Reaction from the lead map namer at Rand McNally.
After this photo was taken he was overheard screaming in the lobby; "WHY, WHY CAN'T THEY LEAVE THE NAMES ALONE!! DON'T THEY KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO CHANGE OUR MAPS?!?!?"
Posted on 03/08/2005 12:27:50 PM PST by HAL9000
JOHANNESBURG - South Africa's capital has renamed itself Tshwane and the 150-year-old name, Pretoria, will only refer to the city center, an official said on Tuesday.Pretoria itself will not include the seat of power, where Nelson Mandela was sworn in as South Africa's first black president in 1994.
The African National Congress-dominated council decided to adopt the new name late on Monday and the South African Geographic Names Council, which has the final say, is expected to give its assent.
The city's new name comes from a chief who ruled in the area before the Voortrekkers, settlers of Dutch and French Huguenot descent, arrived in the 19th century and founded the city, which they called after one of their leaders.
"The decision of council yesterday was that the capital should be Tshwane and Pretoria is but a small suburb," said council spokesman William Baloyi.
The imposing Union Buildings, which house the presidency on a hilltop overlooking the city, fall in the suburb of Arcadia, not Pretoria, Baloyi said.
Tshwane had been used for the past 10 years to refer to the greater metropolitan area around the city, which is home to about 2.5 million people.
Established in 1855, Pretoria was named after Andries Pretorius, a leader of the Afrikaans-speaking settlers who "trekked" into the interior of the country to escape British rule.
Almost 11 years after the end of white minority rule, many place and street names in South Africa still echo the country's colonial and apartheid-era past.
One of Johannesburg's main streets is still named after Hendrik Verwoerd, the architect of apartheid and the doctrine of "separate development" used to justify racial segregation.
Going, going, gone :(
Great song..."Way down upon Tshwane River".
We are marching to ... Tshwane? It doesn't have quite the same ring.
"We are marching to Tshwane..." Hmmmmmm it doesn't have the ring to it the old song name had.
This is utterly ridiculous. Say farewell to the Beloved Country.
Regards, Ivan
Great minds go in the same direction...
Yes, and I was afraid nobody would even remember that "Whitey" song.
Turning this once fertile and productive nation over to a gaggle of communist inspired lunatics was sheer genius.
Wonder how long the wineries of Capetown will be able to hold out before a gang of neo Mau Maus will take over and turn the vineyards into sorghum beer breweries.
First, Rhodesia, now Pretoria. Next up, Johannesburg.....
Already did that...years ago.
ZA ping.
Now repeat after me, but first, remember a certain clucking sound, inserted directly into speech, that you might have heard in the film "The Gods Must Be Crazy"....
"T(cluck)schwanaaay"
"T(click)schwanaaay"
Any questions? ;)
What's the correct pronunciation? With a Tsh, is that a "tish" sound?
The slow painful transformation from a strong economy, exporting country to a third world dump...just like their neighbors to the north. I guess we ought to just get used to the idea that we will have to feed them too eventually.
Reaction from the lead map namer at Rand McNally.
After this photo was taken he was overheard screaming in the lobby; "WHY, WHY CAN'T THEY LEAVE THE NAMES ALONE!! DON'T THEY KNOW HOW LONG IT TAKES US TO CHANGE OUR MAPS?!?!?"
Our goobermint shouldn't be feeding anyone, especially the abortion that South Africa has become.
As far as the rest of Africa, the European nations that granted these tin horn nations their "independence" should have to go back in and take over. The inhabitants are incapable of ruling themselves.
How sad.
This changing of names is so....third worldish.
"try to visit "Tshwane" in the springtime (October) when the jacaranda trees (60,000 of them) are in bloom-- Absolutely beautiful."
Was going to say the same about Jo-burg. The Jacarandas in bloom are simply stunning.
So long Pretoria.......
Well the ANC can call whatever it wants, but to most people it'll still be Pretoria.
Anyway, something somewhat positive I found:
The God of Blood River (your Deliverer) will return when the men of prayer of Blood River (the Sarel Cilliers’) return to their God.
I too need to do this; more than most of you. Someone once said that God is using me to show you His love. How true that is I do not know, and it is an awesome responsibility, if it is true. I do know that I have a very real, very deep love for you that otherwise makes no sense. I have said to someone once before … my life has taken me down paths that my sisters’ lives did not follow, and thus they do not understand my very deep emotions for the Boers --- The why’s and wherefores --- Some of these I do not understand myself, which brings me to the conclusion that I have been led to this, that it is a calling upon my life --- How true that is however, I do not know. All I do know is that my emotions are very real. All I am is someone who has seen your very great pain and suffering and has been deeply moved by it; to the point that I can no longer remain silent about it. And that is all that I am; Nothing More; Just a humble servant of the Afrikaner/Boers.
I predict Washington, D.C. will be renamed to Martin Luther King City by 2050.
How do it do that??? Don't the people who live there have anything to say?
Wouldn't 'HellHole' be more descriptive?
I agree.
I just e-mailed the Mrs. about it, but she hasn't gotten back to me yet.
Your sarcasm is showing!
Why not look at the bright side?
There's...
Ummmm well, then there's...
Wait a second...
Give me a minute.
Ahhhhhh.. Ummmmm...
How about if I get back to you?
Ditto...Haven't been back since '84.....Cape Town originally.
HPH...Hou poephol hou!
The South African Capital, just as the article states. "South Africa's capital has renamed itself..."
We are Marching to our tree shack will be the sing along.
An e-friend of mine lives in South Africa, has for decades. She was telling me a couple of weeks ago that their house had been burglarized for the third time in a year. I suggested moving to a more upscale neighborhood and she told me they already live in an upscale neighborhood. Very very sad. And so curious how SA dominated the news for so long, yet we virtually NEVER hear a word about what's going on there now from the MSM. Government health care paying for witch doctors. Staggering crime rates. Can you just IMAGINE the coverage we'd have rammed down our throats if the country had improved?
MM
Hoert julle hiere
Since the giveaway some statistics soar. Every 14 seconds, in South Africa, a girl under 12 is being raped.
The once wildly productive RSA is quickly being relegated to the status of a Zimbabwe, (or is it Zimbabme? Or Zimbabyou?)
What a sad thing for a nation that produced all the foods required and had great manufacturies.
In the mid 80's I spent the better part of a month touring this nation and stayed in the same hotels as blacks, sat next to them in hotel restaurants and bars and worshipped with them in the local Catholic Churches. I watched as some drove new Mercedes down the motorways. I looked at the handsome homes many lived in. I also saw Soweto.
Most inhabitants of Soweto were those that crept illegally (like our friendly neighbors South of our borders) across The SA border from impoverished nations in order to find work as their own tin-horn nation had been bankrupted by their communist-trained rulers.
The reasons that the US and European nations helped kill the goose that laid the golden egg was in order to turn this once great nation over to a gang of communists in order that it be ruined beyond all recognition.
What other reason could there have been?
Perhaps it was to fold it, uncomplainingly, into the dirty pot where the other failed African States now stew in an unsavory and unhealthy stew.
I wonder if that's what our leaders have in mind for the USA? If so I can see that progress is being made.
Vark vleis vir 'n goeie tyd!
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