Posted on 03/09/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by qam1
As one of my favorite Freepers and someone who seems to know about fashion, I have a question for you: what is appropriate attire for a Gen Xer attending a performance by a symphony orchestra, which I am doing tomorrow night? Just curious.
Not even a little bit. We're talking about judging people's taste and understanding of decorum based upon their attire.
Of course dress codes are absolutely arbitrary and to argue otherwise is ludicrous. I don't think arbitrary means what you think it means. Arbitrary means "Determined by chance, whim, or impulse, and not by necessity, reason, or principle," according to Dictionary.com.
Standards of dress are not arbitrary. There are well-established rules as to what is appropriate in a given situation.
Exactly. We don't have a collection plate either. The whole idea is to make church accessable.
Yeah, on that particular day, I just didn't have time to run store to store. I was already in the second store when I gave up and bought the Levi's.
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"Hey, that's America. Out here we have "Surf Church" and "Beach Church;" very informal. Myself, I want high ritual, pipe organ, stained glass, dark corners, incense, Latin, and no half-measures. Worship (and dress, I suppose) as you see fit."
I've heard of churches like that (beach churches, etc.). I also enjoy the traditional style of churches (pipe organ, rituals, etc.) I am mindful of the fact that all "churches" are created and built by man, and I believe that they are what we, as humans, felt were comforting and pleasing to us, and we hope, please to God as well.
Then again, I must admit there are times when one hears sermons about helping the poor and sick, and then at the end of the service gather to discuss what we'll do with the church funds as to what that "needed" addition to the church should look like and who should be hired to design it, or "new gowns for the choir", .....well, sometimes I wonder if that money shouldn't have been given to those less fortunate even if it meant we would have to worship God on the beach. I'm sometimes confused by what we consider "traditional" churches, with all the fancy stuff, and if it really IS pleasing to God. sigh
In Texas a man who's wearing a fanny pack is advertising that he's a cheap SOB who won't spring for a decent holster.
When I see a person (who's not homeless or hopelessly poor) wearing jeans to churches, weddings, funerals, etc., I see a very selfish person who respects no one, not even themselves.
I'm 25 and I'm a tattooed rock and roll guy, but I took my girlfriend to the philharmonic last month.
I wore a dress shirt, coat, and tie. She wore a nice dress.
FWIW I don't think it should matter how old you are or what generation you are, it's more of a respect for yourself, your date, and the institution.
But apparently I'm an elitist snob according to some people here...
"In Texas a man who's wearing a fanny pack is advertising that he's a cheap SOB who won't spring for a decent holster."
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Now admittedly there are some circumstances where one should dress up (see my prior posts) but going to the store (Which includes ALL places where you are buying anything) is not one of them.
Just for the record, I don't think you're an elitist snob. I think you dress up when you feel it is appropriate attire and by the sounds of it, you treat your girlfriend with respect and treat her as she deserves. I do respect your opinions.
Matthew 22:10-14: "Those slaves went out into the streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests. 11 "But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12 and he said to him, `Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?' And the man was speechless. 13 "Then the king said to the servants, `Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."
Well...it seems like you named yourself right, then if have actually worn jeans to a wedding and a funeral. Sounds like you are too lazy to dress appropriately....:(....or didn't have any respect for the other people.
And no, not everyone looks the same in a suit whether they're a biker or a billionaire. The shaved head, goatee (van dyke really) down to my breast bone, too tan face and wind worn face, earing, etc etc all scream that I don't belong in a suit.
Even though I can get away with not wearing a tie because you can't see it under the beard anyway, I'm obviously uncomfortable to boot, which just further exacerbates the whole image. Nothing looks worse on a man than the pained look that he'd rather be lying down on the runway at the airport.
I wear jeans boots and western shirts or blouses every day to work at my job and I am in the top administrative position for our branch of an international corporation. No hat, it'd mess up my hairdo (long, straight w/pouf on top and bangs like some of the older country singers used to wear). So...I guess you'd call me a KIKKer, but I'd prefer country girl. Hubby wears a white straw cowboy hat, but he is an area supervisor for a commercial electrical company, so the redneck look isn't out of place there...he's even got long hair that he keeps in a ponytail. And ugh...Gilley's...we don't do bars. We don't like the city, give us horses for neighbors any day.
Some of us think that passage of scripture refers to spiritual adornment, not actual clothing.
Soooooo, you're making the point, using Scripture, that God feels disrespected if we worship him while not wearing "wedding clothes"? As in what we call our "fancy clothes"?
Gosh, I guess I'd better quit worshiping Him unless I'm wearing the right outfit. "Honey, can I have some money please? I need a dress or God is going to be really really mad at me!" Something about that just doesn't ring true. hmmm
Then how do you explain this text?!
1 Cor. 5:12: For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Do you not judge those who are within the church?
I agree that we should not "judge" people who are wearing baseball caps in restaurants, etc. However, when it comes to the things of G-d, we are call upon, even commanded to exercise G-dly discernment.
1 Cor. 6:2-3: Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? If the world is judged by you, are you not competent to constitute the smallest law courts? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more matters of this life?
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