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Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act (Would allow free speech from the pulpits of America.)

Posted on 03/09/2005 6:46:00 PM PST by Happy2BMe

Returning freedom of speech to our nation's Houses of Worship.

HR 235 was introduced to liberate clergy from the muzzle imposed by the absolute ban on all speech that may be regarded as "political," and thereby enable them to speak out on all vital and moral and political questions of the day. It will free houses of worship from the fear and anxiety and uncertainty created by the threat that the IRS will impose financial penalties or revoke tax-exempt status altogether.

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TOPICS: Extended News; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: 109th; christianity; church; churchandstate; election; firstamendment; freespeech; hr235; irs; pastor; politics; pulpit; taxes; vote; walterjones
And hom many dozens and dozens of times during the height of the 2004 election campaign did we see John Kerry and Kompany bellowing their liberal sermons from pulpits all over this nation
1 posted on 03/09/2005 6:46:11 PM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe


I had no idea this was illegal?!


2 posted on 03/09/2005 6:51:58 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Happy2BMe


I'm outraged that this was even against the law. The audacity. Thank God for this bill.


3 posted on 03/09/2005 6:52:51 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: Salem; dennisw; SJackson; F15Eagle; FBD; ApesForEvolution; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; ...
FREEDOM OF SPEECH IN THE PULPIT - ping
4 posted on 03/09/2005 6:53:42 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: All
HR235

Call now - Ask Congress to return Freedom of Speech to America's churches by passing the language in HR 235.


5 posted on 03/09/2005 6:56:01 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
It will free houses of worship from the fear and anxiety and uncertainty created by the threat that the IRS will impose financial penalties or revoke tax-exempt status altogether.

It's not illegal, but it does threaten their tax-exempt status. I believe the problem is that the existing IRS rules are only enforced when a conservative political view is voiced. Liberals can use churches at will.

6 posted on 03/09/2005 6:57:23 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Aim small, miss small.)
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To: Happy2BMe
Its sermons from conservative denominations the Left wants folks to shut up about.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
7 posted on 03/09/2005 6:59:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Happy2BMe

Thanks for posting. This is a good time to call our representatives and urge them to support this bill.


8 posted on 03/09/2005 6:59:45 PM PST by arepublicifyoucankeepit
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To: SC Swamp Fox


And Planned Parenthood's tax exempt status is still intact!


9 posted on 03/09/2005 7:00:09 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
You are correct. Jerry Fallwell has been threatened many times of losing his tax exemption unless he backed off at the pulpit.

Yet Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton can spew anything they want, anywhere, anytime without skipping a liberal beat.

10 posted on 03/09/2005 7:00:58 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: SC Swamp Fox

All politics has a moral component that needs to be addressed by the churches. I am so tired of seeing churches marginalized by bullies in non elected cushy jobs.


11 posted on 03/09/2005 7:01:36 PM PST by mlmr (It is time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their country...)
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To: Happy2BMe

This bill is an ACLU dream come true.

If this passes, churches will have rights that other charities don't. The result will be declared discrimination against secular institutions like the Sierra Club and other charities with political axes to grind and a chance to get tax-deductible donations. The Johnson amendment is discrimination against religious organizations, but that doesn't count in today's Supreme Court. Today's Supreme Court, when it gets there, will overturn the law and make ALL charitable institutions able to speak on politics. And the ACLU will cash their reimbursement check to fund more leftist lawsuits. If you thought the left had a free pass before, wait until they get this through.

The objective should be to remove entirely ANY restrictions on freedom of speech by charities and religion, or to force the executive to enforce the laws as written on EVERYONE. Instead, here there is a dumbass political component that will get the law tossed so the Supremes can wipe their dirty hands with the Constitution again.


12 posted on 03/09/2005 7:29:24 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: LibertarianInExile

I'm against this bill. I remember during the election how angry everyone here was when the dims used the pulpit to preach the glories of sKerry. Church ain't about politicans, it's about God. If they wanna spew political crap, let 'em rent a hall.


13 posted on 03/09/2005 7:40:54 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Happy2BMe
If this passes, I predict an uptick in church attendance:

The Church of MoveOn.org
The Church of the Sierra Club
The Church of the DU
The Church of NARAL

14 posted on 03/09/2005 8:11:13 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: Onelifetogive
Those churches already are exempt and preach liberalism non-stop without penalty.

Try again.

15 posted on 03/09/2005 8:22:36 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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To: Onelifetogive
I agree. As time goes by, eventually God will be replaced in the church by politicans and leftist with agendas.

This will weaken our churches till they are churches in name only.

"Members, we are passing the plate for a donation to help elect John Kerry, please dig deeply, America needs a strong leader".

No thank you. Not the way a church should be. Isn't this a separation of church and state example?

16 posted on 03/09/2005 8:25:23 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: pbrown

Well said. I'm agin' it not because I think spewing political crap in church is something the government should do something about, but because the government should not be involved in any regulation of political speech, and I don't see why churches should get off easier than the CWA or NAACP or some other charity.

We agree as to church not being about politicians. I won't attend a church that tells me Jesus told me to vote for politician X. Jesus, to my knowledge, didn't say crap about the Roman government being evil or wrong. In fact, he seemed pretty laid back about the whole crucifixion thing, too. I don't want MY church involved in government. More power to those who want THEIRS involved.

But I just don't want government to have anything to do with where we can speak about politics, and this is basically saying that you can talk politics here--but you still can't talk politics there. The gag law should be done away with entirely, not selectively lifted as they're doing here. Or it should be left as is and enforced equally.


17 posted on 03/09/2005 8:30:02 PM PST by LibertarianInExile (The South will rise again? Hell, we ever get states' rights firmly back in place, the CSA has risen!)
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To: Onelifetogive

The FreeRepublic Cathedral will now host the "Hour of Power" with Pastor Jim Robinson.


18 posted on 03/09/2005 8:32:39 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: LibertarianInExile
I don't want government to grow larger. If it becomes involved in churches it will be gargantuan. It makes me very uneasy when preachers are talking politics to their parishioners instead of Gods word.
19 posted on 03/09/2005 8:36:30 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: LauraleeBraswell; Happy2BMe
I had no idea this was illegal?!

It's only illegal to promote conservative policies or Republican politicians or issues. DemocRATS get a free ride when they campaign at black churches or when black ministers promote DemocRAT politicians.

20 posted on 03/09/2005 8:43:05 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: LibertarianInExile; Happy2BMe; pbrown; Larry Lucido; Jim Robinson
Well said. I'm agin' it not because I think spewing political crap in church is something the government should do something about, but because the government should not be involved in any regulation of political speech, and I don't see why churches should get off easier than the CWA or NAACP or some other charity.

But there is already an unconstitutional law regulating that speech. We need to repeal that law!

21 posted on 03/09/2005 8:45:37 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: Happy2BMe
And hom many dozens and dozens of times during the height of the 2004 election campaign did we see John Kerry and Kompany bellowing their liberal sermons from pulpits all over this nation .....

Man, no KIDDING!!

As Grampa Dave says:

Mastah Kerry, the Devil has impregnated you with one of Je$$e
HyJack$on's love children! After you give birth to Je$$e's love
child, it will call you MaMa!



22 posted on 03/10/2005 2:25:04 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: All

The current restrictions on the Freedom of speech in churches was inserted into the IRS tax code in 1954 by none other than Senator Lyndon Johnson. It the time it was probably a good idea. Communist infiltration of the churches was a known fact. Now days it's a matter of leveling the playing field.


23 posted on 03/10/2005 2:48:29 AM PST by Navydog
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To: Paleo Conservative

#23 - LBJ


24 posted on 03/10/2005 5:04:08 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Government is not the solution to our problem, government *IS* the problem.)
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