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A Family Tree in Every Gene [Races DO Exist: NYT]
NY Times Op-Ed Page ^
| March 14, 2005
| ARMAND MARIE LEROI
Posted on 03/14/2005 3:10:30 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: cyborg
"Agreed. I see the future of medicine being very custom tailored to a person's genetic profile." Not necessarily to the "person's" genetic profile. The new cancer treatment using the euphemistically named "liquid radiation" is a case in point. Once a tumor is extracted, it is "gene-sequenced" sufficiently to identify genetic markers specific to the tumor, but NOT to the patients normal cells. An aritificial antibody is then synthesized that will bond to those markers, and attached to a chelating agent that that will bond to a radioactive isotope.
At treatment time, they attach the short-lived radioisotope to the antibody/chelant, and inject it into the body. The antibody specifically bonds to any and all other tumors that may have metastesized from the main tumor, and "cook them to death" with radiation.
Frippin' INCREDIBLE!!!
To: Smartaleck
The thing with racial preferences is a very sociological concept of race, plus your example introduces poor vs. rich classism. That's why I am very skeptical when it comes to science investigating race. The history of science and racial biology isn't that great.
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:14:39 AM PST
by
cyborg
To: Pharmboy
Last I knew, the genetic variation between members of the same race was greater than between members of different races. If that's indeed the case, so much for the concept of race.
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:17:50 AM PST
by
mewzilla
(Has CBS retracted the story yet?)
To: aculeus
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:18:08 AM PST
by
general_re
("Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith, but in doubt." - Reinhold Niebuhr)
To: cyborg
"The thing with racial preferences is a very sociological concept of race,"
It can be used to right a wrong but also abused. This is true of race, religion, gender and now we have sexual orientation.
The fun of using such begins when these classifications overlap and have conflicting propositions.
For example requiring a Christian church that abhors homosexuals to hire them. =8-O
To: Smartaleck
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:25:21 AM PST
by
cyborg
To: Pharmboy
There is a final reason race matters. It gives us reason - if there were not reason enough already - to value and protect some of the world's most obscure and marginalized people. What a reductionist, condescending phrase this is upon repeated reading.
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:35:07 AM PST
by
Old Professer
(A man's conscience is like his garden, it is his and his alone to tend.)
To: Old Professer
The NYT takes up the white man's burden.
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posted on
03/14/2005 9:45:35 AM PST
by
js1138
To: Smartaleck
"but it will be hundreds of years before humanity is sufficiently genetically "homogenized" to be considered a single race, if ever." But, according to current "E" theory, didn't HomoSapiens start from a few individuals? ToE says we SHOULD be DIFFERENT by now!
We can NEVER become "homogenized", but more and more diverse!
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posted on
03/14/2005 10:15:45 AM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
HomoSapiens are still homo sapiens unless of course some are asses? There are many in Congress who are suspect too!
To: Wonder Warthog
Frippin' INCREDIBLE!!!
I agree! Aren't these the most interesting times to be living.
Can't wait for the tooth buds and other health care improvements.
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posted on
03/14/2005 11:32:28 AM PST
by
BabsC
To: Pharmboy
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posted on
03/14/2005 11:59:39 AM PST
by
blam
To: Elsie
"But, according to current "E" theory, didn't HomoSapiens start from a few individuals? ToE says we SHOULD be DIFFERENT by now!" No, Elsie, evolution requires ISOLATED POPULATIONS for one sub-population to become different from another. The sole reason for today's convergence is because the various sub-famiilies of the human race are no longer isolated from on another.
To: Wonder Warthog
No, Elsie, evolution requires ISOLATED POPULATIONS for one sub-population to become different from another. Therefore, WW, there MUST have been a POPULATION from which the SUB-populations sprang.
From WHERE did it come???
Likewise, WHY would it split up?
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posted on
03/14/2005 12:20:34 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: general_re
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posted on
03/14/2005 12:26:20 PM PST
by
aculeus
(Ceci n'est pas une tag line.)
To: Elsie
"From WHERE did it come???" Africa.
"Likewise, WHY would it split up?"
Rate of mutation and evolution faster than rate of migration due to geographical barriers.
To: Pharmboy
>>>>>>Nice to see the Times trying to undo the pseudo-science about race that they have been promulgating for so many years.
Agreed!
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posted on
03/14/2005 1:13:54 PM PST
by
Thorin
("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
To: Wonder Warthog
DNA is exactly what says I'm right. We are one race and we have many ethnicities which are shifting conventions at best. We all have bits of virtually every ethnicity out there and there is not a person alive who can vouch for his great, great grandmothers morals. No one knows his own ethnic make up with certainty. One might present characteristics of a caucasian Eurpoean but that appearance doesn't tell the whole story by a long shot. By what standard would a "Race" exist?
It's been centuries since populations were sufficiently isolated in any significant numbers to be called "ethnically pure" whatever that might mean.
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posted on
03/14/2005 1:43:46 PM PST
by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
To: Elsie
interesting, and a map of the history of our migration.
To: muir_redwoods
"It's been centuries since populations were sufficiently isolated in any significant numbers to be called "ethnically pure" whatever that might mean.", No, DNA is what proves you wrong. A single race would be genetically more homogeneous as compared to the wide variance of humanity today.
We are on our way to that single-race state, but we are a LONG way from reaching it.
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