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Ex-Marine Says Public Version of Saddam Capture Fiction
WHAM.com ^ | 3.9.05 | United Press International

Posted on 03/09/2005 11:19:27 AM PST by denver larry

A former U.S. Marine who participated in capturing ousted Iraqi President Saddam Hussein said the public version of his capture was fabricated.

Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina Wednesday as saying Saddam was actually captured Friday, Dec. 12, 2003, and not the day after, as announced by the U.S. Army.

"I was among the 20-man unit, including eight of Arab descent, who searched for Saddam for three days in the area of Dour near Tikrit, and we found him in a modest home in a small village and not in a hole as announced," Abou Rabeh said.

"We captured him after fierce resistance during which a Marine of Sudanese origin was killed," he said.

He said Saddam himself fired at them with a gun from the window of a room on the second floor. Then they shouted at him in Arabic: "You have to surrender. ... There is no point in resisting."

"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon


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Hmmm, anyone heard about this?
1 posted on 03/09/2005 11:19:31 AM PST by denver larry
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To: denver larry

So what would the point be in the military fabricating the story that we all know? I mean, come on, wouldn't you rather hear that we got in an "Old West" style shootout and caught the bad guy? Isn't that better than, "Well we found him in a hole"???


2 posted on 03/09/2005 11:21:42 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: denver larry

Nope - don't believe it either. Why wait this long to come out with it? Just another weak attempt to discredit us.


3 posted on 03/09/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: denver larry

Nope - don't believe it either. Why wait this long to come out with it? Just another weak attempt to discredit us.


4 posted on 03/09/2005 11:22:18 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: denver larry

No and my brother, a cop met one of the capture tream members because he had carried a patch from his department with him and when he returned he visited them. Not true at all.

They grabbed him out of the hole and gave him greetings from W!


5 posted on 03/09/2005 11:22:31 AM PST by marlon
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To: denver larry
Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted...

No need to read any further.

6 posted on 03/09/2005 11:22:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

good logic


7 posted on 03/09/2005 11:22:48 AM PST by lilakblosm
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To: denver larry
"Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's capture in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well," Abou Rabeh said.

Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon

I have heard of this..dan rather is working on it as we speak..

8 posted on 03/09/2005 11:23:14 AM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: denver larry
First, I wouldn't be terribly surprised if we don't have the full, or accurate, Saddam-capture story. We're supposed to care... why?

Second, what is he talking about here: "Later on, a military production team fabricated the film of Saddam's capture in a hole". What "film of Saddam's capture"? Maybe I'm out of it but I never saw any such film.

9 posted on 03/09/2005 11:23:17 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: denver larry

Yeah right...

10 posted on 03/09/2005 11:23:42 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: denver larry
Welcome back, troll.

What was your previous screen name before it was banned?

11 posted on 03/09/2005 11:23:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: denver larry

Can't charges be brought up against this idiot?


12 posted on 03/09/2005 11:25:00 AM PST by bahblahbah
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To: denver larry

With his last name, and the fact that he is a "former" marine - I don't believe this. He seems to be trying to glorify saddam's description during capture.


13 posted on 03/09/2005 11:25:09 AM PST by NorthGA
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

relax, old sport


14 posted on 03/09/2005 11:26:28 AM PST by denver larry
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To: denver larry
Dear Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh:

Just a note to tell you I don't love you anymore.

You kiss and tell and you can consider our engagement off.

P/S ... I'm keeping the pop top ring you gave me, you cheap bastid.

15 posted on 03/09/2005 11:27:05 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: denver larry

Raw meat for the Kool Aid drinkers.


17 posted on 03/09/2005 11:28:35 AM PST by Search4Truth (When a man lies he murders some part of the world.)
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To: denver larry

Yeah...I heard the Elvis is working down at the Stop 'n Go and that Bigfoot was on the grassy knoll. Good grief. You can tell from the guy's name that he is a Lebanese muslim, if he actually exists.


18 posted on 03/09/2005 11:28:35 AM PST by Lekker 1 ("Airplanes are interesting toys, but of no military value"-Ferdinand Foch, French War College, 1911)
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To: denver larry

And this Arab expects us to believe that ALL the other soldiers involved in the capture are lying? Not going to happen.


19 posted on 03/09/2005 11:28:42 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: denver larry

Do you have anything better to waste bandwidth?


20 posted on 03/09/2005 11:28:58 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: denver larry

Sorry but the soldier who actually went down the hole and captured Saddam was on Fox News with his story - I do believe he was American born Iraqi or something like that - very handsome young man and very proud to tell the real story - this particular article is bs!!


21 posted on 03/09/2005 11:29:10 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: denver larry

Why the strong emphasis on the national "descent" of each purported soldier? US military guys don't do that. This does not sound credible.


22 posted on 03/09/2005 11:30:35 AM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: denver larry
I just made a call to an old friend that would know and there was no Nadim Abou Rabeh, Sgt. or any other enlisted rank, in the Corps during 2002, 2003, or 2004.

Another fine example of reporting from the Dan Rather/Eason Jordan School of Journalism. It took all of 11 minutes to negatively vette the story.

24 posted on 03/09/2005 11:31:14 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: denver larry

"in a hole, which was in fact a deserted well,"

That was the shallowest well ever.


25 posted on 03/09/2005 11:31:55 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: denver larry
Since Mar 4, 2005

Hmmm....I guess we will see if you last.

26 posted on 03/09/2005 11:31:59 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: An Old Marine
It took all of 11 minutes to negatively vette the story.

And your efforts are very much appreciated. I'm giving you the Not Rather award for that. ;)

27 posted on 03/09/2005 11:32:29 AM PST by Bahbah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The source's lead story for world news:

'Prince Charles wears albatross-feather cloak'

28 posted on 03/09/2005 11:32:30 AM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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To: denver larry

The DUmmies have a thread on this story and believed every word of it. More "proof" of massive right wing conspiracies I guess.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3245259&mesg_id=3245259&page=


29 posted on 03/09/2005 11:32:46 AM PST by Free and Armed
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
What is an US ex-soldier doing spreading FUD about the US mission?

That I can not answer. But attack him for being a weasel, not for being an Arab.

The fact that he identifies himself as Lebanesse and not American tells me what I need to know.

There is nothing in that article that indicates he identifies himself as being Lebanese. Perhaps, because of such an Arab-identifying name, the reporter asked what is heritage was. If it was 1945 and your name was Klaus Wilhelm Himmler, you would have probably been asked if you were of German descent too.

30 posted on 03/09/2005 11:34:39 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: BerniesFriend; broadsword; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ariamne; yer gonna put yer eye out; ...
Abou Rabeh was interviewed in Lebanon

Probably looking to hang out with his buddy Cpl. Wassef Ali Hassoun and discuss their future in the USMC.

31 posted on 03/09/2005 11:34:40 AM PST by Former Dodger ("The high-minded man must care more for the truth than for what people think." --Aristotle)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Another lying Muslim!


32 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:14 AM PST by rocksblues (Liberalism is a sickness not a political ideology)
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To: finallyatexan

"Sorry but the soldier who actually went down the hole and captured Saddam was on Fox News with his story - I do believe he was American born Iraqi or something like that"

That guy isn't in the military. He's an Iraqi American who volunteered to be a translator.


33 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:31 AM PST by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: denver larry

Doesn't pass the smell test.


34 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:31 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• Veni • Vidi • Vino • Visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My thoughts exactly.


35 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:41 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: An Old Marine

Excellent work.....


36 posted on 03/09/2005 11:37:50 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: Lady Heron

I looked at his other posts. He has one rather unkind to Rush. Maybe he got this story from DU


37 posted on 03/09/2005 11:38:56 AM PST by queenkathy
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To: denver larry

Some people have heard about it...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1359254/posts


38 posted on 03/09/2005 11:39:03 AM PST by Krodg
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To: denver larry
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39 posted on 03/09/2005 11:41:50 AM PST by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: denver larry
Fake Photos Here

See the link above for the actors the military used. See, you can tell it's all fake. /sarcasm off

40 posted on 03/09/2005 11:45:34 AM PST by isthisnickcool (This space for rent.)
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To: denver larry

WHAM.com??????


41 posted on 03/09/2005 11:46:27 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Any confirmation that this "individual" was ever in the Marine Corps? Considering all the other made-up stuff coming from the Arab world (see Memri.com for details), this could be a simple-minded attempt to rehabilitate Sadaam's image.


42 posted on 03/09/2005 11:47:16 AM PST by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: denver larry
Ex-Sgt. Nadim Abou Rabeh, of Lebanese descent, was quoted in the Saudi daily al-Medina

Consider the source! SH was a hero! Fought like a lion. Blah, blah, blah .....
43 posted on 03/09/2005 11:48:03 AM PST by schaketo (http://www.gp.org/ Convince progressives to join the Green Party – Divide and conquer)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
That I can not answer. But attack him for being a weasel, not for being an Arab.

I didn't "attack" him.

I discounted his credibility.

It's odd that you are bothered so much by that.

I bet you're one of those DU a**holes (you used the term first) who scream "Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib! Abu Ghraib!" and completely ignore the beheadings and suicide bombings occurring on an hourly basis.

Talk about selective outrage.

44 posted on 03/09/2005 11:51:15 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The name says it all, and he is full of camel sh-t.NSNR


45 posted on 03/09/2005 11:54:07 AM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: Wristpin

Thanks - It has been awhile since I saw the interview - I remembered his story and how intelligent and articulate he was (and handsome) but couldn't think back as to whether he was military or not - glad you cleared it up for me.


46 posted on 03/09/2005 11:54:49 AM PST by finallyatexan
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To: denver larry
it was the Army 4th ID that got him!!!
47 posted on 03/09/2005 11:55:40 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Chode

BINGO!!!

"When they captured Saddam outside Tikrit, 4th Infantry soldiers also found $750,000 of the Iraqi leader's stashed cash"


48 posted on 03/09/2005 11:57:02 AM PST by Ros42
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To: An Old Marine

I wasn't aware that our boys were in on that raid. All of the pics I've seen have soldiers with 4th ID patches on their arms.


49 posted on 03/09/2005 11:59:11 AM PST by dvldog03 ("For the Glory of God, and the Glory of our Corps...")
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To: An Old Marine
I just made a call to an old friend that would know and there was no Nadim Abou Rabeh, Sgt. or any other enlisted rank, in the Corps during 2002, 2003, or 2004.

Excellent.

Any way a person who doesn't have a "friend who would know" can independently verify this? Some DUmmies need to be slapped with it.

50 posted on 03/09/2005 12:01:09 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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