tie.


OK, if I agree that he is a good author, will you address the focus of the post, which is Suess and other small issues supplanting history in curriculum
35 posted on 03/01/2005 12:36:06 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: beelzepug

I understand the point you're trying to make but you may have stepped in some oobleck here.

I am beginning to see this...too many Dr Seuss birthdays in the past ten years, there is no turning back.

OK. Suess is not a mediocre author.


36 posted on 03/01/2005 12:37:38 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: Aquinasfan
At my kids school they celebrate Mommy's birthday and take the day off...
37 posted on 03/01/2005 12:45:48 PM PST by DYngbld (Homeschool..... Home is cool)
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To: Aquinasfan

It's part and parcel of the liberal plot to conquer America.


38 posted on 03/01/2005 12:52:10 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: mlmr
LOL - no, he isn't, and bless you for saying so even if One Fish, Two Fish has half driven you round the bend. I sympathize. Heckuva an illustrator, too. Pity his politics were occasionally immature. His PC environmentalist garbage The Lorax or his denunciation of the arms race The Butter Battle were eminently forgettable, IMHO, although the Jesse Jackson race hucksters take a beating in The Sneetches, and Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose is a cautionary tale about society's freeloaders. There's a fine line between propagandizing the kiddies and entertaining them.

I have to agree with you about history education, too, but reaching kids there is incredibly challenging. It's just tough for them to understand the importance of history when they've lived so little of it.

39 posted on 03/01/2005 12:54:25 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: mlmr

Not yet. If the American ppl sit back and do nothing however...

A good way to determine how far we've sunk is to look at Europe and Canada. We are not there yet. But if we are, we have a problem.


40 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:40 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: mlmr
Catchphrases do not good literature make.

Green Eggs & Ham is not a commercial catch phrase, it’s classic American literature for children. Actually though “I can’t believe I ate the whole thing” is a classic in it’s own right. I’m sure it’s sometimes discussed in graduate level marketing classes, and rightly so. Never heard that Pepsi one. When the topic is literature, and the audience is children, who can top Seuss? Tell me you don’t get just a little warm and fuzzy inside every time the Grinch himself carves the roast beast. The fact that millions upon millions have felt that same warm fuzziness every December for decades on end indicates greatness, not mediocrity.

My point is that at least in my daugher's school, Betsy and the rest dont get any attention. The entire school day appears to be a diversion...and history is getting a short short handle.

I’m the last one to apologize for the retched state of government schools, but wrote that you daughter is seven. The basics of grammar and arithmetic are what count now. You still got 10 or 11 years for Appomattox. If you’re still seeing nothing by fifth grade, perhaps you need to open your check book and escape to private a private school.

41 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:56 PM PST by Minn
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To: mlmr

Not yet. If the American ppl sit back and do nothing however...

A good way to determine how far we've sunk is to look at Europe and Canada. We are not there yet. But if we are, we have a problem.


42 posted on 03/01/2005 12:55:56 PM PST by Killborn (It's called C4. Use lots and lots of it.)
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To: mlmr
"Those who control the present control the past. Those who control the past control the future".

George Orwell's 1984.
43 posted on 03/01/2005 12:56:56 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (Let's get serious: Who you gonna believe? Me or your lyin' eyes?)
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To: mlmr

Some of his WWII cartoons have particular relevance today.

44 posted on 03/01/2005 1:00:58 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around.....)
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To: mlmr
OK, if I agree that he is a good author, will you address the focus of the post, which is Suess and other small issues supplanting history in curriculum

No. I'm too busy admiring the Tasmanian Devil tie I'm wearing today.... ;-)

Seriously, though... I don't see a Dr. Suess celebration as "supplanting history" in the curriculum. It's a silly thing over which to get your panties in a twist.

I will certainly agree that history seems to have fallen by the wayside in schools, to be replaced by crap. That's a serious problem.

But for heaven's sake: I can't think of a better way for you to marginalize yourself than by going on the warpath about Dr. Suess. If you want to get upset about a bad history curriculum, get upset about it directly, rather than venting your wrath over something that's fun for the kids.

45 posted on 03/01/2005 1:08:20 PM PST by r9etb
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To: mlmr
My youngest is a seven year old boy. Oldest is a 21 year old college junior...so I have been at this public education thing for a while. Not sure if you seven year old is your oldest and this is your first time thru elementary school as a parent.

The primary grades, one and two, are for the basics...reading, writing, basic math, spelling, etc. History, social studies, etc., come into study during fourth grade and continue thru high school.

I wouldn't get too upset with your school or your daughter's teacher for celebrating Dr. Suess's birthday...or the 100th day of school. With the younger, elementary kids special days generate excitement...they look forward to these 'events.' Tomorrow, I am one of the moms going into my son's second grade room to read a selected Dr. Suess book. Two weeks ago, I took off work to volunteer at my 5th grader's 'Colonial Day's' celebration (public schools really do study history...and occasionally try to make that fun as well). My best (practiced) advice...if at all possible volunteer in your kids school (be it public or porochial). You get to see what is going on first hand, and you really come away with a sense of what goes on in their classrooms each day.

46 posted on 03/01/2005 1:21:47 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (I used to take the highroad, but the altitude gave me nose bleeds....)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

I have homeschooled for ten years and have a indepth knowledge of curiculum. I know what second and third graders should know and should be studying and the lack of the basic history is there... at least in the school my daughter attends. I sat and read the textbooks the classes are using at elementary levels...they are appalling...particularly for one who is used to well written and well organized homeschool texts. Are you familiar with Hirsh's What every First Grader Should Know? It is a series that covers K-6 grade.

I recommend it.


47 posted on 03/01/2005 5:31:00 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I saw this one a while back.


48 posted on 03/01/2005 5:32:06 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: r9etb

But for heaven's sake: I can't think of a better way for you to marginalize yourself than by going on the warpath about Dr. Suess. If you want to get upset about a bad history curriculum, get upset about it directly, rather than venting your wrath over something that's fun for the kids.

There is no place to punch in "the Blob" . I dont actually think I will have an effect.


49 posted on 03/01/2005 5:33:27 PM PST by mlmr (The "Naked and the Fred"....is back!)
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To: mlmr

Reread "Horton hears a Who."

It is perhaps the most complete moral fable ever created. It takes on prejudice, gossip while extolling the virtues of loyalty and the importance of even a single person.

After that read the "The Lorax."

You are wrong about the good Doctor. He was a writer par excellance.


50 posted on 03/01/2005 5:35:01 PM PST by freedumb2003 (BS is stimulated whenever a personís desire to speak on a topic exceed his knowledge of the facts)
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