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Woman testifies that mother's wrongful embalming haunts her
Sun-Sentinel ^ | 3.3.05

Posted on 03/03/2005 12:04:12 PM PST by ambrose

Woman testifies that mother's wrongful embalming haunts her

By Jon Burstein

Staff Writer

March 3, 2005

The daughter of a woman embalmed against her wishes testified Wednesday that she's haunted by the thought her mother's remains were used as a final exam by Lynn University funeral services students.

Sarah Anne Sanchez broke down as she described suffering from nightmares where her mother Madeline Post seems angry and confused. Despite a request by Post's husband that her remains be cremated in accordance with her religious beliefs, her body was embalmed at the Boca Raton mortuary school program before it was turned to ash.

"Until the day I die, I will remember what has been done to my mother's body," Sanchez testified in the civil case resulting from the handling of her mother's remains.

Sanchez and her stepfather, Jeffrey Post, are suing Professional Transport Systems Inc., the body-hauling business hired to transport the cancer victim's body, and company owner Joseph Damiano. Damiano had four decades' experience transporting, storing and cremating corpses in Florida.

The Post family alleges that Professional Transport Systems Inc. had been hired in November 2000 to drive Madeline Post's body six miles from a funeral home to a crematory, but instead held on to the body for 18 days, with a detour to the university. The university paid the transport company for use of the body, the family's attorneys argue.

Post's family reached confidential out-of-court settlements with Lynn University and Levitt-Weinstein Funeral Home before the case went before a Broward Circuit Court jury.

Damiano has denied knowing how Post's body ended up at the university, repeatedly saying in sworn statements that his company was "strictly a courier service."

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1 posted on 03/03/2005 12:04:13 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Somebody call John Edwards...she needs a lawyer!


2 posted on 03/03/2005 12:04:51 PM PST by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: ambrose

I'll bet a nice 6 figure settlement will make it all better....


3 posted on 03/03/2005 12:06:49 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (What God hath made, no man can kill it out.)
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To: CT CONSERVATIVE
...she needs a lawyer!

and a voter registration form

4 posted on 03/03/2005 12:07:10 PM PST by Revelation 911
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To: ambrose

Some people don't have enough to do with their lives, so they haunt the dead.


5 posted on 03/03/2005 12:08:25 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Perhaps, but I am on the side of the paintiffs in this case.


6 posted on 03/03/2005 12:11:34 PM PST by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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To: ambrose

We have an ongoing investigation going on right now in Texas. A van was repossessed and picked up by a towing company, who took it to the bank. The bank then called the towing company back and told them to come back and get the van and get rid of the 3 bodies in it. It was repossessed from some company who moves bodies and the bodies were going for cremation. The kicker is, those people died like 5 years ago!

They are trying to figure out what the heck is going on and why those decomposed bodies are still joyriding around town.


7 posted on 03/03/2005 12:12:31 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: ambrose
Sarah Anne Sanchez broke down as she described suffering from nightmares where her mother Madeline Post seems angry and confused.

No so bad that a little money won't fix it.

8 posted on 03/03/2005 12:13:16 PM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: ambrose

Oh, for the love of God. She's DEAD. She does not care what is done to her body. Why are her relatives freaking out?


9 posted on 03/03/2005 12:13:20 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: krb

Me too.


10 posted on 03/03/2005 12:14:32 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: Xenalyte
OK, how about we leave your moms dead body in a room full of necrophiliacs. She's dead, right...who cares?
11 posted on 03/03/2005 12:15:55 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: ambrose
Also taking the witness stand Wednesday was Jeffrey Post, who said he felt as if his heart had been ripped out when he learned what happened to his wife's body. Post said he and his wife believed that getting embalmed was "a great sin."

"Embalming means that [Madeline] will no longer be in heaven in God," Jeffrey Post said. "It is an absolute, absolute terrible thing. That means when I pass I can't spend eternity with her."

What religion teaches this?! I know in Judaism and Islam, as well as some Christian sects, people are buried asap after death but I have never heard anything like this.

I can't see how G-d would blame the dearly departed for her body being treated in a way outside her will by denying her access to heaven. I smell greed here.

12 posted on 03/03/2005 12:16:16 PM PST by Tamar1973 (The path to conservative brilliance starts at Free Republic!)
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To: tuffydoodle

That is just creepy. You gotta wonder who was driving that van around for all those years & why they didn't notice the small.


13 posted on 03/03/2005 12:16:50 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: AppyPappy

undisclosed settlement...."I'm feeling better already!"


14 posted on 03/03/2005 12:16:57 PM PST by liberateUS
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To: ambrose
"Until the day I die, I will remember what ha$ been done to my mother'$ body," $anchez te$tified in the civil ca$e re$ulting from the handling of her mother'$ remain$.
15 posted on 03/03/2005 12:18:36 PM PST by Ignatz (Scribe of the Unwritten Law)
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To: feinswinesuksass

Actually, Mom's very much alive and would likely kick the ass of anyone who tried any "funny stuff" with her.

Where do you think I get it from?

The bottom line is that it's not about necrophilia. It never was. It's about whether a body got embalmed or not, and unless it's a matter of religious belief, it's a stupid issue over which to have "nightmares."

I am of the opinion that once I'm gone, if someone else can benefit from something being done to or taken from my remains, make it so. It's not like I'm gonna use those corneas again.


16 posted on 03/03/2005 12:19:04 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: feinswinesuksass

They were in body bags, would that be enough to mask the smell?

Any way about it, it's a bizarre story.


17 posted on 03/03/2005 12:20:52 PM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: Xenalyte

You wrote this: "She does not care what is done to her body."
Of course, since your mother sells hot dogs....she may not care.

Would you care if people had sex with you after you died. Be careful how you answer....you know some on FR will take you up on that.


18 posted on 03/03/2005 12:23:27 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: Xenalyte

"Oh, for the love of God. She's DEAD. She does not care what is done to her body. Why are her relatives freaking out?"

So after you die, you wouldn't mind if the funeral home hired to bury you, sold your body to a dog food company, or to the local archery club for target practice instead? According to you, you are dead, why would you care?


19 posted on 03/03/2005 12:27:49 PM PST by monday
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To: Xenalyte

"Oh, for the love of God. She's DEAD. She does not care what is done to her body. Why are her relatives freaking out?"

Could be a lot of reasons. Judaism forbids embalming as a desecration of the body. I guess I could understand how someone who was Jewish would have a pretty strong reaction to this.

Religious belief is a powerful force. People believe all sorts of things that might make no sense to someone not of their faith.


20 posted on 03/03/2005 12:28:05 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Ignatz

Let me see if I got this straight. Your mom dies a pretty horrible death from cancer. She makes it very clear she doesn't want to be embalmed but cremated. Sleazy transport company is hired to deliver the body to a crematorium. Company takes an 18 day detour to a mortuary school for a little embalming practice- and gets a few bucks on the side. Transport company owner pulls a Sargent Schultz and says, "I know nothing". I hope they bankrupt these scumbags.


21 posted on 03/03/2005 12:28:12 PM PST by jimboster
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To: Xenalyte

Didnt you read post #3?


22 posted on 03/03/2005 12:30:00 PM PST by Mr. K (this space for rent)
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To: feinswinesuksass
The tagline is from an FR thread.

I've already stated my position. If someone can benefit from doing something to or taking something from my remains, cool. (Necrophilia confers no benefit on anyone.)

So right now, I'd rather people didn't try that after I die . . . but truth be told, I will be DEAD and it'll be impossible to care.
23 posted on 03/03/2005 12:33:59 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: monday

I wouldn't mind because - get this - I WOULD BE DEAD and therefore incapable of minding.


24 posted on 03/03/2005 12:34:45 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: Xenalyte

New of a pilot and his friend hired to take a "dearly departed's" ashes out over the ocean and dump them. Once airborne in the 172 and over the Atlantic coastline, the guys realized they'd have to open a door to get the ash out. One opened the urn while the pilot crabbed the plane to relieve wind pressure on the door and pushed it open. The turbulent air blew the ashes all over the inside of the plane while the suction kept them from going out the door. They were thoroughly fogged with ash when they came back to the AP.


25 posted on 03/03/2005 12:35:47 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: MineralMan

If Mom and daughter are Jewish, I can see the reason for the upset. However, that's not mentioned in the story.


26 posted on 03/03/2005 12:36:09 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: Xenalyte

looks like someone has a bad case of the mondays


27 posted on 03/03/2005 12:36:24 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Xenalyte

"Despite a request by Post's husband that her remains be cremated in accordance with her religious beliefs"


28 posted on 03/03/2005 12:37:29 PM PST by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: Xenalyte

I saw that thread...it is hilarious.
My tagline is from Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy.

The necrophiliacs would benefit....but my guess is that your relatives would be horrified.


29 posted on 03/03/2005 12:38:45 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: ambrose

I think if her religion says she has to be cremated and it's such a huge deal as to keep her out of Heaven then she is having some much bigger problems right now than what happened to her body after she left it.


30 posted on 03/03/2005 12:40:17 PM PST by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: melbell

It is her family that is upset & they have every right to be.


31 posted on 03/03/2005 12:42:18 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: Xenalyte

"If Mom and daughter are Jewish, I can see the reason for the upset. However, that's not mentioned in the story."

No, and I'm not saying she's Jewish. I have no idea, nor do I know about every religion's rules about this. I do know that Moslems also don't allow cremation.

As for a religion requiring cremation, Buddhism and Sikhism require cremation. I could not find any information regarding their views on embalming in a quick search.

Notwithstanding, there could be sects of Christianity which forbid embalming, but require cremation. I don't know. The point is that the story said that this whole thing was religion-based.

Whatever the religion, denomination, or sect, if the woman and her mother had strongly-held religious beliefs that forbid embalming, that is enough to cause considerable distress.

The amount of the settlement is not known here, nor is the motivation, except for the statement about a religious belief.

That is enough.


32 posted on 03/03/2005 12:42:55 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: feinswinesuksass

"It is her family that is upset & they have every right to be."

I agree...but on the same note, her husband says she isn't in Heaven now, so he has bigger things to worry about too.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be upset that her wishes weren't carried out. I'm just saying they may have bigger things to worry about.


33 posted on 03/03/2005 12:46:20 PM PST by melbell (A Freudian slip is when you mean one thing, and say your mother)
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To: Xenalyte
"I wouldn't mind because - get this - I WOULD BE DEAD and therefore incapable of minding."

Hmmmm...? You are unusual. Strictly speaking that is a rational attitude to take, yet most people take offense when the body of their loved one is not shown proper respect.

Thats why you rarely see people sell the bodies of their dead parents to dog food companies, for instance. Instead they insist on spending thousands of dollars on caskets and headstones and limousines. What a waste huh?

Still if I pay someone to do something, I expect him to do it as agreed, not screw around and try to pick up a little extra money on the side.

I would be angry if I had hired a delivery company to move a bed and the company rented it to a porno company for 18 days before delivering it to it's final destination too. Some of us expect to get what we pay for. Is that too much to ask?
34 posted on 03/03/2005 12:49:55 PM PST by monday
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To: IGOTMINE

Then they have grounds for being upset. They don't have grounds for a lawsuit.

(My standard of proof is somewhat strict.)


35 posted on 03/03/2005 12:50:02 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: monday

I do think funerals are a waste of money, but then, so are most weddings. ;)

If a company does not perform as promised, I will seek reimbursement of what I paid it to perform. I will not sue it for everything it's worth.


36 posted on 03/03/2005 12:52:27 PM PST by Xenalyte (Your mother sells hot dogs.)
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To: azhenfud

"One opened the urn "

This is where he made his mistake. Why open the urn? Just toss the whole thing out the door.


37 posted on 03/03/2005 12:52:39 PM PST by monday
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To: melbell

Nah, he is focusing on punishing those who kept her from heaven. Vengence is mine.


38 posted on 03/03/2005 12:52:58 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: monday
"I would be angry if I had hired a delivery company to move a bed and the company rented it to a porno company for 18 days before delivering it to it's final destination too. Some of us expect to get what we pay for. Is that too much to ask?"

Eeewwww, you grossed me out & made me laugh at the same time. Thanks.

39 posted on 03/03/2005 12:54:43 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: ambrose
So picture this Mom is in heaven drinking some good wine with God (cause in heaven there is no beer).

All of a sudden the cherubs show up and say I'm sorry but the transport company screwed up and your body was embalmed, you'll have to leave.

Does this make any sense to anyone?

40 posted on 03/03/2005 12:58:23 PM PST by Dinsdale
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To: ambrose
Sarah Anne Sanchez broke down as she described suffering from nightmares where her mother Madeline Post seems angry and confused.

Symptom of overstimulation of the insurance node.

41 posted on 03/03/2005 12:59:38 PM PST by frithguild (Defining hypocrisy - Liberals fear liberty.)
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To: Hegewisch Dupa
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As they say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour p*** out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformation. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you.
You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?

42 posted on 03/03/2005 1:01:03 PM PST by 6323cd ("It is prohibited to make use of such emotional signs in a cellphone!")
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To: Xenalyte

"If a company does not perform as promised, I will seek reimbursement of what I paid it to perform. I will not sue it for everything it's worth."

and if the value of the item ruined, (in this case a dead mother) was worth more to you than the value of the company? You can't know how much value this woman places on her dead mother. There are not appraisers for that sort of thing. Just because her dead mother is valueless to you doesn't mean it is valueless to the woman.

A jury will decide. She may get a lot, she may get nothing. Personally, I think it's sort of ridiculous too, but then she isn't my mother. If it was, I suspect I might feel differently.


43 posted on 03/03/2005 1:08:29 PM PST by monday
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To: monday; Xenalyte; feinswinesuksass
So after you die, you wouldn't mind if the funeral home hired to bury you, sold your body to a dog food company, or to the local archery club for target practice instead?

They could strip my corpse naked, parade it down Main Street (scaring the chillrun), then stick a rocket up my ass and shoot me to the moon.

My body is just an inanimate mass of flesh. (Even more so after I die.)

44 posted on 03/03/2005 1:09:20 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ambrose
Embalmed
45 posted on 03/03/2005 1:09:59 PM PST by One_American
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To: ambrose
No offense, but the thought of somebody wrongfully embalming one of your relatives after they die isn't nearly as disturbing as the thought of somebody wrongfully embalming one of your relatives before they die.
46 posted on 03/03/2005 1:11:01 PM PST by RichInOC (...somebody had to say it...why not me?)
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To: 6323cd
hmmm... your post looks vaguely familiar?
47 posted on 03/03/2005 1:17:49 PM PST by monday
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To: dead
"They could strip my corpse naked, parade it down Main Street (scaring the chillrun), then stick a rocket up my ass and shoot me to the moon."

If you put that in your will, I bet you can get a ton of people to show up for your FUNeral.

48 posted on 03/03/2005 1:20:23 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: Dinsdale

No beer in heaven? Not according to Ben Franklin.


49 posted on 03/03/2005 1:22:51 PM PST by Feiny ( I own many leather-bound books and my apartment smells of rich mahogany.)
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To: dead
"They could strip my corpse naked, parade it down Main Street (scaring the chillrun), then stick a rocket up my ass and shoot me to the moon."

What you think doesn't really matter I guess. After all you are 'dead'.;o) The real question is, would it matter to your family? For most families, it would.
50 posted on 03/03/2005 1:22:55 PM PST by monday
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