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Russian Claims Chechens Have Nuclear Device
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Posted on 03/01/2005 11:56:41 AM PST by Pendragon_6

Boris Berezovsky has claimed that Chechen rebels possess a nuclear weapon.

“It is a small portable device which had not been used until now for only one reason: because some necessary element was missing,” the exiled Russian oligarch told Komsomolskaya Pravda, citing “credible sources.”

Berezovsky said he wrote a letter to Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) about this danger last autumn.

Asked to respond to Berezovsky's claims about a Chechen nuke, a security official told the newspaper, “We do not believe it necessary to comment on statements, especially delirious ones, made by people who are on the international wanted list.”

But the Berezovsky claim matches that of U.S. security officials, who have said that al-Qaida has obtained a small nuclear device -- perhaps a “suitcase nuke” from the Russian arsenal. Sources have claimed that the weapons cannot be detonated because the trigger mechanism is not working.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alqaedanukes; caucasus; chechens; chechnya; koranimals; loosenukes; proliferation; russia; suitcasenukes; terrorism; trop; wmd

1 posted on 03/01/2005 11:56:41 AM PST by Pendragon_6
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To: Pendragon_6

Boris Berezovsky is a criminal and hardly credible.


2 posted on 03/01/2005 11:57:43 AM PST by free_european
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To: free_european

This style of nuke has a short shelf-life, too.

Various components must be periodically "refreshed" to keep a fusion bomb functional.


3 posted on 03/01/2005 12:04:01 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Pendragon_6

Somebody has one, and somebody will get one fixed up and working. It's inevitable. It's going to happen somewhere. It's just a matter of time.


4 posted on 03/01/2005 12:13:49 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Pendragon_6
This is getting out of hand.  There's a few people I'm pissed at ... can I join the Nuke of the Month Club, too?

Will Ethiopia become a nuclear superpower by 2010?

5 posted on 03/01/2005 12:16:49 PM PST by usgator
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To: MeanWestTexan
This style of nuke has a short shelf-life, too.

Pretty soon mankind will too.

6 posted on 03/01/2005 12:17:41 PM PST by usgator
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To: Sender

Unfortunately, that's probably true. Eventually some crazy jerks are going to get a nuke and use the thing. I'm glad I don't live in a major metropolitan area.


7 posted on 03/01/2005 12:20:54 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: free_european
Boris Berezovsky is a criminal and hardly credible.

Yes and other criminals want to punish him.
8 posted on 03/01/2005 12:21:20 PM PST by Lukasz (Terra Polonia Semper Fidelis!)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Various components must be periodically "refreshed" to keep a fusion bomb functional.

These small devices would have to be fission, but other than that you're correct. They require maintenance and have components that degrade.
9 posted on 03/01/2005 12:21:29 PM PST by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Pendragon_6

I have long contended that if the russian mob sold off suit case nukes they would have disabled them some how. I mean where are you going to test it? Of course there was that ..."earthquake"? in the artic during clintons administration that looked like an explosion... but we will see.


10 posted on 03/01/2005 12:23:22 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: Pendragon_6
I heard this back when the UN was first deployed to Kosovo. I have always half believed it.
11 posted on 03/01/2005 12:24:41 PM PST by SMARTY
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To: zencat

It is my understanding that Russia has a full-fledged suitcase fusion (hydrogen) weapon. The fission warhead to trigger the fusion is the size of a grapefruit.


12 posted on 03/01/2005 12:25:11 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Walkingfeather

Maybe they'll "test" it in the middle of a major American city.


13 posted on 03/01/2005 12:25:36 PM PST by TKDietz
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To: MeanWestTexan
"It is my understanding that Russia has a full-fledged suitcase fusion (hydrogen) weapon. The fission warhead to trigger the fusion is the size of a grapefruit."

Never heard that. From what I know of the Russian "suitcase" nukes they are 1/4 to 1Kt in size fission devices. I believe the smallest thermonuclear fusion device is the US W88 warhead. The design the Chi-Coms tried to steal.
14 posted on 03/01/2005 12:30:06 PM PST by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: TKDietz

Maybe they already have and nothing happened.


15 posted on 03/01/2005 12:34:49 PM PST by Walkingfeather (q)
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To: zencat

I hope you are correct.


16 posted on 03/01/2005 12:36:02 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: zencat


The smallest nuke the US ever deployed was the W-54 Davy Crockett (shown above with launcher).



Remember, the W-54 was from 1954! So this technology is half a century old. W-88 was from 1988... about the time we stopped building nukes.
17 posted on 03/01/2005 12:38:19 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thanks, you beat me to it. The utility of a suitcase nuke for terrorists with limited acess to technology is grossly overstated.


18 posted on 03/01/2005 12:40:09 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (.)
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To: zencat
W88/Mk-5 Warhead/Reentry Vehicle Package
Yield 475 Kt
Weight <800 lb ?
Length 68.9 in
RV Base Diameter 21.8 in
Nose Half Angle 8.2 degrees
Number In Service 400


The w-88 package is under 900 lbs. But that's the whole re-entry package.
19 posted on 03/01/2005 12:43:28 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: Bon mots
Yes, but the W-54 is a fission device with a yield around .5Kt or so. The W88, a small fusion device is 22 inches wide and 69 inches long with a yield of 475Kt.

500 tons of TNT, vs. 475,000 tons of TNT.

It's like 1/38 of a Hiroshima vs. 38 Hiroshimas.

James
20 posted on 03/01/2005 12:48:44 PM PST by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: Pendragon_6

Perhaps just maybe, this will cause Putin to rethink his deal with Iran.


21 posted on 03/01/2005 12:54:05 PM PST by marvlus
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To: Godzilla; Cindy

Pinging to post # 12...


22 posted on 03/01/2005 12:59:25 PM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG.....)
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To: zencat
The design the Chi-Coms tried to steal.

Tried, and successful?

23 posted on 03/01/2005 1:04:13 PM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: TKDietz
I'm glad I don't live in a major metropolitan area.

Me too. I live in the middle of nowhere by design.

24 posted on 03/01/2005 1:07:09 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: Pendragon_6

Possible, however, it would be more likely for Russia to claim that they lost one or more nukes, and secretly sell / proliferate them (or hide them internally). The best (worst?) treaty cheaters the world has ever known - even more skilled at it than Weimar Germany was.


25 posted on 03/01/2005 1:11:35 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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