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Posted on 03/02/2005 8:34:04 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage
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GREEN CARDS AND GANGS
Siskiyou County, California, Feb. 26, 2005
They come from Mexico for jobs by way of a document called a green card. Such immigrants are termed legal permanent Residents with many of the same rights as US citizens outlined here,
o To live permanently in the United States provided you do not commit any actions that would make you removable (deportable) under the immigration law (section 237, Immigration and Nationality Act). o To be employed in the United States at any legal work of your qualification and choosing. o To be protected by all of the laws of the United States, your state of residence and local jurisdictions. o To vote in local elections where United States Citizenship is not required. Click here for more details on voting. Exceptions o Some jobs will be limited to United States Citizens because of security concerns. http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/PermRes.htm
Today Siskiyou county Sheriff Rick Riggins and Captain Mike Murphy presented a slide show and details of Marijuana growing operations on federal forest land as a warning to residents of the dangers of happening across one of these farms. These operations are spearheaded by various Latino gangs, one being the powerful, well armed MS-13 gang that began in El Salvador. Sheriff Riggins stated that his biggest problem in combating this scourge is his office being labeled, "racist".
On Sept. 11, 2004, one such farm was busted by the Sheriff with help from BLM and the forest service netting thousands of plants and several Mexicans who either held green cards or were awol from the Mexican military and in this country illegally. These raids are no simple task as the terrain is nearly insurmountable and usually remote, however one growing operation was within 2 miles of the city limits of Etna, California. Resources are limited in such small counties, with little help from federal officials, even though this organized criminal enterprise has been going on in these mountains for many years. Homeland Security says such operations are not their concern.
The gangs are back this year getting ready for next falls harvest to be distributed across the US. Their supplies and equipment will be brought in from the cities and deliveries to replenish them are undertaken at night every few weeks. The farms are guarded at all times.
Slides of the camps complete with a hooch for living were shown. Huge pits are dug, one big enough for an SUV, for garbage and waste. The trees are cut or skinned to pile moats around the farms to camouflage them. Black irrigation pipe is buried for miles to get water to the plants. The environment on our national lands is being degraded by these operations, destroying habitat and watershed purity.
We saw the AK-47s, axes, shovels, a . 22 rifle with the name Los Pleves scratched on the stock. We saw notebooks of the growers with markings of MS-13 and a drawing of a Lexus that one immigrant intended to buy with the drug profits.
Most of the farms appear to be run by the same organizations mostly through the Mexican Mafia year after year. Though a few are busted, a substantive dent has not been made and they know they can operate here more safely and profitably than in Mexico and there is no worry of getting the product back into the states.
Across the border in Oregon, the story is the same. The Sheriffs of Jackson, Josephine and Klamath County work together to find the farms and arrest the perpetrators. All have been Mexican so far, most with green cards. These same gangs also brew Methanphetimine to finance their organized crime activities during off season.
We do not need yet another guest worker program to supply dangerous gangs with recruits. We need to find out why these people were ever allowed in this country in the first place and how to keep more of them out.
Siskiyou County, California TheTownCrier@gmail.com
While I agree with a lot that Michelle is saying here, she misses a point about the initiative the First Lady is undertaking. She is going to concentrate on boys in the schools and how they are left behind in terms of their reading ability, etc. That does NOT take law enforcement.
BARACADE THE BORDERS!!!!!!
geeze Bush is as bad as Clinton when it comes to illegals and legals.....it aint worth the few votes.
Count on Michele to tell it like it is.
"As I've been reporting in previous columns and on the blog, the most notorious criminal alien gang on the scene is Mara Salvatrucha/MS-13. They're on the border, in the suburbs, and now...in our national forests. Earlier this week, I spoke with Siskiyou County, Calif., sheriff Rick Riggins, who has uncovered massive marijuana farms in our federal forests . Riggins reports that the Mexican Mafia and MS-13 paraphernalia have been discovered on the scene."
" she misses a point about the initiative the First Lady"
Did you see the point she is trying to make about the infiltration of these gangs everywhere? The point is, school boys are not the problem these gangs are and NO ONE is paying attention in the white house.
A criminal gang in effect declares war on the rest of us.
You respond to a declaration of war with war.
You know the rules!
Isn't that lovely that they get green cards, but a hard working Canadian girl with a Bachelor's degree can't get one to join the US Navy or Marine Corps.
Something's wrong with the immigration policy when they'll take people from every cesspool on earth but avoid places that aren't "diverse" enough. I thought they'd want people who blended into society.
The beauty part is the "Supremes" decision about the death penalty for teenagers.
I wouldn't say that no one is paying attention to the gang problem. Law enforcement is paying attention. Why just today I saw an FNC infomercial for an upcoming special they have on this very matter.
What would you like the White House to do?
It would be nice if Homeland Security considered this growing gang presence in small communities part of their charge, but they do not.
I'm sorry, but I can't get this machine to post a photo!
I am no expert, but these gangs have "codes" and all sorts of messages, so I wouldn't be surprised. There is another article up today about how very young kids, 10 years old are recruited.
"The beauty part is the "Supremes" decision about the death penalty for teenagers."
It wouldn't have helped if the gang banger was Mexican, since we honor their laws of NO DEATH PENALTY.
Illegals who are willing to vote Democrat immediately are welcomed. ;)
A hard working Canadian girl with a Bachelor's degree can come to America legally can't she? Perhaps not to work in the armed forces, don't know those rules.
But you are so correct, there is something wrong with an immigration policy that allows illegal entry of every lowlife when their own country doesn't want them due to crime. Sickening.
Thanks for this and other pings related to the illegal immigration disaster.
I believe Sheriff Riggins.
The Politically Correct Brownshirters -- the ACLU and their proxies -- the Courts and both U.S. Houses by virtue of "Hate Crime" legislation -- has crippled U.S. Law Enforcement.
And I wonder how the DoJ would react to KKK, Skinheads, and White Supremicists overrunning cities and towns across the country spreading drugs, murder, and mayhem throughout America?
Again -- Homeland Security, the DoJ, AND the Bush Administration is negligent in protecting it's OWN citizenry.
The irony is not lost when one looks at the committment, conviction, resources, and energy spent for Afghan and Iraqi "security."
Sounds like you wouldn't cause any problems for the taxpayers. Get yourself a police record and sneak over the border.
I remember your posting a few weeks ago, evidently you've had no luck. Yes, there is something very wrong with our immigration policy. Two of the gang bangers mentioned in the above article were from well know Mexican crime families, but they got green cards. I am left with the observation that green cards are given out willy nilly to those from south of the border. I'm so sorry you are not part of this country!
How do you know they don't? There is a huge special coming up on FNC about how LE is attacking this problem.
Because local law enforcement says Homeland security won't help,(in the articles) they are only interested in "terrorists". Call a few of them, they'll tell you.
Well then, what are the people who are so worried about this going to do about it? How about writing some letters to the editor, calling your local police department, writing letters to Congress, etc. Let's not just complain about stuff...get active.
And just as an aside, I would take a few people who are quoted anonymously seriously. I'd be completely shocked if Homeland Security wasn't aware of this problem and finding ways to address it.
I heard that Fox News is having a special program on gangs. It's supposed to be hosted by Newt Gingrich. Can anyone confirm? I didn't find it listed on their web site.
Seems like it will be as effective as "Just say NO" You would have to remove them from the home environment to do any good at all
"Well then, what are the people who are so worried about this going to do about it? How about writing some letters to the editor, calling your local police department, writing letters to Congress, etc. Let's not just complain about stuff...get active."
That's what were doing here. This is not a social club for me.
"We can fix the border, together."
I agree. But that "together" means some input from the feds, not just the BLM or forest service, which is all the help offered so far.
Where is the line between a criminal gang that crosses international borders, then proceeds to rape, mutilate, kill and rob citizens, and terrorists? ANY widespread criminal activity that serves to intimidate and threaten law-abiding citizens is by its very definition terrorist.
A gang made up of members who have fled their own country, and has reconstituted its objective in another country, is every bit as much a terrorist organization as young men that left Saudi Arabia for Iraq and Afghanistan, and subsequently went into a third country with great mischief in mind.
Homeland Security should be making this sort of activity a much higher priority than has been done up to now. Local police can do the necessary groundwork in locating and capturing these outlaws, but then once captured, the necessary support to ensure these gangsters are NEVER again a threat to the locality should be provided.
Good. For lots of people, it is a social club and I think the former silent majority and younger generation needs to be a bit more pro-active.
"ANY widespread criminal activity that serves to intimidate and threaten law-abiding citizens is by its very definition terrorist."
One would think so. From what I'm seeing, illegals and gangs have caused more death and destruction than 9/ll did.
The answer may not be the governments problem to solve properly. This is America, a capitalist, competition based economy. Why not allow bidding to occur on contracts to defend the border. Private companies provide all kinds of military support to our government, the range of power to enforce the border would require strict controls against conflict with local, State, and Federal law enforcement.
Interesting bit from the gangbangers themselves.
Mara Salvatruchas to take on
the Minutemen vigilantes
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - March 1, 2005 - (ACN) It looks like there is going to be a "showdown at OK corral" on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. A high level leader of the Mara Salvatruchas, Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, has issued orders, from federal prison, to members of his extremely violent organization to teach the Minutemen vigilantes a lesson they will never forget, La Voz de Aztlan has learned.
The Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) are a consequence of USA policies in Central America and are just another example of "the chickens coming home to roost". Its members are the sons of immigrants from El Salvador and other Central American countries that were forced to flee because of the CIA instigated war during the Reagan Administration that completely destroyed the physical, economic, social, religious and cultural infrastructure of the region. MS-13 was founded in Los Angeles by the offspring of the immigrants for protection. Later, many of the members were deported back to Central America where they expanded their operations and joined up with former members of the Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front (FMLN).
Today, the Mara Salvatruchas have grown immensely in numbers and their network has expanded through Mexico all the way to Canada. The extremely violent group controls large portions of the drug, stolen vehicle and immigrant smuggling operations along the US/Mexico border and will not put up with clowns like the Minutemen vigilantes. The amateurish Minutemen may be in for a big surprise on April Fools Day and on the subsequent days that they plan to patrol the border with Mexico in Arizona. The Mara Salvatruchas are known to cut the "testicles" of their enemies and feed them to their vicious dogs. Other times they have cut the heads off their opponents to play football soccer with them. These are not people to mess around with.
There is a good probability that very few cowardly Minutemen vigilantes will show up on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. The principal imbeciles organizing the event are known to be mere loudmouths. The morons think that they will be just having "some fun in the sun" hunting down defenseless Mexican migrant workers but instead may meet up with the devil himself. Satan has a very warped sense of humor and April 1st would be an excellent day to express it.
We've written too and aren't giving any more $$ until they handle judicial nominees.
We've written too and aren't giving any more $$ until they handle judicial nominees.<<
I wonder if something "formal" can be started. A letter perhaps stating what we expect, and how much we will no longer spend..with signatures attached?
I am hoping to make some impact by involving several of my friends here locally. Rather than individual letters that could be overlooked, one large one with the dolloras they will loose given as a total on the bottom would have impact.
I cant write it. I'm no good at that!
Be sure to see post 47.