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Personal Accounts Tank in Polls, GOP Says (social security reform)
Yahoo News/AP ^ | March 8, 2005 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:39:25 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: kabar
How will Congress replace the lost revenue? Borrowing more money through Treasury Bonds. The additional borrowing will increase the national debt, which means that we will have to pay more to service the debt annually.

Also, as interest rates rise, we will have to pay more as we create new debt and rollover old debt. It could get quite expensive since interest rates are at quite a low spot right now.

101 posted on 03/09/2005 6:48:32 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: FreedomNeocon
You'd think after they "accidentally" couldn't get the election right 3hrs before the final count, that people even pay attention anymore.

Yes, pollsters certainly appear to be third-rate hucksters; there are now enough of them out there predicting the presidential campaigns that at least one usually can come close enough to crow victory, but I cannot imagine why anyone pays any attention to them since most are naturally anywhere from off to way off. And I certainly cannot see why anyone would pay for such shoddy work.

102 posted on 03/09/2005 6:52:55 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

Exactly. The impact on our economy will be devastating should inflation and increased interest rates kick in.


105 posted on 03/09/2005 8:00:22 AM PST by kabar
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To: snowsislander; kabar

If kabar is right that already 17 cents on every dollar is spent on interest, then its even more painful then I thought. Interest rates only have one place to go.. up. And especially if we don't look like a great investment to the Asian creditors, they are going to want a higher rate of return.

I can see if the nation was in real jeopardy of being destroyed by a hostile power.. borrowing from foreigners as a last ditch effort. But to finance an entitlement program seems suicidal.


107 posted on 03/09/2005 11:48:20 AM PST by ran15
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To: ran15

http://www.businessforum.com/debt01.html


108 posted on 03/09/2005 12:21:08 PM PST by kabar
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To: azcap

"...and rip a 15 foot tapeworm out of her gut."

I like my analogy better. A tapeworm doesn't need to be replaced with anything after you rip it out.


109 posted on 03/09/2005 6:22:16 PM PST by Sun Soldier
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To: Torie
Do you or do you not believe that the money now removed from one's earnings via FICA belongs to that person?
If so then who are you to tell that person how their money should be invested? The entire point of all this is to gradually, (over several years or longer), allow citizens to completely divest oneself from the FICA scheme and plot their own course.
110 posted on 03/09/2005 6:30:21 PM PST by jla
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To: Torie
Thus Bush cannot really make the case, and will not make the case.

Bookmarking to later serve back to you, along with your foot and a serving of crow.

111 posted on 03/09/2005 6:31:45 PM PST by jla
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and plot their own course.

With the government of course there to pick up the pieces if necessary. This society will not tolerate old folks having to hold up signs, "Will work for food."

112 posted on 03/09/2005 6:34:37 PM PST by Torie
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To: jla

Fair enough. Get back to me one way or the other, OK?


113 posted on 03/09/2005 6:35:22 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
With the government of course there to pick up the pieces if necessary.

I see the glass is always half empty in your mind. I have a little more confidence in the positive repercussions of freedom. And this, make no mistake about it, is about economic freedom.

114 posted on 03/09/2005 6:39:52 PM PST by jla
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To: winner3000
So much for the greatest generation. Even though they won't be affected, the old geezers will still prevent reform to the system until it is totally bankrupt for us younger folks.

Of course, what do they care? They suckered us into subsidizing their hypochondriac lifestyles, so they got what they want.

115 posted on 03/09/2005 6:49:58 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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