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Journalist shooting stirs Italian anger
ABCNews ^ | 5 March 2005 | Angela Doland

Posted on 03/05/2005 3:44:09 PM PST by Racehorse

ROME Mar 5, 2005 — Italy demanded answers Saturday as former hostage Giuliana Sgrena was taken off a flight from Iraq wrapped in a plaid blanket and hooked to an intravenous drip for a shoulder wound inflicted when American troops fired on a car taking her to the Baghdad airport. The Italian agent who negotiated her freedom was hit and died in her arms.

The shooting at a U.S. checkpoint in Baghdad stoked anti-war sentiment in Italy, where the public was widely opposed to the government's decision to send 3,000 troops to help U.S.-led efforts to secure the country from a violent insurgency. President Bush promised a full investigation.

About 100 demonstrators outside the U.S. Embassy in Rome blocked traffic and one banner read: "USA, war criminals." A few dozen communist demonstrators at the U.S. Consulate in Milan handed out leaflets reading, "Shame on you, Bush."

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"We thought the danger was over after my rescue," she told RAI News 24 television by telephone. "And instead suddenly there was this shooting, we were hit by a spray of fire. I was talking to Nicola … when he leaned over me, probably to defend me, and then he slumped over. That was a truly terrible thing."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: checkpoint; commiepawns; davos; easonjordan; friendlyfire; hostages; iraq; italy; journalism; lyingpress; media; sgrena; turass; war; wef
The Italians certainly deserve a full and complete explanation. But, the communists and protesters deserve spit, IMHO.
1 posted on 03/05/2005 3:44:14 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse
The truth will come out.

Our troops do not take pot shots.

2 posted on 03/05/2005 3:47:18 PM PST by don-o (Stop Freeploading. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: Racehorse

They should be angry at the driver for provoking our troops into opening up on the vehicle in the first place.


3 posted on 03/05/2005 3:49:37 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Racehorse

Something happened to cause the soldiers to open fire, so far what do we know besides they had failed to provide knowledge to the soldiers of her passing through, they were in an unmarked car speeding towards the checkpoint and failed to yield when they were warned.


4 posted on 03/05/2005 3:49:53 PM PST by Brian328i
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To: Racehorse
This is all not as it appears OpiniPundit
5 posted on 03/05/2005 3:51:14 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Racehorse

She wasn't worth it.


6 posted on 03/05/2005 3:54:38 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: RandallFlagg
Amen. You don't ignore warning shots and go barreling headlong into an American security checkpoint in the middle of Baghdad, unless you want to get air-conditioned by some badass boys with big guns.


7 posted on 03/05/2005 3:56:39 PM PST by Viking2002 (Let's get the Insurrection started, already..............)
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ALERT



The DU crowd and the Kos crowd are now into this the "US military did not want this Communist-Anti-War reporter to leave Iraq Alive" conspiracy theory.
8 posted on 03/05/2005 4:01:25 PM PST by BlackRain
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To: traderrob6
This is all not as it appears OpiniPundit

OpinPundit: "Lets take a closer look at alleged hostage Sgrena Giuliana her quotes and politics."

Yep.  Certainly . . . curiously provocative, she is.

 

9 posted on 03/05/2005 4:02:48 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

What was the Italian "spook" who was killed doing there in the first place?


10 posted on 03/05/2005 4:06:54 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: verity; Racehorse
What was the Italian "spook" who was killed doing there in the first place?

Negotiating her release.

In any case, the Italians have nearly 3000 troops there, so they are bound to have some intel guys there.

But, they would be familiar with the airport road, and the checkpoints, and used to working with American soldiers, which makes what happened very strange.

11 posted on 03/05/2005 4:09:41 PM PST by marron
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To: zoomie2
Didn't someone remark that maybe this kidnapping was a setup by her for publicity?

If so, I'd say it worked. Here's hoping she enjoys it.

13 posted on 03/05/2005 4:12:32 PM PST by Wormwood (Iń! Iń! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: marron
I saw "somewhere" where this spook was a rather senior operator. Oh, well. I guess the Italics do it differently.
14 posted on 03/05/2005 4:15:49 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Racehorse

Will she get a Purple Heart for her shrapnel wound? Maybe she and Kerry can swap war stories.


15 posted on 03/05/2005 4:18:50 PM PST by Gat˙n(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: verity

The "Italics"...the "ITALICS"...please tell me you meant to type that..?


16 posted on 03/05/2005 4:19:15 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Racehorse

And it was with macho Italian bravado that the driver of that vehicle was approaching the US checkpoint at high speed, and showed no evidence of slowing down. At this point, none of the checkpoint soldiers had any idea whether the vehicle was maybe loaded with 500 pounds of TNT, and they took precautionary steps to deter its closer approach. Somebody died and others suffered serious wounds, but playing chicken with military checkpoints is counterproductive.

Iraq is still a very dangerous place, and reckons to remain so for some time to come.


17 posted on 03/05/2005 4:22:08 PM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Racehorse
remember these two
18 posted on 03/05/2005 4:26:18 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Lurking2Long
Of course.

You have been around long to remember the old days when the failure of one poster to close the Italics font would carry that font through subsequent posts until someone closed it. Those people would then announce "Italians off."

I simply reversed it. lol

20 posted on 03/05/2005 4:28:29 PM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: verity
LOL!

Yes, I do remember those days...(sigh)...before the liberals and the RINOs moved in...

21 posted on 03/05/2005 4:31:33 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: traderrob6; All
remember these two

Stop it.  You're killing me.  LOL

No. don't stop.  Interesting, ominous connections, these are.  Fund raisers?

Here's the lead into what traderrob6 asks me to remember:

Italy's adoration of the "two Simonas", the women aid workers abducted in Iraq, began to sour yesterday, as the extent of their sympathy for the Iraqi fight against the allied occupation became clear.

In their first big interviews given since their release in return for a reported $1 million ransom on Tuesday, Simona Pari and Simona Torretta, both 29, gave their backing to insurgents opposing the allied forces.

Italians fall out of love with 'two Simonas'


22 posted on 03/05/2005 4:37:25 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse

Having liven in Italy for several years and returning on vacation frequently, the young left-wing fascist are at the bottom of this. They hate American and all we stand for as we defeated their God Communism. Since this reporter was released by the Arabs (after she faulted the US for the Iraq war) how do we know what she was up to? Why did the car not stop when ordered to do so? One does not try to run up on a check point when the evil devils are using car bombs to kill Americans.


23 posted on 03/05/2005 4:49:44 PM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: Racehorse

When the car was ordered to stop, why didn't it stop?


24 posted on 03/05/2005 4:52:06 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: Racehorse
A few dozen communist demonstrators

Typical. A few DOZEN commies and the MSM jumps on it.

Hey, it's war. You ignore the rules, - like not heeding the order to stop - and you pay the price. Nuff said.

25 posted on 03/05/2005 4:55:41 PM PST by utahguy (Ya gotta kill it before you grill it: Ted Nugent)
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To: alloysteel

As long as they don't try to pin the blame on our American military.


26 posted on 03/05/2005 5:08:26 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: Racehorse
Giuliana Sgrena

I wish only this disgusting old b*itch had died, just like her terrorist brothers whom she so revered and praised in her Communist rag for 2 years.

It makes my heart sink that such a brave man should die protecting someone so unworthy of his sacrifice. My prayers go out for the family of this fine man. But my most bitter enmity and hopes for a slow and painful recovery go out to this scum of the earth Sgrena, who wrote thousands of words in praise of those who have the blood of our soldiers--and Italian soldiers too--on their hands.

The Italian people should be ashamed of themselves for honoring her in any way. She is a piece of excrement.

27 posted on 03/05/2005 5:08:55 PM PST by montag813
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To: don-o

"We thought the danger was over after my rescue," she told RAI News 24 television by telephone.

...

It may be a stretch, but could it be that, thinking the danger was over, they were driving fast and furious like they were already back in Italy?


28 posted on 03/05/2005 5:13:17 PM PST by infoguy (www.frankenlies.com ... www.themediareport.com ...)
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To: Racehorse

The Italians are too emotional. Mamma Mia!


29 posted on 03/05/2005 5:17:24 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Racehorse

Tough sh*t! Speed into a checkpoint and get shot. Seems reasonable to me.


30 posted on 03/05/2005 5:18:31 PM PST by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: maxwellp

OH they will, bank on that


31 posted on 03/05/2005 5:19:21 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Racehorse

The Italian journalist is LYING!

It was an established checkpoint. The Italians should have known exactly what to do. There was no reason for them to run the checkpoint. Our men are easily recognizable - and surely the men in the car didn't believe we would stop the woman from being rescued.

When all the stories of the event match - except for the journalist - she will be shown for the liar she is. It was reported when they were bargaining for her that she was against the war .. so that will tell you she didn't have any regard for the American military.


32 posted on 03/05/2005 5:24:28 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: CyberAnt

Several lefty blogs which shall remain nameless are already pushing the idea that the military was told to snuff her. You know, Eason Jordan style


33 posted on 03/05/2005 5:27:42 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: traderrob6

Well .. that's another figment of their imagination!


34 posted on 03/05/2005 5:32:27 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: alloysteel
playing chicken with military checkpoints is counterproductive
Darwin award winner.
36 posted on 03/05/2005 5:52:24 PM PST by samtheman
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To: marron
In any case, the Italians have nearly 3000 troops there...

So why didn't the Italians go get their 'journalist'.

What the hell the Nazis rescued Mussolini!

37 posted on 03/05/2005 5:54:56 PM PST by JimVT (i)
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To: BykrBayb
"She wasn't worth it."

Without foreknowledge that she was, in fact, a terrorist herself, one might take your comment as being completely insensitive and to a large extent, humanely appalling.

38 posted on 03/05/2005 6:28:03 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Viking2002
Speaking of "badass", rumor has it that the next installment of SOCOM: Navy SEALS for the playstation 2 has close supervision by none other than..surprise surprise..naval special command (i.e. the navy seals). :)

That is..if you like strategic video games.

39 posted on 03/05/2005 6:34:06 PM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Windsong

She was not worth the cost. Take that any way you like.


40 posted on 03/05/2005 8:09:19 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: patco13

How does anyone not know this?


41 posted on 03/05/2005 8:20:03 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: traderrob6
Good find.

And I agree that something happened to cause the soldiers to open fire...it wasn't routine!

42 posted on 03/06/2005 2:15:14 AM PST by yoe
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To: zoomie2
Didn't someone remark that maybe this kidnapping was a setup by her for publicity?
Yes, and that could account for her being is such a hurry to get to the airport. If she stopped at a colition base she might be questioned and her story not hold up. Also could account for the Italians being in a rush to get her out, wanting to avoid her embarrassing their country.
43 posted on 03/06/2005 3:26:22 AM PST by jaykay (Old enough to know better, even by U.S. Supreme Court standards.)
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To: Lurking2Long
I must confess that when I questioned the 'spook' involvement, I had conjured up this reprehensible image of Porter Goss going into Iraq to rescue Helen Thomas.

P.S. I neither drink nor ingest any funny stuff. lol

44 posted on 03/06/2005 5:52:27 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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