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Joe McCarthy Once Again Blamed for HUAC
The Sporting News ^ | 3-7-2005 | Ken Rosenthal

Posted on 03/07/2005 2:40:55 PM PST by cainin04

I just wanted to pass this along. Rosenthal is a great sports writer, but he has fallen for the same mistake that so many other reports have--he claimed that Sen. Joe McCarthy was the head of the House un-American Activities Committee. SENATOR--HOUSE, what's that Mr. Rosenthal?

It is pretty sad that Sen. McCarthy's name is continued to be dragged through the mud for something he was not a part of.

Here is an excerpt...

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/3446114 An un-American pursuit Ken Rosenthal / The Sporting News Posted: 1 hour ago

When Sen. Joe McCarthy ran the House Un-American Activities Committee, innocent people were stained by the mere request to testify. Without legitimately obtained evidence against suspected players, the same concept applies.

Senior writer Ken Rosenthal covers baseball for Sporting News. Email him at kenrosenthal@sportingnews.com.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.foxsports.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: americans; communist; huac; marinecorps; marines; mccarthy; usmc; veterans

1 posted on 03/07/2005 2:41:01 PM PST by cainin04
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To: admin

If this is not the correct way to post an excerpt, let me know how to go about changing it.

thanks


2 posted on 03/07/2005 2:42:32 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04
Blamed? Why blamed?

Hunting down commies, and outing "liberals" who were really reds also, was a great benefit for our nation.

Bring 'em back!

3 posted on 03/07/2005 2:42:39 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: cainin04
It is pretty sad that Sen. McCarthy's name is continued to be dragged through the mud for something he was not a part of.
No. What is sad is that McCarthy was completely RIGHT about the commies in Washington and Hollywood.
4 posted on 03/07/2005 2:43:08 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: Jim Noble

Yeah, I agree. Every person I know of that he ever named a communist, was a communist!


5 posted on 03/07/2005 2:43:27 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: bikepacker67

yeah, that is true as well. McCarthy was a real patriot.


6 posted on 03/07/2005 2:44:08 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04
I think it would be so much more efficient if we replaced McCarthy's name with a number - like 2, for example. It would save liberal nit wits so much time. His name must be evoked a trillion times a year, about 85% of the time by people like this who have a thimblefull of knowledge when it comes to history.
7 posted on 03/07/2005 2:44:28 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: cainin04
Sportswriters, as a class, are said to be the most liberal of all journalists.

Bring back Baseball Digest.

8 posted on 03/07/2005 2:45:26 PM PST by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: Jim Noble
Bring back HUAC!
9 posted on 03/07/2005 2:47:54 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: cainin04

We need more J. McCarthy's in my view.


10 posted on 03/07/2005 2:49:06 PM PST by pissant
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To: cainin04
"I made a wrong mistake." Yogi Berra (and soon to be Ken Rosenthal).
11 posted on 03/07/2005 2:49:33 PM PST by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: cainin04
When Sen. Joe McCarthy ran the House Un-American Activities Committee, innocent people were stained by the mere request to testify.

LOL!

12 posted on 03/07/2005 2:53:23 PM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: cainin04

I don't know how old Rosenthal is, but he likely learned his sistory through books that were scrubbed clean of commie tyranny. Joe McCarthy was right... our government was infiltrated by communists. Joe Stalin was evil... and killed millions.

Ask the descendants of the Katyn Forest Massacre which one was the good Joe.


13 posted on 03/07/2005 2:54:02 PM PST by get'emall (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: cainin04

There is more than one error to correct. It was the House Committee on Un-American Activities not the House UnAmmerican Activities Committee. The acromyn "HUAC" (first used by leftists) is therefore inaccurate.


14 posted on 03/07/2005 2:56:30 PM PST by Austin Willard Wright
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To: cainin04
House Un-American Activities Committee

This is an amphibole deliberately invented by the left-wing press to smuggle in the 2nd meaning (that the committee's work itself was un-American). The ACTUAL name of the committee which Joe McCarthy (being a SENATOR, HellOOOOO!!!!) was NOT a member of was: "The House Committee on Un-American Activities" ("HCUA").

15 posted on 03/07/2005 2:57:16 PM PST by FreeKeys (“Most journalists are stupid, ... catty, lazy, vengeful and humorless. ....” -- Ann Coulter)
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To: cainin04; All

so WHAT IS Rosenthal's email address, ANYWAY??????????????


17 posted on 03/07/2005 3:05:23 PM PST by FreeKeys ("What can journalists do that we can't? Nothing." -- John Hinderaker)
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To: Austin Willard Wright; FreeKeys

thanks for that info, I did not realize.


18 posted on 03/07/2005 3:11:39 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04

Dear Mr. Rosenthal.

You really need to check your facts, and to read your history once and awhile. Your statement “When Sen. Joe McCarthy ran the House Un-American Activities Committee,” is a completely stupid sentence because SENATE members do not run HOUSE committees, they are different braches of the Government.

Sen. McCarthy goal was to take communist out of high or secretive government positions. Would you really want a Soviet spy at the Commerce Department of Defense, or in Russian code breaking? If you actually did any research you would find that recently released Russian documents proved Sen. McCarthy was RIGHT, that NO innocent people were stained by the mere request to testify, and that he was subject to a smear campaign by the communist. In fact McCarthy created horrendous fear among the Soviet apparatchiks and the champions in the Democratic Party.

Today “McCarthyism” means pointing out a positions taken by liberals that are unpopular with the American People. Which you apparently have done.

I would suggest you give up a few ball games and read Ann Coulters’ Treason, it will give you the education you never got from public schools.

Exton


19 posted on 03/07/2005 3:12:26 PM PST by Exton1
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To: FreeKeys

kenrosenthal@sportingnews.com


20 posted on 03/07/2005 3:12:41 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: Exton1

Excellent letter


21 posted on 03/07/2005 3:13:42 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04

McCarthy was right


22 posted on 03/07/2005 3:20:21 PM PST by joesnuffy (If GW had been driving....Mary Jo would still be with us...)
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To: cainin04

http://gunnyg.blogspot.com

GLOBE and ANCHOR Weblog..... by Gunny G!
Wednesday, November 05, 2003

ANN COULTER REVEALS TRIP TO SENATOR MCCARTHY's GRAVE

Wednesday, June 25, 2003 noon EDT

Coulter Reveals Visit to Sen. McCarthy's Grave

Ann Coulter's new book "Treason" - get your copy FREE with NewsMax magazine!

Joe McCarthy died in 1957, long before Ann Coulter was born, and like most Americans her age, she grew up in an era where the widely accepted image of the Wisconsin senator was that of a man dedicated to the destruction of civil liberties and the slandering of the innocent.

But her careful research in preparation for her book "Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism" taught her that this image was not only false but also defamed a man who sacrificed his career, and ultimately his life, in a courageous campaign to protect his nation from the treasonous activities of people acting solely in the interests of the Soviet Union, and against those of the United States.

In an upcoming exclusive interview with Phil Brennan for NewsMax magazine, Ann told Phil that in late May she journeyed to McCarthy's hometown of Appleton, Wisc., to pay honor to the memory of Sen. McCarthy by visiting his burial place.

She recalled her visit to the cemetery where the senator, a World War II Marine veteran, is buried.

"I was out in Appleton laying flowers on McCarthy's grave," she told NewsMax.com not long after returning from the trip.

"He was quite a man and the grave was fabulous. I was wondering how I'd find it, but as soon as I stepped out of the car at St. Mary's cemetery, McCarthy's gravestone was the first thing I laid eyes on.

"It's an imposing gravestone at the edge of the cemetery overlooking a lake. Apparently, his wife Jean is buried with her second husband - so there is Joe McCarthy, standing tall and brave, all alone still today.

"Now here's the interesting thing: As I drew closer, I saw something lying on top of his gravestone. From a distance it looked like an old horseshoe crab, and given the poppycock about McCarthy, at first I thought someone had defaced his grave.

"But when I was right on top of it, I saw that some appreciative American had left a cast image of the U.S. Marine's Eagle, Globe and Anchor [symbol] on top of Joe's grave."
http://www.newsmax.com/archive/print.shtml?a=2003/6/25/115910
Editor's Note: Make sure you read NewsMax's exclusive interview with Ann Coulter. Get NewsMax Magazine - and Ann Coulter's "Treason" FREE. Click Here Now.
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23 posted on 03/07/2005 3:22:32 PM PST by gunnyg
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To: Jim Noble

Because SENATORS do not run HOUSE committees.

The guy is blaming him for running a HOUSE committee when McCarthy WAS NOT A HOUSE MEMBER - HE WAS A SENATOR.


24 posted on 03/07/2005 3:38:55 PM PST by CyberAnt (Pres. Bush: "Self-government relies, in the end, on the governing of the self.")
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To: cainin04

Sen. McCarthy was right.


25 posted on 03/07/2005 4:05:44 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: festus

exactly. Every person McCarthy ever called a communist--was a communist!


26 posted on 03/07/2005 4:11:03 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04

So you think Gen. George C. Marshall was a communist?

Morons.


27 posted on 03/07/2005 4:13:19 PM PST by briancarnell
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To: festus

McCarthy was partly right, and for that he deserves our praise and admiration. However, he got carried away with the spotlight (and a drinking problem) and started making reckless charges. That's all the Dems and MSM needed to destroy him.

An earlier poster was right. Sports writers are a very liberal bunch. I wonder if it has something to do with wimpy men watching athletes in various states of undress. You know, maybe some kind of penis envy or homoerotic arousal.


28 posted on 03/07/2005 4:23:58 PM PST by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: briancarnell
So you think Gen. George C. Marshall was a communist?

Well, there IS a story there. You shouldn't be so quick to throw the "moron" label around.

29 posted on 03/07/2005 4:51:06 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: briancarnell

I don't remember him saying Marshall was a communist. I know he was very critical of him, but can you provide me with a link on this statement that he called Marshall a communist?


30 posted on 03/07/2005 4:51:11 PM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: neocon1984
I was under the impression that the vilification by the left is what fueled his drinking.
31 posted on 03/07/2005 5:32:43 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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To: briancarnell
So you think Gen. George C. Marshall was a communist?

Morons.

Is that an argument?

32 posted on 03/07/2005 6:48:09 PM PST by stands2reason (Mark Steyn on GWB: "This is a president who wants to leave his mark on more than a cocktail dress.")
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To: stands2reason; All

The writer of the story emailed me back. Here is what he said.

William,

Thanks for the note. I corrected the mistake to note that there were two different entities. You would be amazed by some of the E-mails I'm getting on this subject, accusing me of following a leftist agenda. A guy can't even screw up anymore without people ascribing sinister motives to it!

Thanks,
Ken


33 posted on 03/08/2005 9:30:00 AM PST by cainin04 (It is not a calamity to die with dreams unfulfilled; it is a calamity to not have any dreams.)
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To: cainin04

I know that McCarthy was right in what he did. I just don't know how history books keep saying he "Provided no evidence". I have read most of Treason, but maybe he didnt need any evidence..or am I wrong?


34 posted on 03/16/2005 3:51:28 PM PST by dawn_fayhe
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To: John Valentine; briancarnell; WmShirerAdmirer; lunarbicep
McCarthy, Joseph R. America's Retreat from Victory: The Story of General George Marshall. New York: Devin-Adair, 1951. A ghost-written right-wing diatribe by the infamous junior senator from Wisconsin in which he asserts that Marshall was a Communist dupe and thus to blame for much of what was wrong in the world. --marshallfoundation.org

and...

George Catlett Marshall (1888-1959) was a failed Army man starting in 1902 until 1933 when he came under the protective wings of KGB "Agent 19" Harry Hopkins and pinko Eleanor Roosevelt. In 1933 he was promoted to Colonel. In 1939 he was appointed Chief of Staff and four-star General of the Army over more than 400 hundred more qualified and senior individuals. --GENERAL GEORGE C. MARSHALL, COMMUNIST (refers to McCarthy's accusations)

McCarthy's accusations are expressed here, in an online rendition of America's Retreat from Victory

35 posted on 07/09/2005 1:21:34 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Valentine; briancarnell; WmShirerAdmirer; lunarbicep

The French always seem to try making things we do look like a waste of time and money. The Marshall Plan and how much we spent on them comes to mind.


36 posted on 07/09/2005 1:32:10 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: dawn_fayhe
I just read a few months ago, that the KGB files released after the fall of the Soviet Union, had provided over 300 names that were in and around government at this time that were real card carrying commies. The story was trying to prove that Alger Hiss was the named KGB agent in the files.

I have had people try to lessen the value of these claims by saying something like "Even Lucile Ball was accused of being a commie by McCarthy". Well, as it turned out, she was. I loved to watch her on TV, but she registered to the communist party in the '30's. Poor judgment doesn't make you innocent. And McCarthy's drinking didn't make him wrong.

37 posted on 07/09/2005 1:35:09 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

I shudder to think how much influence the communists have had on our society.


38 posted on 07/09/2005 1:38:45 AM PDT by John Filson
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To: bikepacker67

McCarthy never said one thing about communists in Hollywood. McCarthy was mostly concerned about communists in the military and gov't.


39 posted on 07/09/2005 1:38:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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