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No one will convince me that the NY TIMES did not know all along exactly what was going on in Iraq, right up to the invasion, relative to these elusive WMDs.

Once the press began hammering President Bush about the "absence of WMDs in Iraq" by June of 2003, I heard Major General Paul Vallely say on Fox News, several times, that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and all components, machinery and many of the personnel involved with the programs had been systematically trucked out of Iraq, through Syria and then buried in the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon. If Vallely knew it, the NY TIMES and the rest of the MSM also knew it.

So did the Democrat leadership. This makes their mantra of "Bush Lied" all the more perfidious.

1 posted on 03/13/2005 5:53:56 PM PST by CHARLITE
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Some interesting comments on this earlier thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1361906/posts


2 posted on 03/13/2005 6:02:41 PM PST by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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Was this buried in the classified section?


3 posted on 03/13/2005 6:03:21 PM PST by guitar Josh
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Calling the operation "sophisticated," Dr. Araji said the removal effort featured "cranes and the lorries, and they depleted the whole sites," adding, "They knew what they were doing."

Sophisticated? Ha! Easy as 123.

F'ing Slimes, will they correct themselves in their editorials? I'm going to hold my breath now.

4 posted on 03/13/2005 6:03:51 PM PST by demlosers (We win. They lose. USA number 1 ! IYAAYAS !)
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NYT - I stopped reading right there. Must be lies.


5 posted on 03/13/2005 6:07:32 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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If Vallely knew it, the NY TIMES and the rest of the MSM also knew it.

Either the stuff is just about to turn up and the Slimes is attempting a little CYA, or else they're getting ready to hammer President Bush and Donald Rumsfeld about letting the WMDs fall into terrorist hands by failing to keep them from leaving the country. Probably both.

So now the President is not an evil man who lied to get us into war, he's just even more incompetent than we originally thought.

6 posted on 03/13/2005 6:08:08 PM PST by CFC__VRWC
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Actually, I don't think the NY Times as changed their mind. Note that this article is about UN monitored WMD. The UN was aware of several stockpiles before the war and inspected them before they were kicked out. I think those stockpiles are what the article refers to.


7 posted on 03/13/2005 6:08:48 PM PST by Arkie2
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any links to the actual Slines article??


9 posted on 03/13/2005 6:09:56 PM PST by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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I don't quite follow what Newsmax is saying.. the quotes don't seem to support the headline


11 posted on 03/13/2005 6:12:31 PM PST by nj26
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This was simply the 'rest of the story' that never saw the 'media, 'light-of day'. It was part of the report.

The MSM got away with ignoring this; and it has passed the lips of every Demrat. The absence of WMD/s has made it -like every other Demrat lie - into MSM 'lore'; and our collective political history.

This misrepresentation was never seriously challenged by any Repub. . .even as Kerry Inc. repeated the abridged vesion of the truth, ad nauseum, throughout the presidential campaign.

Personally, blame Karl Rove and GW himself and the rest of the Repubs for not ever standing for the truth of this. . .except, occassionaly. . .and only, on one leg.

The NYT's report will pass; and the earlier, revised version of the truth will remain the core of Demrat offence. . .thanks to, too many Repubs; who perhaps thought, Rush could just tell the truth 'for' them. . .

13 posted on 03/13/2005 6:14:21 PM PST by cricket
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My WAG ( wild ass guess) is that the removal of this stuff was a USA operation, carried out to a tee. See, it was bushes fault again!!!


14 posted on 03/13/2005 6:14:24 PM PST by Waco
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bump


15 posted on 03/13/2005 6:15:37 PM PST by meema
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I don't know if you are familiar with what is called "The Bible Codes" or not, but it also has said the exact same thing as to where these WMD's went/are.


17 posted on 03/13/2005 6:16:12 PM PST by diverteach
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We attacked a nation without WMD - Bushs' fault!

We attacked a nation that had massive WMD but it was stolen as we got there -Bushes' fault!

We relyed on the lying scoundrels at the UN who told us that there was no WMD - Bushs' fault!

Neighboring rogue nations now have Iraq's WMD, and we're not going after it - Bushs' fault!

We haven't been able to suck up to Germany and France that transferred the WMD technology to Iraq for big Cash - Bushs' fault!

Afgan farmers who voted for democracy are still producing opium - Bushs' fault!

The six week old democracy in Iraq has not yet transferred all its power to whoever Iraq decides is going to be declared their leader - Bushs' fault!

Same old, same old, but now that after two years of the Slimes telling the world that there were no WMD, and everyone is on that bandwagon, the Slimes can now tell us that the Bush admin didn't lock-down all the WMD sites in the first few days of the war.

Bushs' fault!


20 posted on 03/13/2005 6:20:32 PM PST by aShepard
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Then why did Bush say, "We thought there were WMDS" during the debate with Kerry?


Political reasons?


22 posted on 03/13/2005 6:22:31 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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With Syria likely to be moving completely out of Lebanon, these WMD`s and the plans that got them to where they now reside will no doubt be made public, and any news media who towed the " Bush lied " liberal party line will soon have egg on their faces.

Looks like the NYTimes might be pulling their baby wipes out early. : )


25 posted on 03/13/2005 6:32:52 PM PST by Peace will be here soon
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I am so sick of hearing this "sophisticated equipment used to manufacture nuclear weapons, and other things".

They are talking about low tolerance milling machines. There are companies in every industrialized city in the world that will do this for you. They are listed in the yellow pages. Give them a spec for a dumb metal flange part thing you want, and they will mill it and FedEx you the part back.

Everyone wants low tolerance parts (.1 mm, or whatever) because that makes the thing you are building generally have a higher quality (golf cart, sewing machine, washing machine, etc). Any metal shop would love to have one of these $1 million machines for a black market $50,000; which is why they were looted!

Read the New York Times article carefully. They have no evidence whatsoever that the stolen devices were not some milling machines and screwdrivers - THINGS USED TO PRODUCE NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!??!!!!

I can just imagine these NYT reporters yelling this stuff while they write the article.


27 posted on 03/13/2005 7:01:27 PM PST by captainblacksmith
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Anyone doubt this is why Syria pulled tneir troops in Lebanon back to the Bekka Valley, and no further?

At least, until they can remove what they hid there to a new safe haven?


31 posted on 03/13/2005 7:12:36 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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So, this knocks the whole "Bush lied" meme into a cocked hat?

Oh, never mind.

34 posted on 03/13/2005 7:22:20 PM PST by white trash redneck (Everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9-11-01.)
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Recently, it has been stated by several people in the admin that Russia moved the WMD out of Iraq into Syria.

There was no balking by Russia. I do believe - when Dr. Rice went to Russia she told Putin - in Russian - we are going to reveal that you moved the WMD.

I agree - the NYT sources knew - but it didn't fit their agenda.


39 posted on 03/13/2005 8:14:40 PM PST by The Final Harvest (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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Check this link out for some interesting reading. http://www.worldthreats.com/middle_east/Syria.htm

All of this would explain why syria is pulling back to the bekka to wait and see what happens. Still far to early to know if syria will be shoved out of all of Lebanon.


44 posted on 03/13/2005 8:39:10 PM PST by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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