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Sen. George Allen for President?
NewsMax ^ | 3/7/05 | Kathleen Antrim

Posted on 03/07/2005 6:12:22 PM PST by wagglebee

Speculation rages as to who will run for president in 2008. It takes only a few minutes of conversation with Republican Senator George Allen of Virginia to understand why top-level Republicans are encouraging him to run. His easy charm, straight talk, quick wit, mental acuity and experience separate him from the pack of would-be candidates.

Formerly the governor of Virginia, Sen. Allen also served as a U.S. representative and in the Virginia House of Delegates. Now serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he's putting his experience to work around the globe.

While on a recent trip to the Middle East, Allen met with American military troops and government officials from both Iraq and Israel.

Allen told me about his long and encouraging conversation with Ibrahim al-Jaafari of the United Shiite Alliance – the mostly likely choice to be the next Iraqi prime minister.

I asked the senator if he was concerned that al-Jaafari might turn Iraq into a theocracy.

Without hesitation, he responded: "No. Not with him [al-Jaafari]."

Allen detailed his talk with the Iraqi leader, where they agreed on many important principles. They discussed the four pillars of freedom: freedom of religion, expression, private ownership of property, and the rule of law under a system of justice.

The senator brought a copy of the Virginia Bill of Rights to share with al-Jaafari, which Allen considers to be even stronger than the ten amendments that were adopted to form the Bill of Rights.

Allen said that al-Jaafari considers himself to be a religious man who believes that there must be religious tolerance and that all Iraqi citizens must have equal rights. Religion should neither enhance nor diminish a citizen's rights.

Al-Jaafari even pointed out to Allen that the United States has "In God We Trust" on our currency, but there is still tolerance. And al-Jaafari specifically stated that he didn't want Iraq to be like Iran.

Allen explained the significance of al-Jaafari's potential rise to power. If al-Jaafari becomes the next Iraqi prime minister, then Iraq will be the only Arab country to be ruled by a Shiite. All other Arab countries are ruled by Sunnis. (Iran is considered Persian, not Arab.)

This is a great opportunity to show the Arab world that the Shiites can govern. And to that end, al-Jaafari told Allen, he felt a huge responsibility to succeed.

During their talk, they shared some Virginia peanuts, after al-Jaafari politely asked the senator to taste a few first. Yes, Iraq is a dangerous place and Iraq's future leaders obviously can't be too careful.

I asked the senator how he felt the recent attacks would affect the momentum in Iraq. He noted that the attacks were focused increasingly on the Iraqi people themselves, which he believes undermines the goals of the insurgents. Instead of intimidation, this brutal violence seems to be solidifying the resolve of the Iraqis.

"These attacks aren't going to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people," Allen said. "The more vicious and vile these attacks become, the more it reminds the [Iraqi] people of what they don't want for themselves and their children."

"I have a great deal of faith and belief in human beings to want to live free and chart their own course," Allen said.

So, one has to wonder what course Sen. Allen has set for himself. Could the son of the great football coach George Allen be the next president of the United States? I'd certainly keep my eye on the proverbial ball.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008gopnomination; allen2008; georgeallen; gopcandidates
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I've met George Allen a number of times, he is a great man of incredible vision and committment. However, I'm not sure he has the national exposure to have the top spot, I would love to see him as Condi Rice's running mate.
1 posted on 03/07/2005 6:12:25 PM PST by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

I enjoy hearing him speak as he is always interesting and enlightening.


2 posted on 03/07/2005 6:15:09 PM PST by msnimje
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To: wagglebee

If I had to bet the house right now on a next president, my money would certainly be on Allen.


3 posted on 03/07/2005 6:17:10 PM PST by Diago
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To: wagglebee

I hope he goes for it-I'd sure vote for him.


4 posted on 03/07/2005 6:17:58 PM PST by izzatzo
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To: wagglebee

I wrote to Senator Allen and asked him if he would mind sending a personal letter to my daughter for her 13th birthday. He responded with a very warm, educational, personal letter. I think I was more thrilled by it than my daughter. He is a good man.


5 posted on 03/07/2005 6:18:05 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (Romeo&Juliet, Troilus&Crisedye, Bogey&Bacall, Gable&Lombard, Brigitte&Flav)
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To: wagglebee

I'd love to see former Rep. J.C. WATTS run for Prez....


6 posted on 03/07/2005 6:21:13 PM PST by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: wagglebee
I've met George Allen a number of times, he is a great man of incredible vision and committment. However, I'm not sure he has the national exposure to have the top spot, I would love to see him as Condi Rice's running mate.

I think you're right. Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.

SO9

7 posted on 03/07/2005 6:21:28 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: wagglebee

Bill clinton didn't have national exposure initially and look what happened. I think senator Allen would be a terrific candidate. He has name recognition from his father. I understand he was a great governor.


8 posted on 03/07/2005 6:22:46 PM PST by DWC
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To: libertyman
I'd love to see former Rep. J.C. WATTS run for Prez....

J.C. Watts is like Jack Kemp, pretty smart for a football player, but not near presidential caliber.

SO9

9 posted on 03/07/2005 6:23:24 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: izzatzo

"I hope he goes tfor it-I'd vote for him"

Amen....he's my early choice for 2008 with either Condi or Jeb as the VP......I know, I'm probably dreaming but hey - at least it's not a nightmare - say hitlery & who? what idiot would want to be on a ticket with her hinny-ness!!!


10 posted on 03/07/2005 6:28:20 PM PST by BamaDi
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To: Servant of the 9

Neither of those men are presidential calibur.

Remember, Governers, not Senators.


11 posted on 03/07/2005 6:28:28 PM PST by TypeZoNegative (Future Minnesota Refugee)
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To: wagglebee

I like him but what dollar daddy will he owe his butt to?


12 posted on 03/07/2005 6:28:53 PM PST by ex-snook (Exporting jobs and the money to buy America is lose-lose..)
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To: DWC

Allen was a wonderful governor. Unfortunately, his successor (Jim Gilmore) was a disaster who forced a stupid tax cut through and wound up looking like a fool because of it. Before you get carried away, I believe in all tax cuts. But this one was an elimination of automobile property taxes, it was an insignificant tax cut and when the state had budget problems (the Virginia Constitution requires a balanced budget), Gilmore refused to bend on this. This basically eliminated any chance of the GOP candidate being elected governor in 2001 (a Virginia governor can serve unlimited terms, but he cannot succeed himself).


13 posted on 03/07/2005 6:29:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Diago

We will know he's a contender for sure when the 'rats start calling him stupid, mean-spirited, and for tax cuts.


14 posted on 03/07/2005 6:31:29 PM PST by Kenny500c
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To: wagglebee

Are you from Virginia??


15 posted on 03/07/2005 6:33:48 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Snapping Turtle

We heard this guy at CPAC.


16 posted on 03/07/2005 6:34:21 PM PST by Rabid Dog (Make a difference in your community - Join your local Free Republic Chapter!)
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To: org.whodat

I live in Virginia Beach.


17 posted on 03/07/2005 6:34:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

I like George Allen alot. If he is as focused as his father was he would make a great president


18 posted on 03/07/2005 6:34:55 PM PST by slowhand520
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To: wagglebee
my screen saver at work is the windows flying text "Allen/Rice 2008". I actually had someone at work ask me who Allen was, and I LIVE IN VIRGINIA!
19 posted on 03/07/2005 6:35:25 PM PST by DYngbld (Allen / Rice in 2008)
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To: Servant of the 9

You don't think so, huh? How come?

I ask 'cuz the J.C. Watts I see on TV seems to be quite eloquent, he has a VERY positive attitude (IMO), has decent conservative principles, & is rather intelligent...or so I thought.


20 posted on 03/07/2005 6:41:24 PM PST by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: wagglebee
Anyone with the name George Allen will have a tough time carrying Texas.


21 posted on 03/07/2005 6:41:49 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: wagglebee

Allen was a governor and if he did not compromise too much as a Senator, Would be a good choice.


22 posted on 03/07/2005 6:44:02 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: DWC

I think that Ross Perot may have somethin to do w/ the election of my former Governor Bill Clinton, wouldn't it?


23 posted on 03/07/2005 6:45:10 PM PST by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: libertyman
You don't think so, huh? How come?

You think he sounds bright, I think he sounds half bright.
Personal opinion.

I also think smart preachers don't have illegitimate children.

SO9

24 posted on 03/07/2005 6:45:53 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9

Hmmmmmm....I never knew about that, thanx for lettin me know. No tellin how many skeletons are in people's closets.


25 posted on 03/07/2005 6:50:10 PM PST by libertyman (It's time to make marijuana legal AGAIN!!!)
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To: Dog Gone
What if the alternative was this?!


26 posted on 03/07/2005 6:50:37 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Well, hell, I'd vote for Joe Theismann over that alternative.


27 posted on 03/07/2005 6:53:55 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: wagglebee

Well, I can tell you that the part of virginia I live in wouldn't vote for allen for dog catcher.


28 posted on 03/07/2005 7:02:14 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

What don't you like about him?


29 posted on 03/07/2005 7:03:03 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
I'm not sure he has the national exposure to have the top spot

How much did we know about GWB in 1997?
I didn't know GHWBush had two sons, let along two sons in politics!!

30 posted on 03/07/2005 7:03:57 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Servant of the 9

George Allen has beaten the Clinton machine twice. Once running for governor and once running for senator. Condi Rice is a very popular person but will not beat Hillary. We elect governors as Presidents.

National exposure? Let's talk NFL. What national exposure did GWB have when he ran. 18 months before the 2000 election I was saying to myself who is this man.

I have been posting George Allen for President in 2008 since December. He's a cowboy like GWB.

Condi could be his running mate but I don't think she would do it yet.

Jerome Corsie "Unfit for duty" said he was going to move to Mass. and go after Kerry's senate seat. The Swift boat vets are targeting both Kerry and Hillary. It's only the news media that wants to play Kingmaker with Hillary. Let's see how things shake out in '06.


31 posted on 03/07/2005 7:04:27 PM PST by mombrown1 (The CPAC taxi driver)
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To: wagglebee

He's been my early choice since the election. Of course I could change but whomever it is should continue the course. I know some want to shift toward McLame or Rudy but that won't happen. Frist is the most right but he's not too charismatic.


32 posted on 03/07/2005 7:06:59 PM PST by byteback
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To: wagglebee

Watch Rice.


33 posted on 03/07/2005 7:10:25 PM PST by onedoug
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To: mombrown1
National exposure? Let's talk NFL. What national exposure did GWB have when he ran. 18 months before the 2000 election I was saying to myself who is this man.

GWB would never have had a prayer except that his name was George Bush. Being Governor of Texas helped, but right up to the 2000 election lots of people thought he was his father.

I doubt if more than 20% of the people in the country have a clue who George Allen is. The republican who can beat Hilary is going to have to be someone whose name is already familiar to a great majority of the country. The fact that Allen, despite being Governor and Senator hasn't gained that name recognition shows me he hasn't got the 'star power' to be a viable candidate.

Rudi Giulianni
Arnold
Colin Powell
Codi Rice
Don Rumsfeld

Not a very happy list, but that is about all we have in the way of stars.

So9

34 posted on 03/07/2005 7:15:29 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: wagglebee

"Senator" George Allen - no, sorry.


35 posted on 03/07/2005 7:15:54 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: wagglebee

Very interesting! Great find. This is the reason why bloggers are so succesful is cuz this story gets burried by the MSM. He offers a very encouraging view of Jafari(sp).

lol - even the fact that he was worried about being poisoned by a US senator.

VA bill of rights is a great thing to share with jafari(sp), they are a great model. The private property bit is encouraging too. Most people don't realize Iraq was socialized under Saddam Hussein and still is to some extent.


36 posted on 03/07/2005 7:25:47 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm)
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To: wagglebee
Look, we need a Governor and Condi. Let's look for a native born Governor that is a real Republican, put our efforts behind him and get him ready for '08. I am as sick and tired of this constant campaign as all of us are, but if that's the way the communists want it, that's the way they'll get it.
37 posted on 03/07/2005 7:32:19 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: timydnuc
Let's look for a native born Governor that is a real Republican

Any ideas?

38 posted on 03/07/2005 7:33:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Not yet, but the term is young.


39 posted on 03/07/2005 7:41:15 PM PST by timydnuc (I'll die on my feet before I'll live on my knees.)
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To: TypeZoNegative

Allen is the former governor of Virginia. Apparently the state has a very strict term limits law that prohibits a governor from even serving TWO terms.


40 posted on 03/07/2005 7:45:08 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert.)
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To: Servant of the 9; wagglebee
Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.
Is he overage in grade? People who attain the governorship of a state and don't get to be at least VP within 14 years of that time, ain't gonna be elected president. When was Allen first elected governor? If it was after '94, he is still a prospect.

41 posted on 03/07/2005 7:46:38 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: wagglebee
Anyone that would call the Virginia car tax insignificant would not have a clue.

However, he, Allen, has thrown the Virginia tobacco farmer's butts under the bus every time he has had a chance. I've know several people that have sent him letters about disability claims and vet. problems and they have never received a reply from his office.
42 posted on 03/07/2005 7:53:22 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Servant of the 9

How well known was Michael Dukakis before he ran for president? Back then, the supposed superstar of the Democrats was Gary Hart, before his little boating adventure was found out. Then Dukakis came along and won the nomination. He was up 15 points over Vice President Bush at one time (before Bush exposed his liberal record to the public). For someone who wasn't well known, the public was at one time ready to vote him into office quite handily.

If nominated, a candidate has a fifty/fifty shot at becoming president. That goes for both sides.


43 posted on 03/07/2005 7:59:17 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Any Freepers who enjoy fantasy, I welcome to look at my FR homepage to take a look at my new book)
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To: wagglebee

Yes, but everyone knew she was in Iraq. I don't recall seeing or hearing anything about Sen. Allen being in Iraq and his meeting until now.


44 posted on 03/07/2005 8:28:27 PM PST by Seattle Conservative (Seattle Conservative)
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To: org.whodat; wagglebee; Coop; Gabz; Mudboy Slim; iceskater
Anyone that would call the Virginia car tax insignificant would not have a clue.

How significant it is depends a lot on your locality.

However, wagglebee is partially correct about the "elimination" of the tax. I've said it here dozens, if not hundreds of times.

It was brilliant campaign strategy. It was poor policy.

The tax was NOT, and will not be "eliminated." You are still assessed your car tax just as you always were. The difference now is that the state pays a significant portion of that car tax. The locality still gets the same amount of money.

So, what the car tax bill did/does is eliminate a source of revenue (the taxpayer) and increase state expenditures on behalf of the taxpayer.

Now, having said that, it was not the car tax alone that caused the budget problems during the Gilmore administration. It's just not that simple.

45 posted on 03/07/2005 8:40:15 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: org.whodat
I've know several people that have sent him letters about disability claims and vet. problems and they have never received a reply from his office.

With all due respect, I'm skeptical about that.

I have first hand knowledge that was not the case when he was Governor. And I also know that he would not be pleased to know he has correspondence that is not being answered. Of that I'm sure.

It may not be the answer you or your acquaintances would like. But if you're not getting any answer, I'd put money on the fact that the Senator is not aware that mail in his office is being ignored.

46 posted on 03/07/2005 8:43:33 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

Allen ping.


47 posted on 03/07/2005 8:43:58 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Anyone who has his resume and is not a household name, and not just among movement republicans, hasn't got that little bit of "Elvis" it takes to be a poitical superstar or beat Hillary.

Name me one Republican with the name recognition that has the "Elvis" to beat Hillary.

George Allen may not be a household name (yet), but he's got all the "Elvis" he needs.

48 posted on 03/07/2005 8:46:04 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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To: Corin Stormhands
George Allen may not be a household name (yet), but he's got all the "Elvis" he needs.

Well, he hides it very well then.

So9

49 posted on 03/07/2005 8:47:35 PM PST by Servant of the 9 (Trust Me)
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To: Servant of the 9

Have you ever met him?


50 posted on 03/07/2005 8:48:10 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (One Iraqi purple finger took more courage than John Kerry's three purple hearts.)
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