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Nice jeans. But should you really wear them to the opera?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/9/05 | Kim Campell

Posted on 03/09/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by qam1

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To: Chena
"I like to think that God wasn't up in the pulpit with the preacher, but was sitting beside the old man in the back pew. :)"

That's exactly where He was or even outside near the local bar or house of prostitution.

You should read this. It will change your life:

Who Cares

461 posted on 03/09/2005 9:58:21 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: longtermmemmory
I would STONGLY support theaters publishing a dress code which was suite and tie for evening performances. (if you want casual, go to a matine)

Theaters of course have that right. It really doesn't matter however whether you support it or not. In the end, it's the bottom line.

To use an example that would be easily visible, let's take Wal-Mart. Wal-Mart, like the theater, has the same right to mandate a coat and tie. However, it would hurt Wal-Mart's bottom line, so Wal-Mart will never require it.

The question is: How badly would it hurt the theater's bottom line?

462 posted on 03/09/2005 10:04:56 PM PST by Melas
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To: Modernman

Sometimes my wife and I (and even our son) accidentally color coordinate and it's just too weird for me.


463 posted on 03/09/2005 10:08:05 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Modernman

"A pair of khakis and an oxford shirt are not much more expensive than jeans and a t-shirt."

This is actually what I prefer to wear all of the time. Suits make me feel stuffy and I'm just not that into wearing blue jeans. To each his own.


464 posted on 03/09/2005 10:13:49 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: streetpreacher

That was a powerful read. I don't even know what to say right now. Thanks for sharing that.


465 posted on 03/09/2005 10:18:21 PM PST by Chena
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To: Modernman

I personally think we would should wear jeans in the Queen's presence, if not out of a lack of etiquette, to "conserve" good old Anglo-American British bashing.


466 posted on 03/09/2005 10:19:23 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: John O

Good old fashioned common sense never fails.


467 posted on 03/09/2005 10:23:31 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Melas

"I'll tell you what though. Not matter what anyone says, we get people into our church who you wouldn't normally get into a church. Hell, they got me in....."

Now if they can just work on that language. BTW, the word "hell" juxtaposed with "they got me in" is probably not a phrase you wanna' throw around too lightly.


468 posted on 03/09/2005 10:31:49 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Chena

Wasn't it though, and I didn't even expect you to read it right now? Every now and again, I go back and look at that article when I feel myself becoming cold or indifferent to the lost people around me.


469 posted on 03/09/2005 10:35:47 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: streetpreacher

Yes, it was what I call "good medicine". I'm going to save that article and share it with others.


470 posted on 03/09/2005 10:46:43 PM PST by Chena
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To: Eepsy

"When you have a denomination, though, with a theological tradition of dressing formally to honor God the King, it's disrespectful or ignorant to come into a worship service dressed in playclothes."

Jesus had a funny way of purposefully breaking the traditions of the religious institution of his day. Bringing a whip into the temple was probably not a very fashionable thing to do.

Remember reading when the disciples were talking about Jesus' resurrection and Thomas said, "Unless I see and touch the wounds, etc"? Wouldn't it be funny if on any given Sunday, Jesus were to walk through the wall of this formal church dressed in blue jeans and a t-shirt?

On a side note, if Jesus walked through the wall of any major Seminary on any given day, they would have to throw out half of their doctrinal statements and dissertations over the last 50 - 100 years.


471 posted on 03/09/2005 10:47:20 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: labard1

Wranglers and Lees just aren't as comfortable as Levis, IMO.


472 posted on 03/09/2005 10:48:35 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Melas

Sigh, I know.

It has been going on as a steady decline for years. Theaters cut corners with stage hands, and if they can park more buts in the seats by having the audience spend their money on tickets instead of fancy gowns and tuxedos they will welcome the green.

sigh.


473 posted on 03/09/2005 10:51:58 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Tamar1973

How does someone wearing jeans at church or anywhere else disrespect you? You take it that personal? Sounds like you're the one who is self-centered.


474 posted on 03/09/2005 10:54:00 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: nopardons

"The Bible doesn't have anything at all to say about what to wear to the opera,which does happen to be the actual topic of this thread."

You are absolutely correct on that point. I wasn't going to post more on this thread but I had a thought come to mind that I just have to share. I pictured Jesus, long hair, in a robe and sandals, going to an Opera...in the year 2005, in New York perhaps...with lovely people such as yourself in attendance, wearing your "appropriate attire", which in your opinion shows respect for those who attend such things, and respect for yourself of course. I wonder how you would feel when someone writes an article in the New York Times about, "Nice robe. But should you really wear a robe to the opera?". Maybe my parents weren't wrong when they told me not to judge others lest I find myself judging God, who can walk among us. Perhaps Jesus himself sat beside you in church last Sunday...perhaps he was that young man wearing jeans, or the older woman (such as myself) wearing slacks and a well-worn sweater. Think about it....PRAY about it....


475 posted on 03/09/2005 10:56:34 PM PST by Chena
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To: Tamar1973
Matthew 22:10-14: "Those slaves went out into the streets and gathered together all they found, both evil and good; and the wedding hall was filled with dinner guests. 11 "But when the king came in to look over the dinner guests, he saw a man there who was not dressed in wedding clothes, 12 and he said to him, `Friend, how did you come in here without wedding clothes?' And the man was speechless. 13 "Then the king said to the servants, `Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14 "For many are called, but few are chosen."

You know, I really don't think that even deserves a response. I don't know where to begin with such disdain for God's Holy Word by a professing Christian.

Are you really foolish enough to think that Scripture teaches what you are twisting beyond comprehension or are you willfully distorting and/or trifling with God's word especially on a matter that has more significance on what manner of clothes you wear: namely, True or False conversion?

You might want to look at the true meaning of that text and see if does not apply to you. Perhaps God is speaking it to you and you are distorting His communication..

476 posted on 03/09/2005 11:01:37 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Chena

I'm stunned by many of the comments on this thread. Conservatives want to blame Hollywood for destroying our nation's cultural values yet refuse to take any responsibility for their own actions in coarsening our society. Dumbing down our dress code is no different than dumbing down educational standards -- it's just an easy way to get through life.


477 posted on 03/09/2005 11:07:18 PM PST by Steve_Stifler
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To: Tamar1973
Once again, you are distorting the words of Paul to suit your own doctrinal biases. How about not proof-texting and quote the entire passage as to get the context?

2 Peter 3:14-16
15 Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
(from New International Version)

 

478 posted on 03/09/2005 11:09:00 PM PST by streetpreacher (The fires of hell burn hot and try to destroy me, I run to your will Oh God I know you’ll restore me)
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To: Chena
No,dear,YOU pray about it. You have judged a plenty on this thread,but then throw that "JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED", misused and over quoted line.

Jesus dressed appropriately for HIS time. Nowhere in the Bible is HE ever described as wearing what would be the equivalent of dungarees.John the Baptist was described as "the wild man",not Jesus! So why would he wear 2,000+ year old clothes to an opera today ?

And it seems that HE was pretty upset,at the wedding in Cana, that enough GOOD wine hadn't been purchased for the guest;which was the right and proper thing to do.

479 posted on 03/09/2005 11:09:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Steve_Stifler

"Dumbing down our dress code is no different than dumbing down educational standards -- it's just an easy way to get through life."

huh?


480 posted on 03/09/2005 11:11:50 PM PST by Chena
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