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Bill Would Ban Abortions of 'Gay, Unborn Children'
CNS News ^ | 3-8-2005 | Susan Jones

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:01:12 AM PST by Pendragon_6

(CNSNews.com) - The Pro-life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians (PLAGAL) is applauding a Maine lawmaker for introducing a bill that would prohibit the abortion of unborn homosexual babies.

"We recognize that at this time the gay gene has not been isolated, but with all the advances of genetics, we believe that it may just be a matter of time" before a test for the predisposition of homosexuality will be developed, said Jackie Malone, executive vice president of PLAGAL, in a press release.

PLAGAL hailed Maine State Rep. Brian Duprey, a Republican, for his solid support of pro-life legislation and said it is glad he will continue his fight for the unborn, even in the case of sexual orientation.

"PLAGAL would like to point out that "gay rights" has nothing to do with so-called "abortion rights," the group said in a press release. "Gay, straight, male, female, or physically challenged -- all are human beings that deserve every chance for life."

Abortion is a way to get rid of real human beings who are threatening or undesirable, said Cecilia Brown, president of PLAGAL. "Children are routinely aborted now because of gender or disability, so it is not inconceivable to see people aborting because of a possible gay gene," she added.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Maine
KEYWORDS: abortion; gaygene; gays; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 03/08/2005 8:01:15 AM PST by Pendragon_6
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To: Pendragon_6
'Gay, Unborn Children'

They can tell their gay before they're born?/sarcasm

2 posted on 03/08/2005 8:03:36 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Pendragon_6

Government imposed forced pregencies for rape victims?

How does one know a baby in a womb is gay? We determined over 10 years ago there are no genes that cause homosexualty.


3 posted on 03/08/2005 8:03:48 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

Science means nothing to fanatics. They will always see a gay gene in the future.


4 posted on 03/08/2005 8:05:12 AM PST by Toto_for_breakfast
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To: Toto_for_breakfast

What a war to watch....abortion rights advocates vs. the sodomites!!! Let's step back and hope they kill each other off.


5 posted on 03/08/2005 8:06:24 AM PST by worldclass (WE NEED A NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY!!)
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To: Pendragon_6

Well .. it will be interesting to hear how the Libs will demand the right to abort gay babies


6 posted on 03/08/2005 8:06:26 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: edcoil
We determined over 10 years ago there are no genes that cause homosexualty.

Actually, there are quite a few gay Genes. I know one myself.

7 posted on 03/08/2005 8:06:48 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Pendragon_6

So it's only ok to kill normal babies?


8 posted on 03/08/2005 8:07:05 AM PST by Freebird Forever (Support your local gunsmith.)
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To: Puppage

This always struck me as an interesting one. Some gays seem to be on a quest for the Gay Gene to prove that they are like they are as a result of nature and not of choice, and that they cannot thus be condemned for their actions. Ignoring the non seq nature of this argument, they seem late in realizing the obvious conclusion ie. that if a Gay Gene is found, 'pro-choice' liberals will get to test their real commitment to gay rights when it comes to screening their own unborns, and I suspect that many, many gays will be aborted. There's some irony to this, I think.


9 posted on 03/08/2005 8:07:30 AM PST by MikeGranby
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To: Toto_for_breakfast

"gene" means genetic, homosexuality by is own cannot reproduce therefore, it cannot be genetic - therefore, you cannot be born gay.

Means there are no genes that make you that way becuase they cannot reproduce.


10 posted on 03/08/2005 8:07:42 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Pendragon_6

So this Duprety guy has a history of pro-life work?


11 posted on 03/08/2005 8:07:52 AM PST by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: edcoil
How does one know a baby in a womb is gay? We determined over 10 years ago there are no genes that cause homosexualty.

In cases such as this, it is nearly impossible to prove a negative. No one has found the 'gay gene', but liberals insist there is one based mostly on their feelings.

12 posted on 03/08/2005 8:08:17 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Pendragon_6

Let's pass a law... "just in case." Bad attitude for ANY issue.


13 posted on 03/08/2005 8:08:45 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Felonious Monk was no musician)
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To: Pendragon_6

This is a joke, right? ...



... right?...


14 posted on 03/08/2005 8:09:07 AM PST by pgyanke (Senate Republicans follow a policy of preemptive capitulation)
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To: worldclass
What a war to watch....abortion rights advocates vs. the sodomites!!! Let's step back and hope they kill each other off.

Hmmm... seems to me they already are - this would just speed it up.

15 posted on 03/08/2005 8:09:27 AM PST by Frapster (Mighty Warrior)
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To: worldclass

That's exactly, 100% the point of the proposal.


16 posted on 03/08/2005 8:09:37 AM PST by thoughtomator (Gleefully watching the self-demolition of all things left-wing)
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To: Pendragon_6
This would violate the 14th Amendment as it would give protected status to gay unborn children and would not protect non-gay unborn children.
17 posted on 03/08/2005 8:09:50 AM PST by taxcontrol (People are entitled to their opinion - no matter how wrong it is.)
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To: Pendragon_6
Excuse me? Since when can we determine whether a fetus will be born homosexual? Homosexuality is a conscious preference, not something that is found in the genes. Until someone can absolutely prove differently there should be no laws pertaining to this.
18 posted on 03/08/2005 8:10:57 AM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: KC_Conspirator
So this Duprety guy has a history of pro-life work?

I think he is really just trying to spin up liberals. Which way to go, support the right of the mother to abort or protect gays against genocide. Either way, a part of their base is ticked off. Since conservatives don't tend to believe in the gay gene theory, it's a no brainer to support the pro-life position.

19 posted on 03/08/2005 8:11:57 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Pendragon_6
Here is a thought, we should support this bill as a first step to banning abortion all together:

First no abortion for Gay babies. Next we can't discriminate, so no abortions for Black or brown babies. But wait, that's racial profiling, so NO abortions PERIOD!!

20 posted on 03/08/2005 8:12:46 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Someday I will fondly look back on the day Hillary's career ended. Starting tomorrow, I hope.)
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To: Pendragon_6

Cool. Now we tack on an amendment to the same bill to protect HETEROsexual babies too, and the battle is over.


21 posted on 03/08/2005 8:12:49 AM PST by St. Johann Tetzel (Rule One! No Poofters!)
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To: edcoil

"..."gene" means genetic, homosexuality by is own cannot reproduce therefore, it cannot be genetic - therefore, you cannot be born gay.

Means there are no genes that make you that way becuase they cannot reproduce....."

Ah, but what of spontaneous mutation? If there is a so-called gay gene, you cannot dismiss the possibility that it is a spontaneously occuring mutation.....which could occur randomly in the population, without regard to heritability from the parents.


22 posted on 03/08/2005 8:13:38 AM PST by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: pgyanke
This is a joke, right? ...

Kind of. The intent is not a serioius law, but to put liberals in an awkward position of having to choose between pro-abortion or pro-gay.

23 posted on 03/08/2005 8:13:48 AM PST by Always Right
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To: edcoil
"gene" means genetic, homosexuality by is own cannot reproduce therefore, it cannot be genetic - therefore, you cannot be born gay.

If there is a "gay gene" it might well be recessive. So, straight people could be carriers of the gene without being gay themselves. So, even if gay people didn't reproduce, the "gay gene" would carry on.

24 posted on 03/08/2005 8:14:09 AM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Doc91678

It is an elegant strategy.


25 posted on 03/08/2005 8:14:39 AM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Pendragon_6
The Pro-life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians (PLAGAL) is applauding a Maine lawmaker for introducing a bill that would prohibit the abortion of unborn homosexual babies.

Meanwhile, abortion of normal, healthy babies can continue unabated.

26 posted on 03/08/2005 8:14:53 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Puppage

I think by "gay, unborn children" They are referring to any unborn inside a homosexual man, injected there by another homosexual man or in a lesbians womb, injected by another lesbian.

Poor gays- being discriminated against again-Heterosexuals may abort but they may not.

Blatent homosapienphobia.


27 posted on 03/08/2005 8:16:55 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (When the left hates you, rejoice, for you are right!!!!!)
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To: Pendragon_6

Oh this is rich. A gay gene that tells if the kid is gay. So if the kid is born and he is not gay, this should make his life so much fun.

"Billy, why aren`t you interested in Barbie dolls and Judy Garland?"

"I hate that stuff! I wanna play football! Waah!"


28 posted on 03/08/2005 8:18:33 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Puppage

They hold the umbilical cord with their little fingers raised.


29 posted on 03/08/2005 8:19:34 AM PST by relictele (so there)
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To: Pendragon_6

What about the liberal gene, have they isolated that yet? It`s a gene that causes a person to have the utmost love and facination with everything that defies logic. "President Clinton rapes women? Oh elect him to another term!" "Marion Barry smokes crack? Oh elect him to another term!" "Ted Kennedy got drunk and let a woman drown in a car? Elect him to another term over and over and over."


30 posted on 03/08/2005 8:23:29 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Pendragon_6
For a good laugh, see how the DUmmies are reacting to this...
31 posted on 03/08/2005 8:24:43 AM PST by bikepacker67 ("Donovan McNabb... I can't HEAR YOU" < / Who's your Mommy>)
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To: Pendragon_6
Gay Gene..


32 posted on 03/08/2005 8:25:26 AM PST by Imaverygooddriver (I`m a very good driver and I approve this message.)
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To: Pendragon_6
Bill Would Ban Abortions of 'Gay, Unborn Children'

Oh, MAN! Please tell me this doesn't apply to the gay baby whales. I just authorized a tactical nuclear strike and I think I left the recall codes in my other uniform.

Unbelievable.

33 posted on 03/08/2005 8:32:08 AM PST by LTCJ
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To: Pendragon_6

These people are nuts. Unbelievable. I thought I'd heard everything. When I first saw the title, I thought it was a joke. A baby is a baby, a gift from God.


34 posted on 03/08/2005 8:39:04 AM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle
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To: Pendragon_6

We really need to test our water supplies for hallucinogens.


35 posted on 03/08/2005 8:51:08 AM PST by polymuser
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To: edcoil
You wrote: "Government imposed forced pregencies for rape victims?"

For or against? Why does the details surrounding the conception have bearing on the right to life of the child in the womb? If one believes that the child in the womb has a right to life I don't see rape as a factor that changes that right. The child didn't rape the woman.

36 posted on 03/08/2005 8:51:58 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Pendragon_6

Wouldn't that law be discriminatory?


37 posted on 03/08/2005 8:54:34 AM PST by Mike Darancette (MESOCONS FOR RICE '08)
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To: Pendragon_6

Suddenly, her body is not her's and her's alone, after all. Okay to abort the child for any number of serious to superficial reasons, but denying the ranks of homosexuals another member will now become illegal.

Sickening.


38 posted on 03/08/2005 9:05:47 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: Pendragon_6

Sigh.

Again, virtually everyone MISSES THE POINT of the legislation.


39 posted on 03/08/2005 9:09:59 AM PST by Guillermo (Abajo fidel: End the Cuban Trade Embargo)
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To: Pendragon_6

If all babies were proven to have the gay gene, recessive or not, would abortion still be legal?/semi sarcastic


40 posted on 03/08/2005 9:13:39 AM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: MikeGranby
This always struck me as an interesting one. Some gays seem to be on a quest for the Gay Gene to prove that they are like they are as a result of nature and not of choice, and that they cannot thus be condemned for their actions.


What would be very interesting is what do the gay activists do with people who have the gay gene, but opt to behave heterosexually, and those who have the straight gene, but choose to be gay.

I can imagine the fractiousness in the gay political community that this would generate. Consider the social conflicts in the black community over dark versus light-skinned blacks.
41 posted on 03/08/2005 9:31:34 AM PST by Beelzebubba (Your Friendly Freeper Patent Attorney)
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To: edcoil

There are no male calicos either, except that there are.

Besides, gays can most definitely reproduce. All it takes is a single union with a member of the opposite sex... perhaps not their preference, but it is possible. Especially considering the stigma placed on homosexuality and the historical prevalance of gays marrying outside their own gender in order to hide their queerness.


42 posted on 03/08/2005 9:42:03 AM PST by flada (My other tagline is a Mercedes Benz.)
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To: Pendragon_6

Look, y'all. The big confusion here is over semantics.

It is entirely possible for a condition to be inborn and innate, which is what the gay activists are talking about, without it being carried in the genetic code.

Perhaps a strong tendency towards homosexual attraction can be created by a temporary hormonal fluctuation in the mother at a critical point in the child's development. Many if not most birth defects are of this type.

A much more logical approach than a gay gene.

Now whether to call this a "birth defect" is an issue that will really get people rolling.


43 posted on 03/08/2005 10:27:46 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Pendragon_6
I said several years ago when the "gay gene" discussion was all the rage that if it does exist the left was going to have a real problem in their ranks.

How to pacify both the rabid abortion supporters who would never allow for any intrusion on "abortion rights" and the gay activit extremists who would want to make it illegal to abort a baby with the gay gene.

Seems we shall soon find out.

44 posted on 03/08/2005 11:15:53 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Advantages are taken, not handed out)
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To: Pendragon_6
I think this proposal is most likely to be a clever ruse by conservatives to pit one liberal faction against another.

In reality, the only people who would want to abort a gay fetus are the same people who are against abortion to begin with. A Christian family may not want to have a gay kid, but are they likely to abort it? No. A more liberal family that is not against abortion probably wouldn't mind having a gay kid.

45 posted on 03/08/2005 1:23:03 PM PST by nyg4168
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To: MikeGranby
Some gays seem to be on a quest for the Gay Gene to prove that they are like they are as a result of nature and not of choice, and that they cannot thus be condemned for their actions.

That's a double-edged sword. Any condition that can be traced back to genetics is also potentially a condition that could be corrected with gene therapy.
46 posted on 03/08/2005 1:29:58 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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To: Puppage

its a demonstrating absurdity with absuridity.

Homosexuals say there is a gay gene. IF there is a gay gene detection test then parents will be able to abort babies with such a birth defect, just like down syndrome or anacephalic babies. Thus the homosexual advocates would say abortion should be limited.

Abortion advocates have to say that sexual behavior has no "gay" gene and thus abortion can not be limited by this concept.

Its a catch 22 for the left on all levels.


47 posted on 03/08/2005 1:35:11 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: beezdotcom

Which is the beauty of the excercise. If forces them to admit that there is no homosexuality gene.


48 posted on 03/08/2005 1:38:34 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory
If forces them to admit that there is no homosexuality gene.

But you missed my point...even if there WERE, they dare not admit it.
49 posted on 03/08/2005 1:48:39 PM PST by beezdotcom (I'm usually either right or wrong...)
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