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Finding the Ultimate Theory of Everything
RedNove ^ | Today? | Marcus Chown

Posted on 03/02/2005 10:11:19 AM PST by Michael Barnes

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To: Michael Barnes

You lost me at "Could"...


21 posted on 03/02/2005 10:42:21 AM PST by thefactor
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To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer; ThinkPlease
"However, it is always possible we are seeing two galaxies that just happen to look surprisingly similar."

Watch for a supernova, and see if it appears in both images..... that ought to resolve the question.

22 posted on 03/02/2005 10:46:51 AM PST by longshadow
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To: Michael Barnes

"These are dubbed branes, or p-branes"

23 posted on 03/02/2005 10:47:42 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Democrat Obstructionists will be Daschled!)
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To: SMARTY

No no no. Alternate universes are exactly like this one, except that everyone has bad goatees and is evil (everyone who is good, and beardless, in this universe, anyway). C'mon, every Star Trek: TOS fan know that :)


24 posted on 03/02/2005 10:48:33 AM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Darkwolf377

Read in "A brief history of time," about Steven Hawking's encounter with the Pope. Hawking thought he was explaining away the mysteries of the universe to the Pope, nullifying the need for God. The Pope asked many questions, and Hawkings notes how the Pope understood what he said with uncanny brilliance. He asked the Pope what he thought about it all. The Pope asked to meet him again the next day. The Pope's reply, highly paraphrased, was "See? We told you so."

Hawkins understood at that moment that cosmology had actually been certifying as correct the Catholic Church's understanding of the nature of the universe. From that time on, he has been maniacal in his attempts to undermine the theories he had presented to the Pope, with preposterous results that have been proved wrong at every opportunity to observe excpected consequences.

IIRC, Hawkins believed in many dimensions, but rejected the string theory's notion that they were flat. Rather, he believed that the 5th dimension was quantum probability, where every possibility occurs in an infinite number of "parallel universes."

Just wait 'til he finds out that the 5th dimension is stitched together like a quilt, and the junctures in time and space occur at the Holy Sacrifice.

(I'm sort of playing: The Catholic Church holds that time and space are suspended so every instance of the Holy Sacrifice of Mass, is really the same Holy Sacrifice at Calvary, presented miraculously through time and space into every tabernacle in the world. Pretty heady stuff to have come up centuries before Galileo had tried to use Copernicus' observation to prove God as we know him did not exist. And yes, to all the Protestants who love to cluck at the Catholic Church's heresy trials of Galileo, that was what the fuss was about.

And I'm sort of not playing: I truly will be fascinated to go to heaven and find how all this multidimensional stuff relates to mystical constructs. It's way above my understanding to relate two incredibly divergent topics like I've done, but I'd seriously love to know if there is any relation.)


25 posted on 03/02/2005 10:53:16 AM PST by dangus
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To: Brad Cloven

MMmmm.... Branes!


26 posted on 03/02/2005 10:53:52 AM PST by dangus
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To: Michael Barnes
Not charged vacuum emboitments??


27 posted on 03/02/2005 11:03:41 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Michael Barnes

Great article. Thanks.

Oh - if you want to read the paper on CSL-1, there is a link from the article at RedNova that takes you to a .pdf of the paper.


28 posted on 03/02/2005 11:09:03 AM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Michael Barnes

....... 42


29 posted on 03/02/2005 11:09:12 AM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Michael Barnes
"Finding the Ultimate Theory of Everything"

These guys are slow. My daughter's already found it.

30 posted on 03/02/2005 11:10:18 AM PST by spunkets
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To: -YYZ-

Don't forget the South Park episode that took this pattern. Only, Cartman's counterpart was "good"...

Hillarious stuff.


31 posted on 03/02/2005 11:12:37 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: seowulf

I knew when I read the thread title that someone would beat me to it.

Anyone think the movie will be any good?

(If you don't know what we're discussing, never mind...)


32 posted on 03/02/2005 11:13:46 AM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: spunkets

Beer is the answer to everything. What was the question again?


33 posted on 03/02/2005 11:19:47 AM PST by Thebaddog (Dawgs off the coffee table.)
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To: Thebaddog

That explains the foam.


34 posted on 03/02/2005 11:27:23 AM PST by spunkets
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To: dangus

"The Catholic Church holds that time and space are suspended so every instance of the Holy Sacrifice of Mass, is really the same Holy Sacrifice at Calvary, presented miraculously through time and space into every tabernacle in the world."

Thanks, dangus, that is the simplest explanation I have ever heard.

Strings, dimensionality, time/space issues are all endlessly fascinating. One does have a tendency to become unstuck (ala Billy Pilgim in Slaughterhouse 5) unless one is grounded in the reality that: "He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." Col 1:17


35 posted on 03/02/2005 11:32:42 AM PST by newheart (The Truth? You can't handle the Truth. But He can handle you.)
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To: Michael Barnes
"And Schild and his colleagues calculate that the string must be remarkably close to us - well within our Milky Way galaxy."

Hmmmm, this does not sound good to me.

36 posted on 03/02/2005 11:53:03 AM PST by jpsb
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


37 posted on 03/02/2005 11:55:24 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: dangus

"I always felt there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe."


38 posted on 03/02/2005 12:15:49 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: Michael Barnes

This is some of the big string news that string theory has been looking for. Whether it holds up or not remains to be seen.


39 posted on 03/02/2005 12:32:24 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: dangus
Thanks for such a terrific post. I'm not a believer but I find the subject of belief and how it confronts scientific explanations for reality and the creation of the universe fascinating. Too often it turns into some atheist sourpuss going "one up" (in his mind) on a beleiver who merely doesn't have the capacity to get into the topic at hand in much depth.

It's interesting how you pointed out that Hawking was peeved at the Pope's responses and then spent time trying to disprove the Pope's position. I'd never heard about that. Thanks again for posting.

40 posted on 03/02/2005 12:35:43 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Condi Rice: Yeaaahhh, baybee! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1350654/posts)
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