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Saudis Join Call for Syrian Force to Quit Lebanon
NY Times ^ | 3/3/2005 | HASSAN M. FATTAH

Posted on 03/03/2005 6:49:09 PM PST by Southack

Saudis Join Call for Syrian Force to Quit Lebanon

By HASSAN M. FATTAH

Published: March 4, 2005

BEIRUT, Lebanon, March 3 - Saudi Arabia told Syria on Thursday to withdraw its troops from Lebanon, adding substantially to Syria's international isolation just a day after Russia joined Western nations in making a similar call.

Bashar al-Assad, the Syrian president, went Thursday to Riyadh, the Saudi capital, hoping to secure Saudi support before a coming Arab summit meeting. But Saudi officials told Reuters and The Associated Press that Crown Prince Abdullah Bin Abdel-Aziz had delivered an unusually blunt rebuff. Egypt, the other key Arab player, has also called for the withdrawal of Syria from Lebanon.

Syrian Arab News Agency/Pool

President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, left, was greeted Thursday in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, by Crown Prince Abdullah Bin Abdel-Aziz, whose aides said President Assad was warned about keeping his troops in Lebanon.

"The Arabs have taken a stand and the international community have taken a stand," said Joseph Samaha, editor in chief of As Safir, a Lebanese daily. "This means there is no ally left for Syria."

President Assad promised the Saudi leader he would study the idea of a partial withdrawal before the end of the month, the Saudi officials were quoted as saying.

Prior to last month's assassination of Rafik Hariri, the former Lebanese prime minister, the Saudis served as behind-the-scenes players in the cooling relations between the United States and Syria. They backed efforts by Mr. Hariri to mend relations between the two countries, while helping to maintain Arab support for Syria with the Arab league, said Hazem el-Amine, a columnist with a pan-Arab daily, Al Hayat.

"As long as the Saudis had organized to protect Syria, Syria could survive this," Mr. Amine said. "That's what makes this so important."

As key figures in the Arab League, Saudi Arabia and Egypt largely define the Arab line.

Mr. Assad has been seeking a face-saving solution by withdrawing most Syrian soldiers while maintaining a low-level presence as a bargaining chip. But foreign ministers at an Arab League meeting in Cairo on Thursday urged Syria to follow through on a 1989 accord that ended the Lebanese civil war and called for a Syrian redeployment to eastern Lebanon, near the border, and eventually to a full pullout.

"Assad needs the Arabs to support him in keeping troops behind," said Joshua Landis, a professor of history at the University of Oklahoma and editor of the Web site Syria Comment. "The Syrians think they have maneuvering room, and they're bargaining."

Saudi Arabia's rebuke follows a similar stand by Russia on Wednesday. "Syria should withdraw from Lebanon," Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told the BBC late Wednesday. "But we all have to make sure that this withdrawal does not violate the very fragile balance which we still have in Lebanon, which is a very difficult country ethnically."

On Thursday, President Bush reiterated calls on Syria to leave Lebanon. "The United States of America strongly supports democracy around the world, including Lebanon," he said on a visit to the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va. "And it cannot flourish so long as Syrian troops are there. It's time for Syria to get out."

Analysts say the confluence of global powers turning their backs on Syria will make the imposition of sanctions more likely. The United States imposed sanctions on Syria in 2004, but Europe is Syria's largest trading partner, and sanctions by the European Union would strike at the core of Syria's economy.

European powers have resisted efforts to impose sanctions, fearing a repeat of Iraq, where, in their view, 14 years of sanctions destroyed the social fabric of the country and only served to empower Saddam Hussein. With the cat-and-mouse game growing more heated with Syria, however, Europeans may be forced to join a sanctions regime with the United States, Mr. Landis said.

Russia's announcement was in effect a message to Syria that Moscow would not exercise its veto against sanctions in the United Nations Security Council, he added.

Syria announced last week that it would begin redeploying troops from Lebanese highlands into Bakaa, the central valley. In separate interviews with the Italian newspaper La Repubblica and Time magazine, Mr. Assad pledged that he would be pulling troops out soon.

By Thursday, there had been no notable movement by Syrian troops. Press reports linked to the opposition reported that Syria was in fact reinforcing its positions in the mountains, but an official at the Syrian Foreign Ministry said the soldiers were "digging trenches in preparation for a withdrawal."

The mounting pressure from abroad continued even as Lebanese opposition figures struggled to maintain their momentum after Monday's resignation of Prime Minister Omar Karami.

President Émile Lahoud, who is linked with Syria, has not yet opened parliamentary consultations to assign a caretaker government. Opposition figures, who blame Syria for Mr. Hariri's assassination, dropped calls for Mr. Lahoud's resignation Wednesday and called instead for the resignation of Lebanon's public prosecutor and six top security officials.

Yet as the negotiations continue, and a waning crowd of primarily young Maronite Christian and Sunni Muslim protestors continue to camp out in Martyrs' Square and parade throughout the city waving Lebanese flags in protest, the absence of Shiite Muslim parties from the opposition has grown increasingly notable. Opposition members say Shiites have taken part, but acknowledge that the absence of Hezbollah and the other main Shiite party, Amal, has limited their reach.

There has not been a census in Lebanon in decades and no one knows the precise breakdown of population. But it is widely believed that Shiites, who are among the poorest members of society, make up about 40 percent of the country.

The opposition has struggled to woo Hezbollah, a Shiite party labeled a terrorist band by Washington, with little success. Hezbollah is perhaps the best organized party in Lebanon and derives much prestige from having fought Israeli occupation there during the 1980's and 90's.

On Wednesday, opposition leaders met with Hezbollah officials to coax the group to join their effort, but to little avail. While not openly advocating continued Syrian dominance of Lebanon, Hezbollah, which relies on Syria and Iran for its support, says it is trying to maintain a dialogue between the Syrian-backed government and the opposition.

During deliberations in Parliament on Monday on a no-confidence measure, Hezbollah members maintained a neutral tone, pragmatically studying where their interests lie.

"We have not announced how we will vote, but we are discussing things and waiting to see what comes out," said Hussein Haj Hassan, who is part of Hezbollah's bloc of 13 M.P.'s among the 128 representatives. "Everything is possible."

Hezbollah's reticence underscores its deep ties with Syria. Despite what has been called a cold friendship between Syria and Hezbollah, each sees itself in the same boat: if Syria pulls out, analysts say, Hezbollah will be vulnerable.




TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; bushdoctrineunfolds; lebanon; saudiarabia; syria; withdrawal
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1 posted on 03/03/2005 6:49:09 PM PST by Southack
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To: Southack

Nice to see the lard butt family get it's act together as far as Lebanon goes.

Now if they'd only do the same thing in their country.


2 posted on 03/03/2005 6:51:07 PM PST by MoJo2001 (Operation Easter/Passover For Our Troops begins Feb.14th-Mar.4th---www.proudpatriots.org)
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To: Southack

You KNOW the Saudis are quaking in their robes at the spread of freedom in the Mideast.


3 posted on 03/03/2005 7:01:26 PM PST by rintense
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To: Southack

Timber.


4 posted on 03/03/2005 7:02:20 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Southack
On Thursday, President Bush reiterated calls on Syria to leave Lebanon. "The United States of America strongly supports democracy around the world, including Lebanon," he said on a visit to the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency in Langley, Va. "And it cannot flourish so long as Syrian troops are there. It's time for Syria to get out."

The Cowboy has spoken. Get out of Lebanon Assad. Immediately.

Nov. 2nd, 2004- Vote for G.W.- Most important vote I've ever cast.

5 posted on 03/03/2005 7:06:58 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: Southack
What President Bush is engineering in the Middle East is nothing short of revolutionary. To realize how quickly it appears to be happening is truly astounding. President Bush seems to know that he is working from a position of supreme strength and is making the most of the advantage in the time he has.

These are heady and most fortunate times. Let's hope they continue and the drive to liberty prevails.

6 posted on 03/03/2005 7:07:06 PM PST by mitchbert (Paul Martin is a Spineless Ditherer. That's a Fact. And Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: Southack

Have any Democrats called for Syria to withdraw from Lebanon?
Perhaps they are waiting for their talking points to arrive from Hezbollah and Hamas.


7 posted on 03/03/2005 7:12:37 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: mitchbert
Democracy Dominoes on Display
8 posted on 03/03/2005 7:18:11 PM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: Wild Irish Rogue

The democRATS are a ball and chain at President Bush's feet. They are helping to delay the spread of Democracy in the Middle East. They are acting very childish. Parley


9 posted on 03/03/2005 7:22:49 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Southack
xxxlinton's probably thinking to himself, "Gee, where can I get one of them Bush Doctrines?"
10 posted on 03/03/2005 7:38:49 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Look! Jimmy Carter! History's greatest monster!)
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To: Southack

an official at the Syrian Foreign Ministry said the soldiers were "digging trenches in preparation for a withdrawal."

Does anyone believe that Syria needs to dig trenches in order to withdraw? It seems like Syria wants to be kicked out by force. The question is: who is going to do it?


11 posted on 03/03/2005 9:03:56 PM PST by winner3000
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To: winner3000

I agree with u


12 posted on 03/03/2005 9:22:18 PM PST by meanie monster
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To: rintense
You KNOW the Saudis are quaking in their robes at the spread of freedom in the Mideast.

If Osama BL is still alive (which I don't believe is true), he will be taken out by a Jihadist before a US Marine gets him. Law of Unintended Consequences.

13 posted on 03/03/2005 9:28:21 PM PST by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Southack; All
Here's the whole pic. Check the entourage.

Syrian Arab News Agency/Pool
President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, left, was greeted Thursday in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, by Crown Prince Abdullah Bin Abdel-Aziz, whose aides said President Assad was warned about keeping his troops in Lebanon.

14 posted on 03/03/2005 9:48:29 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: mitchbert

Bump!


15 posted on 03/03/2005 10:07:09 PM PST by endthematrix (Declare 2005 as the year the battle for freedom from tax slavery!)
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To: neverdem; Thinkin' Gal

Getting the red carpet treatment. Can you pick out the pencil necked geek in this photo? Can you pick out the bandits in bed sheets?

16 posted on 03/03/2005 10:10:57 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: neverdem; Thinkin' Gal

The Saudi entourage looks like a bunch of women trying to keep their dresses from blowing in the wind and showing their undies. Trying to keep their long dresses from getting dirtied up on the ground.

17 posted on 03/03/2005 10:13:27 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: neverdem

Chinless wonder meets big fat arab wearing table-cloth on head.
Sorry, I jusy couldn't help myself.


18 posted on 03/03/2005 10:14:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Raycpa

...and the 'cascade' keeps rollin' along...dumdeedumdum..


19 posted on 03/03/2005 10:24:52 PM PST by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: Southack

related:

Syria's Assad Discusses Lebanon Crisis with Saudis
(Russia, Germany join calls for withdrawal)
Reuters via Yahoo News | 3/3/05
Posted on 03/03/2005 10:58:46 AM PST by Wolfstar
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1355226/posts

Saudis Tell Syria To Leave Lebanon
Washington Post | 3/3/2005 | Scott Wilson
Posted on 03/03/2005 10:09:53 PM PST by Pro-Bush
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1355674/posts


20 posted on 03/03/2005 10:25:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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To: jan in Colorado; Dark Skies; AmericanArchConservative; Former Dodger; broadsword; swordfish71; ...

I wouldn't want you to miss this; the chinless wonder gets his marching orders from the Saudi's no less.


21 posted on 03/03/2005 10:32:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for the ping Fred!

This is one story I am enjoying!
22 posted on 03/03/2005 10:39:46 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie" Romans 1:25a)
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To: dennisw

It's a stampede. Looks like Micky D's had better heat up all available french fry vats.


23 posted on 03/03/2005 10:41:00 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: jan in Colorado

Ain't it sad when you run out of friends? LOL!


24 posted on 03/03/2005 10:43:50 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Yes, my friend, it sure is! LOL! ;0)
25 posted on 03/03/2005 10:47:43 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie" Romans 1:25a)
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To: jan in Colorado
MY HEROES HAVE ALWAYS BEEN COWBOYS.
26 posted on 03/03/2005 10:53:38 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Mickey D's French fries are halal.

 
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Sheikh Abdulrahman Alireza Licensee, McDonald's Western Province
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HH Prince Misha'al Bin Khalid Bin Fahad Al Faisal Al Saud Licensee McDonald's Central & Eastern Provinces
 
 
 
Saudi Owned, Operated and Proud to Serve You!
All McDonald's restaurants in Saudi Arabia are owned and operated by leading members of the Saudi business community: in Central and Eastern Province by HH Prince Misha'al Bin Khalid Bin Fahad Al Faisal Al Saud of the Riyadh International Catering Co-operation, and in Western Province by Sheikh Abdulrahman Alireza of Reza Food Services.

Their local input into the management of this global brand has helped ensure McDonald's popularity and success in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and there are currently no fewer than 71 branches strategically located in all of Saudi's major cities, including two in the holy city of Mecca - a place sacred to Muslims throughout the world.

alt

27 posted on 03/03/2005 11:02:41 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Fred Nerks
MINE TOO!


28 posted on 03/03/2005 11:07:47 PM PST by jan in Colorado ("For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie" Romans 1:25a)
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To: dennisw

Don't be fooled by the hordes pictured at the grand mosque. The real hajj is to the golden arches.


29 posted on 03/03/2005 11:21:48 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal

There are two McDonald's in Mecca where hypnotized Hajj participants can chow down on fries, far from the maddening crowd, and avoid the crush at the Kabba.


30 posted on 03/03/2005 11:32:41 PM PST by dennisw (Seeing as how this is a .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world .........)
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To: Southack; Fred Nerks; Cap Huff; Dog; SunkenCiv; Grampa Dave; Coop; Allegra; TexKat; onyx

Man, this adds another twist to the Head Lock on Syria!!!


31 posted on 03/03/2005 11:42:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The whole Middle East seems to be going nuts - in a good way!

It's like Bizarro-World.

32 posted on 03/03/2005 11:44:02 PM PST by Allegra ("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's beautiful, Ernest!

33 posted on 03/03/2005 11:45:08 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: tubebender; Brad's Gramma; backhoe

Hooray!!


34 posted on 03/03/2005 11:46:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: jriemer; NormsRevenge; kellynla

fyi


35 posted on 03/03/2005 11:49:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Three rousing cheers for the COMMANDER IN CHIEF!
36 posted on 03/03/2005 11:50:53 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Understand Evil: Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD. Link on my Page. free pdf.)
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To: Southack; doug from upland
Background on Syria's acts compiled by Doug from Upland:

SYRIA AND TERRORISM (background from 2003)

37 posted on 03/04/2005 12:04:56 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Allegra
I put together something here:

Contemplating the democratic revolution

38 posted on 03/04/2005 12:10:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Alex Marko; cake_crumb; okie01

fyi


39 posted on 03/04/2005 12:14:35 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Excellent!

I never thought I'd see these things happening so soon.

This is going to work.

40 posted on 03/04/2005 12:15:36 AM PST by Allegra ("They Just Love to Walk in the Middle of the Road!")
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To: Southack

"European powers have resisted efforts to impose sanctions, fearing a repeat of Iraq, where, in their view, 14 years of sanctions destroyed the social fabric of the country and only served to empower Saddam Hussein. With the cat-and-mouse game growing more heated with Syria, however, Europeans may be forced to join a sanctions regime with the United States, Mr. Landis said."

This makes no sense at all.

I don't believe the "European powers" are dense enough to think that GWB is going to dither around for his part of the next 14 years. Ain't going to happen that way.

Professor Landis is obviously knowledgeable on Lebanon and Syria (here's his blog: http://faculty-staff.ou.edu/L/Joshua.M.Landis-1/syriablog/index.html ) , but if he thinks that the "European powers" think this way then he needs to do some more study . . .


Of course, I could be wrong. Maybe the "European powers" are that dumb . . .


41 posted on 03/04/2005 12:16:08 AM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I can't figure out how to post this. But holy crapola! The family from 24 lives in Greenfield.

http://www.indystar.com/articles/6/226516-9516-092.html


42 posted on 03/04/2005 12:16:41 AM PST by Samwise (On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.)
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To: mitchbert

I agree, but, it's really gonna suck when Hillary is in charge.


43 posted on 03/04/2005 12:20:11 AM PST by Concentrate
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To: Samwise
Gannett stuff can't be posted even in excerpt form apparently.

The family from 24 lives in Greenfield.

Don't follow that?

44 posted on 03/04/2005 12:33:30 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

24 is a television show. A nice Arab family kidnaps the secretary of defense and melts down nuclear power plants.


45 posted on 03/04/2005 12:36:10 AM PST by Samwise (On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
According to Department of Motor Vehicles records, Shaaban was authorized to transport hazardous materials.

This is scary.

46 posted on 03/04/2005 12:37:55 AM PST by Samwise (On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog.)
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To: Samwise
Now I remember, I watched a bit of that the other night after some encouragement from some Freepers, then my viewing got interrupted.
47 posted on 03/04/2005 12:42:09 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (This tagline no longer operative....floated away in the flood of 2005 ,)
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To: mitchbert
President Bush seems to know that he is working from a position of supreme strength and is making the most of the advantage in the time he has.

Yes, and what few people know, and even fewer really understand, is that he is literally racing aginst the clock, to get what needs to be accomplished "fait accompli" in time. It appears, though that the hand of G-d is evident as well, working on his behalf (or is it vice-versa?)

the infowarrior

48 posted on 03/04/2005 1:24:48 AM PST by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: dennisw
I hate McDonalds but I just gotta say:

Mmmmm...McRib.
49 posted on 03/04/2005 7:42:03 AM PST by BJClinton (What's the difference between the Super Bowl and the Grammy's? The Eagles have won a Grammy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The timetable on the joint attack on Israel may have been moved up. So this could be another obfuscation move. :')


50 posted on 03/04/2005 9:35:42 AM PST by SunkenCiv (last updated my FreeRepublic profile on Sunday, February 20, 2005.)
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