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Saddam's son Uday was poised to topple dad: controversial US journalist (Peter Arnett)
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Posted on 03/03/2005 2:29:47 PM PST by nickcarraway

Wed Mar 2, 5:40 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - The eldest son of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) was plotting to overthrow his father just as US troops advanced on Baghdad in March 2003, journalist Peter Arnett claimed in Playboy Magazine.

Uday Hussein, known for his ruthlessness and flashy lifestyle, had won the support of the leadership of his father's Fedayeen militia to overthrow Saddam's 35-year rule, according to an advance copy of the April edition of Playboy obtained by AFP.

The controversial reporter, who was fired by the US NBC television network in 2003 after suggesting that the US war plan in Iraq (news - web sites) had failed, made the claim following an 18-month investigation in which he says he gained access to Uday Hussein's inner circle.

The article cited a letter from Saddam Fedayeen commander General Maki Humudat, dated March 26, 2003, in which he swore allegiance to a new Iraqi government under the control of Fedayeen chief Uday Hussein.

"According to your direction and command to form a new government under the leadership of your Excellency (Uday), we have informed all the senior officers of the Saddam Fedayeen of your desire to appoint them as your candidates for office in your government," the letter said.

Uday had planned to announce his seizure of the crumbling reins of power later the same day, but was thwarted when US jets bombed his Youth TV studios in Baghdad, according to Arnett.

The ambitious heir had even formed a shadow government on the outskirts of Iraq's capital, Baghdad that was disguised under the cover of his powerful Olympic committee and funded by murky oil deals, he said.

According to Arnett, the oldest son of the Iraqi dictator had long been chafing under his father's iron fisted rule and blamed his father for the punishing international sanctions on the country.

"Though it has not been reported until now, Uday Hussein was the biggest proponent of regime change inside Iraq," Arnett wrote.

"During the previous 10 years, he had slowly assembled the elements of power -- military, military and political management -- designed to overthrow his tyrannical father," said the reporter who was in Baghdad as US troops approached following the launch of the March 19, 2003 US-led attack.

But, according to the journalist, Uday's coup plan came too late as US-led forces were just days away from the Iraqi capital.

He and his younger brother, Qusay, were forced to flee Baghdad along with their father as the Baath party military machine collapsed ahead of the US seizure of the city in early April.

Uday and Qusay were killed in a blistering battle in the northern city of Mosul on July 22, 2003, while Saddam Hussein was captured alive in his home town of Tikrit in December of that year.

Arnett, who won a Pulitzer Prize for his Vietnam War reporting and covered the 1991 Persian Gulf War (news - web sites) for CNN from Baghdad, was fired from NBC at the end of March 2003 after granting a disputed interview to Iraqi state television.

In that interview just days before Baghdad fell, he said the US war plan was failing. "Clearly, the American war planners misjudged the determination of the Iraqi forces," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: hussein; iraq; qusay; saddamfamily; uday
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1 posted on 03/03/2005 2:29:48 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well then we shouldn't have gone in to Iraq if Saddam's son was going to over throw him anyway!/lib logic


2 posted on 03/03/2005 2:30:51 PM PST by RushCrush (I like America to some extent. -Michael Moore)
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To: nickcarraway

Like anyone should believe anything Arnett has to say anymore.....


3 posted on 03/03/2005 2:31:48 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway

Good grief, which is worse as an authority, Arnet or Playboy.


4 posted on 03/03/2005 2:33:40 PM PST by OldFriend (America's glory is not dominion, but liberty.)
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To: nickcarraway
What hole did Petah Arnett crawl out of?

Is he suggested we didn't need to dump Saddam, that we could have waited for that humanitarian, Uday Hussein, to come to power?

5 posted on 03/03/2005 2:33:48 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: nickcarraway

Uday the Rapist replacing Saddam the Brute. What a massive improvelence, dahlin'!


6 posted on 03/03/2005 2:34:11 PM PST by thoughtomator (Not available in stores - for a limited time only)
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To: anniegetyourgun
I would not believe Peter Arnett if he told me his name was Peter Arnett.
7 posted on 03/03/2005 2:34:11 PM PST by roylene
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To: nickcarraway
"According to your direction and command to form a new government under the leadership of your Excellency (Uday), we have informed all the senior officers of the Saddam Fedayeen of your desire to appoint them as your candidates for office in your government,"

Oh, come on. Who would put this in writing?

Unless the guy planned to show it to Saddam to get rid of Uday.

8 posted on 03/03/2005 2:34:59 PM PST by Texas dog
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To: OldFriend
Good grief, which is worse as an authority, Arnet or Playboy.

The one thing they have in common: over-exposed boobs.

9 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:01 PM PST by My2Cents (America is divided along issues of morality, between the haves and the have-nots.)
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To: nickcarraway

Did he mention the torturing...murders...rapes...and other criminal activities both brothers were engaged in. Who would think that a viable option for Iraq would be anyone from that demented family?


10 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:27 PM PST by Kentucky (Annoy a liberal- Work Hard- Succeed - Be Happy)
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To: nickcarraway

Isn't arnett the douche who kept Saddam's crimes under wraps so that CNN could stay in Baghdad?

If so, why does anyone care what a propagandist liar like this has to say?

Finally, even if this were true, can the libs honestly say that Saddam's son would be an "improvement"? LOL


11 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:30 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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The ambitious heir had even formed a shadow government on the outskirts of Iraq's capital, Baghdad that was disguised under the cover of his powerful Olympic committee

So, his treatment of the players on the national soccer team was just practice.

12 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:41 PM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: nickcarraway
Saddam would have fed Uday feet first through the plastic shredder on slow speed.

Uday was a punk compared to his daddy.

SO9

13 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:47 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: roylene

He is a liar's liar.....lies like a rug on the floor.


14 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:56 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: nickcarraway

Peter Arnett could gag a maggot!


15 posted on 03/03/2005 2:35:57 PM PST by Rummyfan
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To: nickcarraway

First, Arnett is full of crap!

Second. If this were true, then going into Iraq BEFORE Uday had overthrown his old man was the best thing we could have done, considering that his 'human shredding' would probably have increased once he came into power.

And who knows how many more Kurds would have been gassed to death.


16 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:06 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: nickcarraway

We should have let The Rapist topple The Thug. Yeah that's the ticket. Next theory please.


17 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:22 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: nickcarraway

I honestly don't see the point either. One could have argued that Uday was a greater threat than Saddam.


18 posted on 03/03/2005 2:36:50 PM PST by Perdogg (Rumsfeld for President - 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Playboy has articles?


19 posted on 03/03/2005 2:38:57 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: gov_bean_ counter

"Playboy has articles?"

LMAO!!!!! ;)


20 posted on 03/03/2005 2:39:41 PM PST by Stellar Dendrite
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To: nickcarraway

This is so patently ridiculous what could possibly be the point of it.


21 posted on 03/03/2005 2:41:34 PM PST by Bahbah
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Playboy has articles? Sure, but none of them are real.
22 posted on 03/03/2005 2:42:18 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: RushCrush

More crap from Arnett. This is just made up so that those that hate America, opposed the war, and the resulting purple fingers from the election, can now claim they were still right. This is about as credible as his Tailwind story.


23 posted on 03/03/2005 2:42:24 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: Rummyfan

Where is Dan RATher for breaking story? Maybe Whorealdo can tell us. Yawn!


24 posted on 03/03/2005 2:43:58 PM PST by Leo Carpathian (FReeeePeee!)
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To: nickcarraway

Is Uday the really, extremely ugly corpse, or just the average ugly corpse? Never could tell those boys apart, but the Devil likely has them sorted out by now.


25 posted on 03/03/2005 2:44:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: nickcarraway

So? Arnett is a commie and Playboy can't sell many mags..made for each other


26 posted on 03/03/2005 2:44:34 PM PST by CT CONSERVATIVE (Fight Crime: Shoot Back)
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To: nickcarraway

So, according to Peter Arnett, Uday had to destroy the regime in order to save it.


27 posted on 03/03/2005 2:45:48 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: nickcarraway
Sure he was in favor of regime change; out with Saddam and in with Uday! Tada! Regime change.

This is supposed to be news?

28 posted on 03/03/2005 2:46:08 PM PST by TChris (Most people's capability for inference is severely overestimated)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Playboy has articles

They sure do. It's just that most people have gone blind reading them.
29 posted on 03/03/2005 2:47:48 PM PST by reagan_fanatic ("Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence" - R. Kirk)
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To: nickcarraway
Snooze ya' loose

30 posted on 03/03/2005 2:47:48 PM PST by evets (God bless President Bush and VP Cheney)
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To: RushCrush

And no doubt he had plans to have immediate, open, democratic elections. /sarcasm


31 posted on 03/03/2005 2:49:08 PM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: RushCrush

Well that must suck! We did it for him and then killed him and his brother. /sarcasm


32 posted on 03/03/2005 2:50:42 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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To: nickcarraway

Arnet Artoo Arnet Artoo Arnet, Arnot. Arsnot,!!! How convenient everybody's dead. What a (to quote O'donnel) "A Liar "


33 posted on 03/03/2005 2:50:55 PM PST by Deetes
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To: RushCrush

To bad we blew the littl F#$% to smithereeens.


34 posted on 03/03/2005 2:51:03 PM PST by ChadsDad (If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace.)
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To: nickcarraway
It's plausible that Uday Hussein would see that his dad's days were numbered, and that if he wanted to keep the gravy train going, he had to be involved in the new regime. In fact, Uday would be dumb if he weren't planning for that contingency.

Arnett's half right - with all the pressure we were bringing to bear against Iraq, a coup was not unlikely to be in the works. Uday had to be sick of being shunted to run the Iraqi Olympic Committee, and porblably saw Iraq like a 16-year-old sees his dad's car.

But, as many people have already observed here, replacing Saddam would not be enough. Some of what we have heard about Uday makes Saddam sound like Santa Claus. An Uday Hussein government would neither be an improvement of the Iraqi people's plight nor would it be acceptable for us from a national security standpoint to let it get to that point.

35 posted on 03/03/2005 2:52:46 PM PST by jude24 ("To go against conscience is neither right nor safe." - Martin Luther)
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To: anniegetyourgun
He is a liar's liar.....lies like a rug on the floor.

He's also a creepy lying liar!

36 posted on 03/03/2005 2:53:34 PM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: nickcarraway

Ha ha ha. What a pathetic joke.

As if he had any credibility whatsoever, the seditious naturalized U.S. citizen Peter Arnett fictionalizes the Iraqi freedom fighter Uday Hussein, who when he wasn't raping women or shredding his opponents or snorting coke, was pondering the deeper meaning of Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry.

Uday, we hardly knew ye.


37 posted on 03/03/2005 2:53:52 PM PST by angkor
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Playboy's articles are as bad as 'The Nation's' anymore. Not even worth the 12 bucks a year it's down to.


39 posted on 03/03/2005 2:54:54 PM PST by FlyingHellfish (Audentes Fortuna Juvat)
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To: nickcarraway

>Uday and Qusay were killed in a blistering battle in the northern city of Mosul on July 22, 2003

Screw 'em if they can't take a joke!


40 posted on 03/03/2005 2:56:18 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: nickcarraway
The controversial reporter, who was fired by the US NBC television network in 2003 after suggesting that the US war plan in Iraq (news - web sites) had failed, made the claim following an 18-month investigation in which he says he gained access to Uday Hussein's inner circle.

Sounds like he was meeting with the enemy.

41 posted on 03/03/2005 2:57:45 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Withhold taxes and starve a Liberal!)
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42 posted on 03/03/2005 3:00:01 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: nickcarraway

Just damn.


43 posted on 03/03/2005 3:01:00 PM PST by Jackknife (No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its preservation.-MacArthur)
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To: nickcarraway

Uday was even more of a Psycopath than his father was.


44 posted on 03/03/2005 3:01:31 PM PST by Husker24
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To: nickcarraway

And we care about this NON story because?


45 posted on 03/03/2005 3:01:40 PM PST by Agent Smith (Fallujah delenda est. (I wish))
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To: Diogenesis

What is that, Dragon?


46 posted on 03/03/2005 3:01:58 PM PST by MindBender26 (Having your own XM177 E2 means never having to say you are sorry......)
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To: nickcarraway
Sure, and Uday was going to install a democratic republic and let freedom ring.

Arnett is a thoroughly discredited idiot who even manages to make Michael Moore look believable (only in terms of comparison, of course).
47 posted on 03/03/2005 3:06:02 PM PST by awelliott
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To: Diogenesis

Candy Gram.


48 posted on 03/03/2005 3:06:26 PM PST by Moonman62 (Republican - The political party for the living.)
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To: nickcarraway

"According to Arnett, the oldest son of the Iraqi dictator had long been chafing under his father's iron fisted rule and blamed his father for the punishing international sanctions on the country.

"Though it has not been reported until now, Uday Hussein was the biggest proponent of regime change inside Iraq," Arnett wrote."

PLEASE tell me Arnett isn't suggesting that the psychotic Uday Hussein was somehow some closet classical liberal brimming with zeal for democracy and just chomping at the bit to free Iraq and usher in a golden era of democratic governance. And PLEASE don't tell me Arnett is using this to say that the US shouldn't have acted, that Uday was going to do its job for them and overthrow his father bringing Iraq into the family of nations.

The mentally ill Uday Hussein was worse than his father! He was an absolute blood thirsty psychopath who picked women off the street to rape, even taking them in the middle of wedding ceremonies and forcing their husbands to watch, then killing both of them. Uday was known for his love for capricious murders and torture. PLEASE Peter, I hope you're not suggesting that Uday Hussein in power in Bagdhad would have been far preferable to overthrowing the Hussein mafia's hold on Iraq and bringing democracy to the country via US force. If so, you're as deranged as Uday.


49 posted on 03/03/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by MikeA
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To: nickcarraway

I don't believe Arnett any more than I believe Dan Rather.


50 posted on 03/03/2005 3:24:59 PM PST by BushisTheMan
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