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On the 'sin' of sending kids to public school
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 7, 2005

Posted on 03/14/2005 2:54:06 AM PST by JohnHuang2

On the 'sin' of sending kids to public school Author shares harsh campus realities, urges parents to pull children Posted: February 7, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

The man who helped push the issue of public education onto the national agenda of the Southern Baptist Convention has written a new book that blows the lid off government schools, showing parents the kind of worldview and values their children are influenced by 180 days a year.

Bruce Shortt, author of "The Harsh Truth About Public Schools," presents myriad reasons why government institutions are failing America's children and thumbing their noses at parents with a religious worldview.

As WorldNetDaily reported, last year Shortt helped spearhead an unsuccessful effort to have the Southern Baptist Convention pass a resolution urging its members to remove their children from public school.

In "The Harsh Truth About Public Schools," Shortt, writing from a biblical perspective, presents rigorous research about the agenda and effect of government schooling on the nation's young people.

Shortt especially wants to educate Christian parents, millions of whom send their kids off to public school every day.

"Contrary to what many Christians have been led to believe, there is no such thing as a 'neutral' education," Shortt writes. "All education is religious and conveys a worldview, and there is no more important decision that we make as parents than how we educate our children."

Continues Shortt: "Unfortunately, Christian parents allow an aggressively anti-Christian institution to form the minds of their children, and the fruit of that choice is bitter. The overwhelming majority of children from evangelical families leave the church within two years after they graduate from high school; only 9 percent of evangelical teens believe that there is any such thing as absolute moral truth; and, our children are being forcibly indoctrinated to believe that homosexual behavior is acceptable."

While Shortt wants Christian parents who use the government schools to read the book, he also encourages homeschooling parents to read it.

"Homeschool parents must have this book to minister to their Christian friends and neighbors, pastors and skeptical relatives. Our government-school habit is sowing the wind, and unless Christians turn from this gross sin we will reap a whirlwind that is unimaginable," Shortt says.

In the book, Shortt documents the pitfalls of public schools, saying the anti-Christian thrust of the governmental school system produces inevitable results: "moral relativism (no fixed standards), academic dumbing down, far-left programs, near absence of discipline and the persistent but pitiable rationalizations offered by government education professionals."

Shortt also urges pastors to read the book so they might "understand why the church can no longer abdicate its historic role in the education of our children."

Says Short: "'The Harsh Truth About Public Schools' makes it clear why no Christian child should be left behind in government schools. Our Christian children are perishing because parents and pastors lack knowledge. The information in this book exposes the 'salt and light' and the 'our schools are different' rationalizations for educating Christian children in pagan schools for the contemptible falsehoods they are.

"Any parent or pastor who genuinely desires to be faithful in the education of Christian children needs to find out what the public schools are actually doing, rather than relying on what they are saying they are doing or on memories of the public schools as they may have existed 10, 20 or 30 years ago."

Shortt makes his argument by citing a school district in Texas.

"There is no public school district in the country that has more Christians in the community or in the schools than that of Plano, Texas," he said. "In fact, the largest and most powerful church in the state of Texas, Prestonwood Baptist, is located in Plano. Yet, it took a court order to force the Plano schools to allow Christian school children to privately give classmates Christmas gifts that had a Christian message. Moreover, the school district had even prohibited schoolchildren from bringing red and green napkins to the school 'holiday' parties for fear the colors might remind someone of Christmas.

"The truth is that the public school policy and curriculum decisions that matter to Christians are not made locally. They are largely dictated by federal and state court decisions, federal and state legislation and regulations, and the teachers' union and other professional associations connected with the public schools."

But what about reforming the public schools? Isn't that a solution?

Responds Shortt: "Public schools cannot be reformed to provide a Christian education, and the evidence is overwhelming that even conventional secular reforms to reinstate traditional academic and moral standards will continue to fail. But even if you think that we should nevertheless try to reinstate traditional academic and moral standards in the schools, taking your children out is the most effective thing you can do to help the children whose parents have left them behind in the public schools. Only the threat of a collapse of the entire public school system offers even the remotest prospect of positive change. Traditional reform efforts are a waste of time.

"Even if you believe that there is nothing wrong with institutionalizing Christian children in public schools, you need to read this book because you may be wrong. Remember, you only get one chance to educate your children. There are no do-overs."


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1 posted on 03/14/2005 2:54:06 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: kenth; CatoRenasci; Marie; PureSolace; Congressman Billybob; P.O.E.; cupcakes; Amelia; Diana; ...

2 posted on 03/14/2005 3:26:49 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: Born Conservative; JohnHuang2

Call me old-fashioned, but I sometimes ponder the morality of funding schools with state gambling revenues (casinos & lottery).


3 posted on 03/14/2005 3:45:38 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.
Call me old-fashioned, but I sometimes ponder the morality of funding schools with state gambling revenues (casinos & lottery).

If you are, you are not alone. I view any state-sponsored vice as a great evil.

We have that nonsense in Georgia, and ( aside from the moral components, or the endless series of people I see desperate to "win" at Lotto ) everytime I see a billboard crowing "XXX Million in the Ga. Lottery" I think, "great, that's XXX Million less people have to spend on themselves and their families."

To say nothing of it being a welfare system for political hacks and appointees. Perpetuating itself on greed and misery, with other people's money. For the Chillun... of course!

4 posted on 03/14/2005 3:58:19 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: JohnHuang2

Oh, geez. Here we go again with the evils of public school. Is it any wonder I avoid that site 99% of the time.


5 posted on 03/14/2005 4:30:24 AM PST by mtbopfuyn
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To: Born Conservative

I admire Mr. Shortt's ability to see public schools as they are--destructive of moral and religious principles. I think there is a connection between the public school atmosphere and the high rate of suicide among teenagers and college students. Most of what they learn is trash based on false principles. They do not learn skills that are useful for making a living. They learn a bunch of theories and old socialist ideas. They should be taught how to save their money and invest in mutual funds, so they can have a nestegg when they're old and not have to rely on the dying social security. They should learn to speak and write the English language well and to verbalize correct principles, not goobley-gook. Don't know when American parents are going to wake up and stop being lazy about the kids' education.


6 posted on 03/14/2005 4:34:26 AM PST by dimmer-rats stealvotes
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To: JohnHuang2

Homeschooling PING!


7 posted on 03/14/2005 4:37:45 AM PST by sr4402
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To: backhoe

As if to add injury to insult, the hacks then play a shell game with the money. If on no other evidence than the fact that they cry there's not enough money for schools. If that's the case, then where are all these gambling revenues going?


8 posted on 03/14/2005 4:46:49 AM PST by P.O.E.
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To: P.O.E.
As if to add injury to insult, the hacks then play a shell game with the money. If on no other evidence than the fact that they cry there's not enough money for schools. If that's the case, then where are all these gambling revenues going?

Here it seems to be a mystery- the lootery ( dam, a typo, but a true one! ) takes in record-breaking revenues with each succeeding year, but every year, the local school board whines about needing more money. And more property taxes. And new schools.

I really suspect it's like the tobacco settlements, or the UN oil-for-food... a bottomless cesspool of kickbacks, bribes, corruption, and "make-work" jobs for friends connected with the system.

9 posted on 03/14/2005 4:53:46 AM PST by backhoe (-30-)
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To: JohnHuang2

Ping


10 posted on 03/14/2005 4:57:27 AM PST by mek1959
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To: P.O.E.
Call me old-fashioned, but I sometimes ponder the morality of funding schools with state gambling revenues (casinos & lottery).

You must live in Pennsylvania...

11 posted on 03/14/2005 5:01:43 AM PST by Born Conservative ("Mr. Chamberlain loves the working man, he loves to see him work" - Winston Churchill)
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To: mtbopfuyn

So I guess you think public school in its current format is just fine?


12 posted on 03/14/2005 5:12:38 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: JohnHuang2

I suppose the alternative is to let some evangelical nut educate your kids? No thanks.


13 posted on 03/14/2005 5:18:43 AM PST by pickemuphere (Leviticus 13:3)
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To: JohnHuang2

One would reason that with the up side down pyramid and with fewer and fewer children being born in the U.S. that the cost of public education would go down, however, the reality is just the opposite, it keeps getting higher even with more and more students being home schooled.


14 posted on 03/14/2005 5:22:09 AM PST by AIC
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To: Sidebar Moderator

This needs moved out of Front Page News. The article -- actually, it's an ad for the book -- is over a month old. You'd think the poster would know better.


15 posted on 03/14/2005 5:24:45 AM PST by pickemuphere (Leviticus 13:3)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Sending your children to government schools is akin to child abuse.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16 posted on 03/14/2005 5:43:53 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: pickemuphere

Well if there is a choice I would take the Evangelical nut as opposed to the Liberal Nut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


17 posted on 03/14/2005 5:46:03 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mtbopfuyn

Why don't you go ahead and eliminate that 1% so we don't have to be bothered skipping over your less than enlightening comments?


18 posted on 03/14/2005 5:49:50 AM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: mariabush

The term "child abuse" gets bandied about far too much as to make it's use nearly meaningless.


19 posted on 03/14/2005 5:58:21 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz

Sending your child to a government school in Memphis, Tenn. gives new meaning to "child abuse".


20 posted on 03/14/2005 6:02:02 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: mariabush

I send my child to public school in rural Virginia, and I am far, far from a child abuser and resent the implication that I am.


21 posted on 03/14/2005 6:04:57 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz
I never said that you personally was a child abuser, this is my personal opinion and I am entitled to voice it. Good bye and have a good day!!!!!
22 posted on 03/14/2005 6:08:59 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Gabz
I'm not a child abuser either. Extreme judgment. It was an unkind to say.
23 posted on 03/14/2005 6:24:24 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (To all our Men and Woman in Uniform, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You!)
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To: GodBlessUSA

Thank you.

While I agree everyone is entitled to their opinion - sweeping broad brush statements are not conducive to intelligent discourse.

I am the first to admit there are problems within the system, hwoever not all public schools are the dens of evil some wish others to believe.


24 posted on 03/14/2005 6:31:35 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz
"The term "child abuse" gets bandied about far too much as to make it's use nearly meaningless."

When everything is abuse, nothing is abuse. I agree. There's quite few words that have lost their true meaning due to "abuse" of their usage.

I live in the Plano area and the examples cited are an over simplification of what happened. When the issue came to light the dipwad that thought they were avoiding a controversy (atheist parents threatening to sue, whatever) quickly backed down.

Perhaps if people would quit the righteous indignation about everything a school tries to accomplish and stop the lawsuits costs wouldn't continue to go up.

Christians protest every other book used (let's tie everyone up with the evolution-creation debate), blacks think Tom Sawyer is racist, atheists demand Bibles be removed. If the public schools were to address moral/ethics issues some would be suing and outraged because that's a parents job. yadda yadda yadda
25 posted on 03/14/2005 6:33:31 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: mariabush

"I never said that you personally was a child abuser, this is my personal opinion"

Judge not, least yee be judged?


26 posted on 03/14/2005 6:36:10 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: JohnHuang2

Ping for later reading.


27 posted on 03/14/2005 6:37:20 AM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: Gabz

"however not all public schools are the dens of evil some wish others to believe."

I think the 20 or so ladies that I know, that attended a Catholic college, who are still devout Catholics and are public school teachers would probably agree.

Of course, Catholics aren't seen as Christian by some. :-)


28 posted on 03/14/2005 6:44:12 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: pickemuphere
Not at all. One could home school or shoose a private school that is not affiliated with the SBLC.

Unless you mean that anyone not in the public school system is an "evangelical nut"---but I assume you are smarter than that.

29 posted on 03/14/2005 6:44:55 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: Smartaleck

I didn't attend Catholic College, but did spend 12 years in Catholic Schools, and understand exactly what you mean that some do not believe Catholics are Christians.

No one system is or can be perfect, public, private, Christian, non-Christian, homeschool, etc. We all have to make our own choices as to what we believe is best for our families. Others may not agree with our decisions, but it is not up to others to decide what is best for someone else.


30 posted on 03/14/2005 6:50:13 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz
Absolutely, we are not ignorant of the problems in our schools. Statements like that one solves nothing. I have admiration and respect for those who Home School. What they do is remarkable. I believe this statement is not the consensus of opinion.

Actually, I have a teacher to deal with today regarding her teaching of liberal policy. Not looking forward to it but it has to be addressed. I will be kind but must hold my ground.

In the past, I have had the privilege to work with some wonderful people fighting some of the problems of our district here. I'm happy to see that people are working hard to fight the problems that exist here in my district. It's making a difference.

31 posted on 03/14/2005 6:55:28 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (To all our Men and Woman in Uniform, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You!)
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes

One thing I've noticed is we have the constitution seperating religion and the federal government. Which I believe makes sense in the context of the limited government it was designed to be.

But with the government taking over nearly every aspect of our lives, including the most important like educating the next generation.. Seperating the government and religion effectively enforces secularism on the society.


32 posted on 03/14/2005 6:58:43 AM PST by ran15
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To: GodBlessUSA

I'm with you, I have all the respect in the world for Home Schoolers.

What I like most about the district I am in is that they not only encourage parental participation, they practically demand it........and it's obvious parents do participate. I have yet to be called as a volunteer for something, or chaperone for a field trip.........and my name is on both lists - the school tends to have more volunteers than it needs.


33 posted on 03/14/2005 7:04:14 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz

"Others may not agree with our decisions, but it is not up to others to decide what is best for someone else."

I find it most ironic that so many who profess to be Christians are the first to judge others and call people names rather than address the issues....That so many don't want their kids "indoctrinated" by public schools are more than willing to indoctrinate others in what they believe and their way is the only way.

Everyone else is an idiot and, in the current topic, a child abuser!


34 posted on 03/14/2005 7:26:31 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: Smartaleck

Just the title of this article is inflammatory, IMO.

I'm a "sinner" because my child attends public school and I do not agree with wholesale abandonment of the system?


35 posted on 03/14/2005 7:31:21 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz
That's great you have such involved parents in the school district! That makes all the difference in the children’s lives. Everyone knows what is going on at school too! All districts are not the same. We have to work on making ours like yours.

The district we're in now is ok. It does make me extremely frustrated at times. There are problems. As I said though, there are people working very hard on change and that is so positive to see. My kids, Thank God, are doing very well. We are starting to look at colleges for my oldest. Where the heck the time went is my big question. :)
36 posted on 03/14/2005 7:41:49 AM PST by GodBlessUSA (To all our Men and Woman in Uniform, past, present and future, God Bless You and Thank You!)
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To: Gabz

"I'm a "sinner" because my child attends public school and I do not agree with wholesale abandonment of the system?"

That's the implication which some would deny when confronted. :-)


37 posted on 03/14/2005 7:44:51 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: dimmer-rats stealvotes

I don't think the problem of suicide is public schools. IT has more to do with the overall culture. My son attended a Christian School during his attendance, two students committed suicide. Christian School attendees. These are handpicked students. Christian (supposedly) homes. Christian values. Public Schools don't have that luxury to handpick who attends.


38 posted on 03/14/2005 7:49:24 AM PST by joesbucks
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To: GodBlessUSA

We spent a long time researching all avenues of education for our daughter...........including moving, which we did. I realize that is not something everyone is capable of doing. We would have been moving had we not had a child that we needed to consider the education of, but because we do, that became the top priority for where we would be moving.

I have no intention of getting complacent, and will continue to pay attention and participate, but it is a nice feeling to know I am not constantly banging my head against a wall. It is also comforting to know that the school is not being run by godless heathens, as was again shown to me a few weeks back at a morning parent function, when we were all asked to add someone to our prayer lists and circles.......and during morning announcements, the children were asked the same thing.


I'm glad your kids are doing well, much of that is always going to come from their home life, regardless of what type of school they attend. I have a ways to go before I start looking toward college, my daughter is only in 1st grade....but I do (sort of) understand your question about the time :)


39 posted on 03/14/2005 8:10:45 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Smartaleck

Of course that is the implication, and of course it will be denied, with the standard "I wasn't talking about you specifically" type whitewash.


40 posted on 03/14/2005 8:13:41 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: mariabush

"I never said that you personally was a child abuser..."

Obviously abused as a child......


41 posted on 03/14/2005 8:21:35 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: JohnHuang2
Luke 10:25-28

On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”

“What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”

He answered: “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’”

“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”

Matthew 18:6

But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.


42 posted on 03/14/2005 8:31:07 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: RFEngineer

1) the people i know who went to catholic school were beaten by nuns. on the other hand, they were better educated, academically, maybe not socially.
2) there are very good, historically proven reason for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
3) does anyone have any constructive ideas instead of name-calling and saying what's wrong with everything?

.......i am curious, if you could have it YOUR way, what would that be?
because i don't think that we all agree. in a public forum , like schools, we must compromise and find a common ground.
some things, like religion, are personal choices. probably the biggest differences i can think of are evolution vs. creationism and forms of sex eduacation and health. i can understand the dilema if your religion teaches something and your school teaches something else, what else do you think the "liberal" education system is teaching your children that you don't agree with?


43 posted on 03/14/2005 8:39:19 AM PST by felicity1
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To: Gabz
The term "child abuse" gets bandied about far too much as to make it's use nearly meaningless.

Matthew 10:28

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Education that purports to prepare children for life, yet neglects the very purpose of life (knowing, loving and serving God) and jeopardizes a child's salvation, is far worse than any kind of physical abuse.
44 posted on 03/14/2005 8:42:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: felicity1

"1) the people i know who went to catholic school were beaten by nuns."

Spare the rod and spoil the child is not just the province of Nuns. "Beaten"? Perhaps a bit of hyperbole?


45 posted on 03/14/2005 8:49:42 AM PST by Smartaleck
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To: felicity1
"in a public forum , like schools, we must compromise and find a common ground."

Show me where public schools are compromising vis-a-vis issues that never used to get them so worked up....like Christmas (AKA "Winter Holiday")

46 posted on 03/14/2005 8:51:40 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: Aquinasfan

Who are you to judge how my child is being educated? You know nothing of me, my family, my child or her education, or our religious beliefs........as I do not wear them on my sleeve nor force them upon others.


47 posted on 03/14/2005 8:56:16 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Sam's Army

Christmas and Easter are celebrated in the public school my daughter attends.....not Winter or Spring Holiday.


48 posted on 03/14/2005 8:58:44 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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To: Gabz

Rare to be sure. Wait till someone gets "offended".


49 posted on 03/14/2005 9:04:06 AM PST by Sam's Army (No witty taglines currently come to mind)
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To: Sam's Army

I realize it is rare...........but I'm not so sure anyone is going to be getting offended anytime soon.


50 posted on 03/14/2005 9:10:07 AM PST by Gabz (Wanna join my tag team?)
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