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Maine: Gun tax proposed in court safety plan
bangordailynews.com ^ | 3-4-05

Posted on 03/04/2005 4:53:19 AM PST by SheLion

BANGOR - A gun and ammunition tax that would create a fund to increase security at the state's courthouses has been proposed by several members of the Legislature's Judiciary Committee. The 7 percent tax would be in addition to the 5 percent state sales tax that consumers already pay when they buy guns and ammunition from licensed dealers in the state.

George Smith, executive director of the Sportsman's Alliance of Maine, said on Monday that while the organization supports improved security at courthouses, it would oppose the bill.

"Making law abiding citizens who are gun owners pay the entire cost of something that serves all the people is the wrong approach," he said. "I can't see any justification in this particular funding source. Why not knives and other items?"

The bill, LD 1012, which was printed late last week, has been referred to the Taxation Committee. A date for a public hearing has not been set.

The bill's sponsor, Rep. Deborah L. Pelletier-Simpson, D-Auburn, said on Monday that she is very concerned about court safety and believes the bill will help focus attention on the need for full-time screening in the state's busiest courthouses.

"We need to do something before we have a person shot in our courts," she said. "We are not protecting our judges or our citizens who go there."

Pelletier-Simpson said that she chose to tax firearms rather than other potential weapons such as knives, because as a victim of domestic violence she believes guns are deadlier.

"I am more concerned about court security than creating a new tax," she said on Monday. "If people want to come up with another way to pay for it, I'm open to other ideas, but we have to make our courts safe."

The bill, if passed, would create the Courthouse Security Fund that would be used to pay security officers to operate screening equipment similar to that used at airports and in federal buildings.

Exactly how much money a gun and ammunition tax would raise has not been determined, but earlier this year, Ted Glessner, state court administrator, said that it would cost $3 million to use the equipment properly year round.

Glessner also has said that about 85 more court security officers are needed to operate the X-ray machines and metal detectors.

The judiciary would not take a stand on the bill, he said on Monday.

For almost a year, the 28 metal detectors and 10 X-ray machines have sat idle in courthouses around the state because there has been no money to pay security officers to operate them. The equipment was purchased in 2003 with $540,000 in bond issue money.

Legislators last year approved $100,000 for random screenings in locations around the state that now are under way.

In her State of the Judiciary Address to the Legislature last month, Leigh I. Saufley, chief justice of the Maine Supreme Judicial Court, however, again expressed concern about "the inability of the judicial branch to make our courthouses safe."

Entry screening is conducted an average of 10 days each year for each of the state's 41 courthouses, she said.

The chief justice also told the Legislature that during that limited time screeners had confiscated more than 1,400 knives or related weapons and five firearms.

"Imagine what has come through those doors during the more than 200 days when entry screening was not in place," she said last month.

 


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Singling out another group that chooses to purchase  another legal commodity.  Guns. 

They must have gone through the gun registrations and with their calculators, figured out how much more in tax money they could get by taxing hunters and gun owners.

Maine is well known for hunting.  Now this group is going to be on the 'hit list' next to carry the state budget.  I don't care what Augusta is saying these taxes will be used for.  It's easy to say what it will be used for, but once the tax is in place, the lawmakers will come up with other ways to spend this money and you can count on it.

I hope now that this will help wake up the people in Maine as to why smokers are so irate.  Maine smokers also suffer taxation without representation and someone who is the head of the rifle association in Maine better put a stop to this.

On the other hand, maybe you hunters can go ahead and pay the tax so they will leave the smokers alone!

 

1 posted on 03/04/2005 4:53:20 AM PST by SheLion
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To: AdamInMaine; d3maine; Conservative; spartan68; Madame Dufarge; busybody; Severa; SheLion; ...

Ping for the Tax Comments. Can liquor in Maine be far behind???? Get ready!


2 posted on 03/04/2005 4:54:28 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion
God I thank thee for giving my ancestors the wisdom to make a left turn when they got off the boat.

Muleteam1

3 posted on 03/04/2005 5:01:01 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: Muleteam1

We already pay an 10% federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition that is supposed to go for wildlife areas and shooting ranges across the country.


4 posted on 03/04/2005 5:03:34 AM PST by IGOTMINE (Front Sight. Press. Follow Through. It's a way of life.)
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To: IGOTMINE
We already pay an 10% federal excise tax on firearms and ammunition that is supposed to go for wildlife areas and shooting ranges across the country.

Just a little tid bit they 'forgot to add,' right? Well, get ready to bend over!

5 posted on 03/04/2005 5:08:31 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion
The bill's sponsor, Rep. Deborah L. Pelletier-Simpson, D-Auburn

Now , HOW did I know that letter would be at the end of the sponsors name?

6 posted on 03/04/2005 5:10:03 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: SheLion
My heart weighs so heavy trying to make it in Maine. I grew up here, made my life here, and chose to raise my children here. It has become a playground for the Massholes, the liberal scumbags, red diaper doper babies, and all their ilk. If anyone in this country wants to see what results when liberalism is left unchallenged, try opening a business in Maine.

I wish I had the President's optimism in that our best years are before us but I don't. We are losing jobs by the hundreds each month because of failed financial policies and the over taxation and red tape of business.

I've had many friends move away to the southern states to take work and leave Maine. I'm so saddened and at times it depresses the hell out of me. I'm a middle class Christian caught in a social experiment confined to the borders of this once proud state. Welfare, immigration, gay advocacy, environmentalist, anti-guns, war, Bush no-shaving lesbian NAGs, and it goes on and on.

Sorry about the rant. I sometimes think I should make a Public Service Announcement like the one in the 70's with the Indian standing on the highway, looking at the trash, turning to the camera with a tear in his eye. Just replace him with a white, straight, flannel shirted, male with a blaze orange hat and hunting rifle in hand and stand him on I-95 at the Kittery toll both as a Subaru goes by with a "rainbow" sticker in the rear window.

7 posted on 03/04/2005 5:17:30 AM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: SheLion
"Imagine what has come through those doors during the more than 200 days when entry screening was not in place," she said last month.

Wow! Imagine what has come through those doors and nothing happened!

I think even the concept of stupidity is lost on the Democrats.

8 posted on 03/04/2005 5:17:59 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Got Gas?)
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To: SheLion

The best thing about Maine is that we always have the option to make it part of Canada.


9 posted on 03/04/2005 5:26:09 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: SheLion

They should tax something more relevant such as convict income.

Or increase court costs.

Increase annual attorney license fees

Fine the union for each incidence a weapon gets through and actually causes harm.


10 posted on 03/04/2005 5:26:25 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (Republican - The thinking people's party)
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To: All
When they are too gutless to cut spending, stick it to the gun owner's and tell them the safety taxes are for their own good. Heh!
11 posted on 03/04/2005 5:27:53 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

"The 7 percent tax would be in addition to the 5 percent state sales......."

Is the 7% compounded on the 5% or additional to it. In other words, is the total tax 12% or 12.35%? I thought double taxation was illegal. Oh, yeah, I forgot about tobacco taxation policies that are applauded by so many freedom loving freepers.


12 posted on 03/04/2005 5:32:36 AM PST by CSM (Currently accepting applications for the job of stay at home mom.)
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To: SheLion

Awwww, noooo.... They will probably tax even more our ammo even if it uses "smokeless powder" We will have to get our black powder through the internet, maybe Yesshoot.cs or something.


13 posted on 03/04/2005 5:33:23 AM PST by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: SheLion
1.) Why do they need anyone to run the metal detectors? Shouldn't they just respond with a loud screeching alarm?

2.) I hadn't realized Maine had such an epidemic of violence at its court houses. They don't? Never mind...

14 posted on 03/04/2005 5:34:21 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: SheLion

Awwww, noooo.... They will probably tax even more our ammo even if it uses "smokeless powder" We will have to get our black powder through the internet, maybe Yesshoot.cs or something.


15 posted on 03/04/2005 5:34:45 AM PST by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: 8mmMauser

oops! trigger happy today


16 posted on 03/04/2005 5:35:40 AM PST by 8mmMauser (www.ChristtheKingMaine.com)
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To: Shortwave
My heart weighs so heavy trying to make it in Maine. I grew up here, made my life here, and chose to raise my children here. It has become a playground for the Massholes, the liberal scumbags, red diaper doper babies, and all their ilk. If anyone in this country wants to see what results when liberalism is left unchallenged, try opening a business in Maine.

We moved to Aroostook in August of 1983 for Loring Air Force Base.  We all know what a big fight Snowe and Collins did under the Klintoon Administration!  They fought so hard to save it, it closed.  Some hard fight THEY put up, right?  Wrong!

I wish I had the President's optimism in that our best years are before us but I don't. We are losing jobs by the hundreds each month because of failed financial policies and the over taxation and red tape of business.

And don't forget the thousands of Somali's Baldacci and Rep Tom Allen brought into Lewiston in 2002.  They alone are sucking our welfare system dry.  Maybe all the gays Balacci is trying to attract to our state will bring in a bunch of revenue like he is saying? heh!

I've had many friends move away to the southern states to take work and leave Maine. I'm so saddened and at times it depresses the hell out of me. I'm a middle class Christian caught in a social experiment confined to the borders of this once proud state. Welfare, immigration, gay advocacy, environmentalist, anti-guns, war, Bush no-shaving lesbian NAGs, and it goes on and on.

I truly feel your pain as I am sure any Mainer reading this does as well.

Sorry about the rant. I sometimes think I should make a Public Service Announcement like the one in the 70's with the Indian standing on the highway, looking at the trash, turning to the camera with a tear in his eye. Just replace him with a white, straight, flannel shirted, male with a blaze orange hat and hunting rifle in hand and stand him on I-95 at the Kittery toll both as a Subaru goes by with a "rainbow" sticker in the rear window.

It's a pitiful state we live in.  No one outside of Maine has NO clue to our plight here.


 


17 posted on 03/04/2005 5:36:15 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Puppage
Rep. Deborah L. Pelletier-Simpson is one of the most loony of the loony left in Maine.

We fought for years to get a Fatherhood Commission established in Maine to look at, among other things, the problems facing divorced dads. We were viscously opposed by the radical fems in the Maine legislature, who comprise a small group of about 10 or 12 women who seem to spend most of their day as being "outraged" about something or other. After hundreds of people testified in favor of forming this commission, the legislature approved it. While fatherhood commissions have done well in other states, Mike Saxl, at the time the radical lefty leader of the Maine House, appointed Deb Simpson to co-chair the commission - to assure it did not do anything. I sat in on the meetings and Simpson would smirk at men testifying about losing their children, and was generally rude and disparaging to them. When a matter came up of making sure that schools gave divorced dads accesstokids' records when those men had the legal right to see those records, Simpson declared" I would NEVER let my kids' dad have access to their school records!"

Her husband is involved in the Maine Democratic party and was recently chastised by the Democratic leadership for running a particularly insulting cartoon about a House Republican on the democratic website.

Maine legislators are part-time, and Deb Simpson's full time job is as a waitress. Noah Adams of National Public Radio did a series about a year ago where he traveled cross-country and interviewed "average" working men and women. He stopped in Lewiston, Maine to interview "average" waitress - who happened to be Representative Deb Simpson and her co-workers. Bag job.

Anyway, I think the loopy left is trying to bring this character up through the political ranks. Watch out!

18 posted on 03/04/2005 5:37:09 AM PST by Fido969
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To: VeniVidiVici
I think even the concept of stupidity is lost on the Democrats.

Excuse me, but they are full of chit right up to their eyebrows!

19 posted on 03/04/2005 5:37:14 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

I bet they do in Vermont. There are many there that have seen their state lost as well.


20 posted on 03/04/2005 5:38:43 AM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: ARCADIA
The best thing about Maine is that we always have the option to make it part of Canada.

Hey! They are coming on here in DROVES to shop!  Every other license plate you see up here is a Canadian.  Yet Mainer's are going by bus loads to Canada for cheaper prescription drugs.  Go figure.

21 posted on 03/04/2005 5:38:53 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: CSM
Is the 7% compounded on the 5% or additional to it. In other words, is the total tax 12% or 12.35%? I thought double taxation was illegal. Oh, yeah, I forgot about tobacco taxation policies that are applauded by so many freedom loving freepers.

The non-smokers poo-poo'd about us and how we complain about the treatment WE are getting.  Well, now CSM, it's starting to hit other's door steps.  Let's see how THEY like it!

22 posted on 03/04/2005 5:40:54 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: metesky
1.) Why do they need anyone to run the metal detectors? Shouldn't they just respond with a loud screeching alarm?

2.) I hadn't realized Maine had such an epidemic of violence at its court houses. They don't? Never mind...

metesky, you know as well as I that our lawmakers want to hang onto their pet programs since the FEDS have cut a lot of spending.  This is just another back-door attempt by Augusta to keep their mother load of money coming in.  They can't kid me!


23 posted on 03/04/2005 5:43:53 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Muleteam1
God I thank thee for giving my ancestors the wisdom to make a left turn when they got off the boat.

Amen, brother. Turn left until you see the beach and smell the barbecue.

But seriously, why try to stick this tax on lawful gun owners? LAWFUL gun owners don't shoot up courthouses. CRIMINALS shoot up courthouses, and even that doesn't happen very often. Who is this tax going to protect? Lawyers and judges. Tax the lawyers then! They can afford it for their personal security.

Hey, I have a great idea! Let's start a whole new tax branch of the Treasury and call it something like the 'Bureau of Firearms and Explosives'. Then just let those nice people run things. They'll know what to do.

24 posted on 03/04/2005 5:44:08 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: SheLion
Pelletier-Simpson said that she chose to tax firearms rather than other potential weapons such as knives, because as a victim of domestic violence she believes guns are deadlier.

I guess hubby beaned her a little too hard with that set of encyclopedias. Must have been volume 7, "G".

25 posted on 03/04/2005 5:44:39 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Shortwave
I bet they do in Vermont. There are many there that have seen their state lost as well.

Let's face it.  Kennedy has a strangle hold on New England.  Until that idiot retires or dies, New England will always be the BLUE states.


26 posted on 03/04/2005 5:46:33 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

How about a beer tax to cover the entire cost of the Highway Patrol, rehab centers, etc.


27 posted on 03/04/2005 5:48:17 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: metesky
I guess hubby beaned her a little too hard with that set of encyclopedias. Must have been volume 7, "G".

Seriously, I believe that we all need to congregate at the state house and protest so loud the whole lot of them walk out the door and resign.  I thought that was a beautiful thing!

28 posted on 03/04/2005 5:48:51 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: TC Rider
How about a beer tax to cover the entire cost of the Highway Patrol, rehab centers, etc.

That will be next, you watch.  There is already talk about the Governor bringing back the state liquor stores.  Guess that idea of getting rid of them didn't work out so good, eh?  We can thank Guv King for THAT one!

29 posted on 03/04/2005 5:50:21 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

Well, no. That idiot sells our revenue generators to make up shortfalls in today's budget. What a moron! Think about it for a minute, sell off the few things that actually make money to make up for a budget shortfall today. And it gone, all gone. It's spent and we are out of business. How idiotic is that?!


30 posted on 03/04/2005 5:54:18 AM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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To: SheLion
Pelletier-Simpson said that she chose to tax firearms rather than other potential weapons such as knives, because as a victim of domestic violence she believes guns are deadlier.

Ah yes, another "victim." Let's make her personal experience the basis for public policy, it's only fair.

I don't suppose the idea that one of those deadly guns might make it possible for her to defend herself would ever enter her "mind."

31 posted on 03/04/2005 5:58:46 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: Shortwave
>>I've had many friends move away to the southern states to take work and leave Maine. I'm so saddened and at times it depresses the hell out of me.<<

As in a Petri dish innoculated with a fast-growing baterium, the decay of culture first starts at the point of innoculation. Rest assured that this same decay is also setting in places like Texas and New Mexico. Texas has its share of ugly, bitter and mouthy old women. I offer Molly Ivens as an example. And New Mexico can't seem to escape it's desire to have a Democratic governor. The point here is that the cultural decay has not had as long to proceed in the South as it has on the east coast. As the South ages we Southerners are also getting our share of the liberal rainbow airheads. I believe it was Karl Marx who indicated that civilized governments evolve from democracies to communism. I may not disagree with his observation but would add that this evolution is less an evolution which selects for beneficial characteristics, than a natural decay of culture and society.

Muleteam1

32 posted on 03/04/2005 5:59:14 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: SheLion
Thanks D, it will be in tommorrows issue. You know the d's are goiing nuts, they are doing, with the ample help of the rinos, some really nutty things.

Jake

33 posted on 03/04/2005 6:05:14 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: Shortwave
Write it up as an editorial and send it to us at: letters@Christian-news-in-maine.com what you have to say should be read by more than just Maine Freepers.

Jake

34 posted on 03/04/2005 6:07:06 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: Sender
>>But seriously, why try to stick this tax on lawful gun owners?<<

Unfortunately, the leaders who now survive in politics are those who can safely jump in front of the stampeding herd and not those who can turn it.

Muleteam1

35 posted on 03/04/2005 6:07:40 AM PST by Muleteam1
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To: SheLion

Soooooooooo..........how many people have been killed in the court house? I think it is telling that there are screams of angst about making a place safe that is already safe. I have not seen headlines about wholesale carnage in Maine courtrooms.


36 posted on 03/04/2005 6:08:12 AM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: newsgatherer
Thanks D, it will be in tommorrows issue. You know the d's are goiing nuts, they are doing, with the ample help of the rinos, some really nutty things.

Jake

Oh Jake! Thank you!  The more eyes that see this, the better off we will be.  We have to get the word out about what our lame lawmakers are doing to their constituents in this state.  And isn't it funny how they pick and choose which group gets hit with a tax next?  It's mind boggling.

They must think they have a bunch of sheeple out here and we just bow and say "Yes Master.  Do as thy will."  Well, they are California dreaming if they think like that.  Because we sure aren't and WILL not become sheeple for the MASTERS in the Maine State House!


37 posted on 03/04/2005 6:15:56 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: Sunshine Sister
"Soooooooooo..........how many people have been killed in the court house?

Uhhh.... none.

But, let's see, how many men in the Maine Child Support system committed suicide last year? Somewhere between two dozen and fifty or so, I can safely estimate.

So, we are spending 3 million a year preventing NO deaths - merely making the loony judges and fems who own the courts feel all warm and fuzzy and important - while and spending $0 to help men who are dying every month after being crushed by the state bureaucracy?

I think that tells you what value the state puts on certain of it's own citizens.

Anyway, I'd guess that Rep. Simpson, being a "victim of domestic violence" and all, probably considers it a success when one of those bad divorced men blows their own brains out.

As long as they do it quietly at home, it's no trouble to her and her radical feminist pals.

38 posted on 03/04/2005 6:17:27 AM PST by Fido969
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To: Madame Dufarge
I don't suppose the idea that one of those deadly guns might make it possible for her to defend herself would ever enter her "mind."

She has one big screw loose!  At least the state house got their elevator music and heated steps! heh!

Too bad that the $175,000 art work that Gov King wanted to purchase for the state house fell through, isn't it?  I think it was all of US that put a big stop to THAT waste of money. 

39 posted on 03/04/2005 6:18:24 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

What part of "...Shall not be Abridged" do they not understand?


40 posted on 03/04/2005 6:25:23 AM PST by drc43 (We have 4 years left to get it right)
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To: drc43
What part of "...Shall not be Abridged" do they not understand?

Once they promise us the moon and get our vote, and then sit in their cushy seats in the State House, they could care less about their constituents. Except their PET constituents! I'm am sick of it.

Let's do like the Lebanese and clean house. heh!

41 posted on 03/04/2005 6:28:08 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: SheLion

Does anyone blame me for leaving Maine? Come to Missouri y'all, it's great. Taxes are lower, weather is better, people are friendlier, guns and ammo are cheaper, and there is a LOT less regulation. Plus you get to cower in fear from tornados every spring.

Maine is like living in a frozen, socialistic Scandinavian country, but without all the good looking blondes. Although, I must admit that I miss moose season.


42 posted on 03/04/2005 6:29:01 AM PST by ExpatGator
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To: SheLion
Glessner also has said that about 85 more court security officers are needed to operate the X-ray machines and metal detectors.

So actually this is nothing more than a jobs program for court security officers.

Gotta repay all those party hacks somehow.

43 posted on 03/04/2005 6:30:12 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
I think it would be "safe" to say that this tax will lead more people to dealing under the table. Therefore making illegal gun sales more attractive.

These people are soooooo smart aren't they?


44 posted on 03/04/2005 6:32:35 AM PST by unixfox (AMERICA - 20 Million ILLEGALS Can't Be Wrong!)
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To: SheLion
I'm gonna run it as the lead secular story with a link back here, so that our readers can see what Maine Freepers ahave to say, let me know if the thread gets invaded by flamers will you,

Jake

45 posted on 03/04/2005 6:35:03 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: ExpatGator
Maine is like living in a frozen, socialistic Scandinavian country, but without all the good looking blondes.

You escaped just in time, there's actually a move afoot to make Moxie the official state drink.

I guess crank-case oil was already taken by another state.

46 posted on 03/04/2005 6:35:47 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: SheLion
One of the alst stories in this weeks paper shows how off to the left baldacci and his minions and his ilk are:

Governor Baldacci of Maine post proposed legislation on homosexual website before State web site.
Citizen Alert Maine Christian Civic League by Tim Russell, Legislative Liaison

If you think Governor Baldacci is Governor of ALL the citizens of Maine, then write, call, e-mail him (and your legislators) asking why the full text of his "gay" rights bill is displayed, in its entirety, on the web site of the Maine Gay Lesbian Political Alliance (aka Equality Maine) and NOT on the State Web site for all citizens to read? Talk about your arrogance and elitism! The citizens of Maine must first go to a homosexual web site to read proposed legislation that will affect them and their children, before it is posted to the State's Web site.

As has been stated before, the Governor is supposed to represent all the people of Maine. As League President Rev. Dallas Henry said in the press recently, the Governor is really only interested in representing homosexuals. Rev. Henry says this clearly is the only logical conclusion an informed and fair minded person can form. ...

47 posted on 03/04/2005 6:37:56 AM PST by newsgatherer
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To: ExpatGator
Maine is like living in a frozen, socialistic Scandinavian country, but without all the good looking blondes. Although, I must admit that I miss moose season.

No wait a minute.  I take offense to that remark. LOL!

48 posted on 03/04/2005 6:40:56 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: newsgatherer
I'm gonna run it as the lead secular story with a link back here, so that our readers can see what Maine Freepers ahave to say, let me know if the thread gets invaded by flamers will you,
Jake

I will.

49 posted on 03/04/2005 6:42:01 AM PST by SheLion (The America we once knew and loved ........................is gone.)
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To: newsgatherer

I will consider that. Thank you.


50 posted on 03/04/2005 6:50:08 AM PST by Shortwave (Supporting Bush was a duty one owed to the fallen. Now, it is an honor.)
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