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Iranian Alert - March 9, 2005 - Iran tells EU to back down on nukes
Regime Change Iran ^ | 3.9.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 03/09/2005 2:19:46 AM PST by DoctorZIn

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Iran tells EU to back down on nukes

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iranian officials have threatened to break off negotiations with France, Britain and Germany if the three European Union heavyweights continue to insist that Tehran abandon all sensitive atomic activities.

European officials began a new round of talks with Iranian negotiators in Geneva aimed at working out a permanent resolution to the standoff over Iran's nuclear programme, which Washington says is a front to build atomic weapons.

Tehran insists it is intended solely to generate electricity and has rejected an EU demand to terminate its uranium enrichment programme, which could be used to produce fuel for nuclear power plants or atomic weapons.

"If the Europeans refuse our proposals in the talks during the next couple of days, their proposals will be strongly opposed by Iran as well," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi was quoted as saying by Iran's students news agency, ISNA.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, European diplomats close to the talks told Reuters no breakthroughs were expected.

In a further sign of defiance, Iran's parliament on Tuesday added a clause to next year's budget bill obliging the government to conduct feasibility studies for the construction of nuclear power plants that would generate 20 gigawatts (GW) of electricity.

The government has so far only announced plans for producing 7 GW of power from nuclear reactors by 2020. Iran's first 1 GW reactor is due to come on stream in late 2006. Despite abundant oil and gas reserves Iran says it needs atomic energy to preserve its export revenues from fossil fuels.

The official IRNA news agency said lawmakers also obliged the government "to take necessary measures to produce and supply part of the fuel" for the reactors.

COMPROMISE OR BUST

The EU says Iran must provide "objective guarantees" that it is not pursuing atomic weapons -- which they say can be nothing short of a termination of enrichment. Iran says increased inspections and limits on enrichment levels would suffice.

Sirus Naseri, a senior member of Iran's negotiating team, told Iran's state television from Geneva that without a compromise there would be no point in further negotiations.

"If ambiguities over the guarantees remain in place, continuation of the talks will be meaningless," he said.

This view was seconded by others in Tehran.

"If the Europeans demand and insist on cessation, it will mean the end of the negotiations," Ali Aghamohammadi, head of Iran's Supreme National Security Council's Propaganda Office, told state radio on Monday.

"In that case, surely we will resume our uranium enrichment activities. Also we will accelerate our activities to master the nuclear fuel cycle," he said.

On behalf of the 25-nation EU, the trio have offered Iran economic and political benefits if Tehran gives up enrichment.

In a significant shift in strategy towards arch enemy Iran, U.S President George W. Bush is leaning toward backing the EU offer of incentives, U.S. officials say.

However, he is demanding assurances from Europe that if Iran fails to cooperate, the EU will back a referral to the U.N. Security Council, which could impose sanctions.

Iran has frozen most of its enrichment programme as a voluntary confidence-building measure but has told the EU three the freeze would be short-lived. The Europeans want the suspension made permanent.

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1 posted on 03/09/2005 2:19:48 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 03/09/2005 2:23:21 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn
"If the Europeans demand and insist on cessation, it will mean the end of the negotiations,"

The idea here is non-proliferation... if Iran persists in this demand for nuclear armament (for peaceful means) then what we need is an endless round of sanctions to make the iranian people suffer.

That will teach those mullahs.

3 posted on 03/09/2005 2:29:46 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: Samurai_Jack

EU Negotiators to Bloodthirsty Iranian Mullahs: IF YOU DONT COOPERATE, WE WILL HURT THE IRANIAN DEMOCRACY MOVEMENT!


4 posted on 03/09/2005 2:35:33 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: DoctorZIn
Iranian officials have threatened to break off negotiations with France, Britain and Germany if the three European Union heavyweights continue to insist that Tehran abandon all sensitive atomic activities.

I was never a fan of Britain parlaying with the mullahs anyway; I hope Blair is now satisfied that speaking to them is a waste of time. The carrot has been tried - it's now time for the Mother of All Sticks.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 03/09/2005 2:40:15 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan

What can the EU do that Russia and China cannot undo?

Unless, of course, you are speaking of military force, but then again, what can the EU do?

I'm only asking because this article, basides a sideways reference to what Bush "might" think, speaks only to the EU and Iran.


6 posted on 03/09/2005 2:49:52 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952

Britain can send the SAS behind the enemy lines to sabotage the Iranian facilities. It's tricky and expensive to redo all that - Saddam found it tough once the Israelis took out his reactor.

Regards, Ivan


7 posted on 03/09/2005 3:04:15 AM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: MadIvan
I like that the "Mother of all Sticks", let's just add to that the MOAB's and we just may have a winner. Amen.
8 posted on 03/09/2005 3:07:43 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Samurai_Jack

EU countries have already damaged the Iranian democracy movement by trading and dealing with the Mullahs.
Their deals make the Mullahs legitimate!


9 posted on 03/09/2005 3:15:31 AM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: gakrak; MadIvan
I like that the "Mother of all Sticks", let's just add to that the MOAB's and we just may have a winner

I second the motion to add MOAS (mother of all sticks) into the FR lexicon. Can we now bring the issue to a vote?

10 posted on 03/09/2005 5:20:12 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: All

Iran's freedom is near and it is gonna be from the bottom up! God Bless the Persians


11 posted on 03/09/2005 5:22:49 AM PST by meanie monster
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To: DoctorZIn

"In that case, surely we will resume our uranium enrichment activities. Also we will accelerate our activities to master the nuclear fuel cycle," he said.'

Who in their right mind believes that they've stopped and aren't working at an "accelerated" pace now?


12 posted on 03/09/2005 5:43:55 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: DoctorZIn
I have no problem with Iranian nuclear power plants, but we can not allow 1) heavy water reactors , 2) fuel processing or equipment for that, 3) storage of UF3 or UF6, 4) enrichment equipment (such as centrifuges etc.) and 5) heavy water production.

Thus it is OK to have Bushehr pressurized light water reactor, provided there is watertight control of the handling of the fuel and reprocessing outside Iran and that the 40-megawatt heavy-water research reactor at Arak 240 km south of Tehran, and the heavy water production plant there should be destroyed together with other heavy water reactors and enrichment equipment

Read more about enrichment here http://www.uic.com.au/nip33.htm
13 posted on 03/09/2005 5:47:51 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

Are you insinuating that the regime may have other than peaceful reasons for wanting nuclear facilities? tsk, tsk, tsk. They're only concerned about having electricity. ;~ p


14 posted on 03/09/2005 5:54:21 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: nuconvert

Yeah, and they are willing to go to war with the whole world to have that electricity!


15 posted on 03/09/2005 6:38:09 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: DoctorZIn

Bump!


16 posted on 03/09/2005 6:57:20 AM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: DoctorZIn
"President Bush's advisers ill-serve the president, the nation and, indeed, future generations by suggesting it is still possible to cut a deal with Iran that will allow the mullahs to retain the capabilities to build more bombs. It is time for more forceful action and there is not a moment to lose."

This is a quote from the MUST READ article, written by Ken Timmerman, mentioned in the Doc's daily news list above. Folks, make sure you read that article!!

17 posted on 03/09/2005 7:19:29 AM PST by Reborn
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To: nuconvert
Are you insinuating that the regime may have other than peaceful reasons for wanting nuclear facilities? tsk, tsk, tsk. They're only concerned about having electricity. ;~ p

Yes, but not only that, I am writing typos as well; it should have been UF4 and not UF3. ;-)
18 posted on 03/09/2005 7:27:47 AM PST by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith

sshhhhhh......I don't think anyone noticed.... ;~ )


19 posted on 03/09/2005 7:37:09 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: DoctorZIn
Another good read on Iran!
20 posted on 03/09/2005 7:53:15 AM PST by Reborn
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To: MadIvan
As much as I'd like to, I just don't see that as practical.

Sure Israel knocked out Saddam's reactor, but that was overt, kickass, in your face, use of open military force, by a country that knew that it would exist no longer than the time it took Saddam to develop those bombs.

Sending SpecOps deep into Iran to damage a very heavily guarded installation, in a very alert country, sounds like a fairy tale.

Now if you were to suggest that England has the assets to openly bomb that reactor out of existence, and the stones to use them, then you will get my attention.

I don't think for a moment that anyone in this administration thinks that the EU proposals will go far.

And then we will see what happens.

As for the other posters that believe that Iran is about to undergo a popular rebellion, please do not hold your breath. It's a nice thing to want to believe.

Isn't going to happen.

21 posted on 03/09/2005 9:05:28 AM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: AdmSmith

hehehehe


22 posted on 03/09/2005 2:04:26 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: DoctorZIn

Doc
Today Tehran was scene of a small scale protest of Teachers.
Did you notice that?


23 posted on 03/09/2005 2:06:19 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: DoctorZIn; AdmSmith; MLedeen; Eurotwit; McGavin999; peacebaby; RaceBannon
Major development

The Mullahs finally cancelled the jail and death sentence of that famous university professor today.

Mr. Aghajari, today, was informed about the cancellation of his sentence.

That is some sort of victory of the student movement in Iran!

24 posted on 03/09/2005 2:36:14 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: DoctorZIn
NEWS NEWS

The Mullahs lift the ban on one of the most vocal papers named NESHAT.

it was the paper who insulted Khamenei and questioned his legitimacy and also printed articles on the Shah and wrote truth about his reign.

Most of the staff writers jailed after the ban and now some of them except one or two are free and they are going to publish the paper again.

25 posted on 03/09/2005 2:37:39 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: DoctorZIn; freedom44; Valin; AdmSmith; PhilDragoo; nuconvert; McGavin999; dixiechick2000; ...

Do you know this guy?

No? So let me introduce...

Mr. Ebrahim Yazdi

American citizen

Former Iranian foreign minister in 1979-80

Former Revolutionary prosecutor of Tehran and responsible for the mass murder of the best Iranian citizens in 1979, Including General Jahanbani, Nasiri, Oveisi, Badrei, Rabiee and lots of the Shah's loyalist civil personnel.

NOW

This criminal wants to run for presidency to save the regime from the current quagmire.

I think he is the Iranian version of Ralph Nader.

26 posted on 03/09/2005 2:44:27 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar

Iranian Ralph Nader ....LOL


27 posted on 03/09/2005 2:45:34 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: Khashayar

No. What did you hear?


28 posted on 03/09/2005 2:50:08 PM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: MadIvan; nuconvert; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP
Saddam found it tough once the Israelis took out his reactor.


29 posted on 03/09/2005 7:57:10 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: DoctorZIn

More than 200 Tehrani teachers gathered to protest in front of the Islamic Parliament!


30 posted on 03/09/2005 8:14:20 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar

He's an American citizen? And he wants to run for president where? He's got to be joking!


31 posted on 03/09/2005 8:14:31 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999

Hi,
Actually he has an American passports, lived in the US and received medical care in the past few years.

He is a close friend of Berzhinsky/carter as well!


32 posted on 03/09/2005 8:15:46 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: Khashayar

Wouldn't you know it! I guess that's how he managed to become a citizen. I hope the Iranian people don't fall for him.


33 posted on 03/09/2005 8:17:10 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999; nuconvert; freedom44; parisa; Reza2004

I am sure no body buys the crap the regime tries to sell.

This guy and any other state reformers who can stand by that onion marked flag has no position among Iranians today!


34 posted on 03/09/2005 8:53:57 PM PST by Khashayar
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To: PhilDragoo

The United States learned about the possible transfer just weeks after China pledged to halt assistance to Iran's nuclear program. The pledge came in the wake of a visit to Washington by Chinese President Jiang Zemin last October.

"The Chinese followed through on it and kept their agreement to the letter," said President Bill Clinton. "I'm well pleased, actually, with the way that issue came out."


But critics of the Clinton administration's policies toward China believe the incident is fresh evidence that China's commitment to keeping its pledge not to help Iran is questionable.

When Iranian Mullahs visit China they stay at the lovely Shenzhen Norinco Hotel


"See...I told you Norinco would come thru"

Cosco...when its just got to get there


"Dammit!....this Iranian T.V. is crap....can't even get Bollywood Porn here....at least Pakistan had Bollywood"!

35 posted on 03/09/2005 9:28:08 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: nuconvert; AdmSmith

Former MKO members call on international organizations to help repatriate victims from Iraqi camps

Payvand News
March 8th, 05

Zahedan, March 7, IRNA -- Former members of the terrorist Mojahedin Khalq Organizations called on international organizations to help repatriate their friends from Iraqi camp.

Mohammad Nour, one of the former members of the Mojahedin Khalq Organization (MKO) who has returned home from Iraq called on human rights organizations to help those being kept in the camps, come home.

He said that many of those being kept by the MKO had gone abroad to find jobs or for education, but, they have fallen to the trap of the MKO.

Those being kept in the MKO camp are exposed to hard labor without getting any reward. They are not allowed to leave the camp and go back to Iran under pretext that they will be put to death as soon as they arrive home, he said.

He called on the international organizations to help the people kept by the MKO leave the camp.

Some 19 members of the MKO from Sistan-Baluchestan province arrived in Zahedan on Tuesday and were welcomed by their families.

Meanwhile, about 276 penitent MKO members who have returned home after escaping from the camp in Iraq, were handed over to their families, the Salvation Society head said Monday evening.

Speaking at a ceremony on repatriation of eight MKO members, Ali Asghari, added, "Most of them had left Iran in hope of finding jobs, but they were trapped by the MKO agents and later taken to its notorious Ashraf camp in Iraq."

http://www.payvand.com/news/05/mar/1063.html


36 posted on 03/09/2005 10:04:35 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: Samurai_Jack

Ditto


37 posted on 03/10/2005 12:57:34 AM PST by Reza2004
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To: PhilDragoo; MadIvan; yall
The carrot has been tried - it's now time for the Mother of All Sticks.


38 posted on 03/10/2005 2:33:55 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: DoctorZIn
This thread is now closed.

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39 posted on 03/10/2005 4:53:36 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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