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Steve Ruark for The New York Times
The Rev. Rich Cizik is a significant voice on the environment.

1 posted on 03/10/2005 12:13:31 AM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
If this guy tries to get us to sign the Kyoto treaty, he is being nutty.

Christians must be good stewards of the environment, but the proof behind it is too vague and contradictory.

I hope President Bush holds his ground. Growing our economy and technology will be the best way to improve any warming concerns.
2 posted on 03/10/2005 12:17:27 AM PST by ConservativeMind
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list.


4 posted on 03/10/2005 12:23:40 AM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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If these jackasses care that much about global worming, I wish they'd keep their fat yeps shut and quit generating so much hot air.

Hey guys, every hear of planet tectonics and ice ages? This old earth was changing long before we could impact it, and you nut-jobs should know that.
5 posted on 03/10/2005 12:23:47 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: neverdem
... The Rev. Ted Haggard ...
Who?

Who are these "evangelicals" that no one has ever heard of?

In other news, leading progressive activists Dr. James Dobson and Randall Terry swing influence to ban abortion.
6 posted on 03/10/2005 12:23:53 AM PST by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: neverdem

Might as well worship the sun then.

It's the likely cause...


8 posted on 03/10/2005 12:29:24 AM PST by DB ()
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To: neverdem

Will wonders never cease!!!!

 

The New York Times recognises Global Warming hype as religion, better late than never:

"We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion -- guilt-free at last!"
-- Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue)


9 posted on 03/10/2005 12:38:20 AM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: neverdem

Bet their scam for harnessing volcanos is a hoot.


10 posted on 03/10/2005 12:39:21 AM PST by Waco
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To: neverdem

If anyone believes that the NY Times in this story, at any other time, accurately represents evangelicals, I have a bridge to sell.


11 posted on 03/10/2005 12:54:03 AM PST by thoughtomator
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To: neverdem

Global warming good news for coral reefs: research
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA: Coral reefs around the world could expand in size by up to a third in response to increased ocean warming and the greenhouse effect, according to Australian scientists.

"Our analysis suggests that ocean warming will foster considerably faster future rates of coral reef growth that will eventually exceed pre-industrial rates by as much as 35 per cent by 2100," says Dr Ben McNeil, an oceanographer from the University of News South Wales.

"Our finding stands in stark contrast to previous predictions that coral reef growth will suffer large, potentially catastrophic, decreases in the future," says McNeil, who led and published the research in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, with colleagues Dr Richard Matear of the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization (CSIRO) and Dr David Barnes from the Australian Institute of Marine Science, Townsville.

Previous research has predicted a decline of between 20 and 60 percent in the size of coral reefs by 2100 relative to pre-industrial levels due to increasing CO2 levels in ocean surface waters. The new research suggests that present coral reef calcification rates are not in decline and are equivalent to late 19th century levels.

Coral reefs are built from calcium carbonate when red algae cement together a framework of coral skeletons and sediments. Seawater surface temperatures and the quantity of carbonate in seawater dictate their growth rate.

The Australian scientists have observed the calcification-temperature relationship at significant reef-building colonies around the world in the Indo-Pacific and at massive Porites reef colonies in Australia, Hawaii, Thailand, the Persian Gulf and New Ireland.

The predicted increase in the rate of coral reef calcification is most likely due to an enhancement in coral metabolism and/or increases in photosynthetic rates of red algae, according to the scientists. They used projections of ocean warming and CO2 concentration from a CSIRO climate model that accounts for atmosphere-ice and ocean carbon cycles.

"Our results show that increases in coral reef calcification associated with ocean warming outweigh decreases associated with increased atmospheric CO2", says CSIRO's Dr Richard Matear. "While initially showing a decrease in calcification up to 1964, ocean warming outweighs the CO2 effect and stimulates recovery of coral reef calcification. Our results represent an average over the entire coral reef community and it will be important to undertake more specific regional analysis of models to better understand future changes in regions such as Australia's Great Barrier Reef."

Dr David Barnes from the Australian Institute of Marine Science in Townsville says: "Coral reef calcification and the changes suggested in our research are separate to the adverse future effects of coral bleaching which is associated with the corals symbiotic micro-algae, and the significant impacts of human activities such as poor water quality, and unsustainable fishing on many of the worlds coral reefs."

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The Australian Research Council and the Australian Greenhouse Office Climate Change Program funded the research.


15 posted on 03/10/2005 2:03:48 AM PST by Always Right
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To: neverdem
" . . . a cause of poverty . . ."

High fuel bills is a greater cause. Over two bucks a gallon for propane is not only absurd, it's a sin. Let these 'men of faith' pray for less greed in the marketplace and stay the hell out of politics. Thank you very much.

17 posted on 03/10/2005 2:32:01 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: neverdem
How much evidence is there of current global warming? Some (far from conclusive, at that).

How much evidence is there of current anthropogenic global warming? NONE!

Our brothers at the NAE should know better than to believe everything they read in the newspapers.

29 posted on 03/10/2005 11:42:39 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: neverdem; abbi_normal_2; Ace2U; adam_az; Alamo-Girl; Alas; alfons; alphadog; AMDG&BVMH; amom; ...
Rights, farms, environment ping.
Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this list.
I don't get offended if you want to be removed.
31 posted on 03/10/2005 3:58:55 PM PST by farmfriend ( Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?!?)
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To: neverdem

False prophets derive their powers from the beguiled. The ranks of the beguiled are growing faster than ever before in history.


33 posted on 03/11/2005 9:03:11 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (When the left hates you, rejoice, for you are right!!!!!)
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