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The man behind Rathergate
MSNBC ^ | March 13, 2005 | Rachel Tobin Ramos

Posted on 03/14/2005 7:41:30 AM PST by KeyesPlease

Before Dan Rather signed off March 9 after 24 years as a news anchor for CBS, conservative "netizens" already were cheering the man they believe led to the tidal wave of criticism that forced Rather to leave his post a year early: Atlanta attorney Harry W. MacDougald.

MacDougald, 46, who has been with Atlanta's Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice PLLC since 2002, was the blogger "Buckhead" who first started a cascade of criticism about a report Rather aired Sept. 8 on CBS's "60 Minutes II" about President George W. Bush's Air National Guard service.

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"In his blog on FreeRepublic.com..."

???...they still don't know the difference.

1 posted on 03/14/2005 7:41:31 AM PST by KeyesPlease
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To: KeyesPlease

FR is the blog-center of the universe.


2 posted on 03/14/2005 7:43:04 AM PST by pissant
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To: KeyesPlease

MSNBC demonstrates the MSM is populated by uneducated buffoon with no inteligence. Those people have college degrees? Seriously it is beccoming more and more apparent the only difference between a four year degree and a diploma mill degree is the amount of inebreation during the obtaining.

MSNBC can not tell the diffence between a blog and a forum or WORSE they think the public is too stupid to get it. PERHAPS MSNBC is just to lazy to make the distiction.

Either way it only demonstrates in an obvious way that the MSM is incompetent when it comes to dispensing information.


3 posted on 03/14/2005 7:45:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: KeyesPlease

4 posted on 03/14/2005 7:46:59 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: KeyesPlease

These media nitwits still can't figure out the difference between a blog and a web forum.

Of course, confusing "journalists" about this is also part of the VRWC.


5 posted on 03/14/2005 7:51:11 AM PST by MisterRepublican (I DEMAND THAT FOX NEWS GET JENNIFER ECCLESTON BACK FROM NBC!)
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To: KeyesPlease

I still think Dan Rather is great American," Smith added. Some thought John Wilkes Booth a great American, also.


6 posted on 03/14/2005 7:52:04 AM PST by Safetgiver (Mud slung is ground lost.)
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To: pissant

Correct that.......FREE REPUBLIC IS THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE.


7 posted on 03/14/2005 7:52:53 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Buckhead

Hey Buckhead, T minus 15 minutes and counting...

: )


8 posted on 03/14/2005 7:53:07 AM PST by IncPen ( The Problem with Communism (liberalism) is that people like to own stuff - Frank Zappa)
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To: longtermmemmory

The people who populate the MSM are products of the Schools of Journalism at the various colleges and universities. These schools are teaching a trade, they are not really educating them. People who have a BS or BA with a diverse mixture of English, Science, History, Art, and Music can outhink these pinheads any day of the week. A good analogy is the results of having our children taught by people with degrees in education.


9 posted on 03/14/2005 7:54:30 AM PST by tom paine 2
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To: OldFriend

I stand corrected.


10 posted on 03/14/2005 7:54:51 AM PST by pissant
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To: SkyPilot

Dan Rather is a vile creature and he knows it .


11 posted on 03/14/2005 7:54:54 AM PST by unkus
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To: KeyesPlease; Buckhead
A lawyer who is "smart as a whip"? Who'd a thunk it? Buckhead himself makes a key point that MSNBC misses, perhaps deliberately. What he was the first to discover, the typeface reality, was later confirmed chapter and verse by others. Why did many people, not just Buckhead, realize the evidence that the Rather documents were forgeries? For the obvious reason that they ARE forgeries.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "NASCAR Lessons for Democrats"

12 posted on 03/14/2005 7:57:45 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (Proud to be a FORMER member of the Bar of the US Supreme Court since July, 2004.)
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To: KeyesPlease
This is a wonderful story about a man dedicated to the truth.

In other words, a true American.

13 posted on 03/14/2005 7:58:05 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: longtermmemmory
MSNBC can not tell the diffence between a blog and a forum or WORSE they think the public is too stupid to get it. PERHAPS MSNBC is just to lazy to make the distiction.

No kidding! It's like calling MSNBC a newspapper, or a sitcom or something.

But hey, look at it this way, they still have no clue or understanding of this Internet thingy, how it works, how it is structured, etc. As long as they are that clueless, the web forums like FR, and individual BLOGS will continue to run circles around the fools.

14 posted on 03/14/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by GaltMeister (The only time a Democrat should be allowed in the White House is to visit the President.)
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To: MisterRepublican

Actually I think it goes back to the MSM Mediots 1970's thinking that the news is what they say it is. The news is what they say it is.

FR is a blog because they don't have the desire or capacity to get it.

Remeber these are reporters who say "democratic" party instead of democrat party as an intentional means of propaganda.

Blog can be insulte as a single kook writing. A forum is We The People writing.


15 posted on 03/14/2005 7:59:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: GaltMeister

I think they do understand how it works. I am CERTAIN they have checked out running contemporaneous threads which consistently rip them appart for slopy and illogical writing.


16 posted on 03/14/2005 8:00:34 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: KeyesPlease
At least they linked it, though that probably means the Viking Kitties need to be on high alert.

-Eric

17 posted on 03/14/2005 8:02:50 AM PST by E Rocc
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To: GaltMeister

"It's like calling MSNBC a newspapper, or a sitcom or something."

I can relate to MSNBC as a sitom.


18 posted on 03/14/2005 8:03:15 AM PST by IamConservative (To worry is to misuse your imagination.)
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To: KeyesPlease

I wouldn't spend too much time educating the MSM of this. The best education you can get is the one from the school of hard knocks. At this point in time most "journalist" are in line to register for preschool. They have a long way to go. :-)


19 posted on 03/14/2005 8:04:15 AM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: IamConservative

sometimes the ratings of MSNBC are so low they are just a space keeper channel.


20 posted on 03/14/2005 8:05:00 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: GaltMeister

"No kidding! It's like calling MSNBC a newspapper, or a sitcom or something."

Consider MSNBC as more of a low budget cable community access channel.


21 posted on 03/14/2005 8:11:08 AM PST by politicalwit (Republican and Democrats are across the aisle but sleep in the same bed.)
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To: KeyesPlease

To them a post on a forum thread and a blog are synonymous!


22 posted on 03/14/2005 8:11:20 AM PST by BonnieJ
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To: blastdad51

They have night preschool for working "journalists"?


23 posted on 03/14/2005 8:12:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

Working journalist? isn't that an oxy-moron?


24 posted on 03/14/2005 8:20:27 AM PST by blastdad51 (Proud father of an Enduring Freedom vet, and friend of a soldier lost in Afghanistan)
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To: KeyesPlease
"I'm just a guy in his bedroom reading the Internet."

Lol, bump!

25 posted on 03/14/2005 8:22:21 AM PST by JPJones (First and foremost: I'm a Freeper.)
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To: KeyesPlease
blogger

There's that word again.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

26 posted on 03/14/2005 8:26:20 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: KeyesPlease
Many wondered how "Buckhead" could have had such intimate knowledge of type fonts, how he made his posting so soon after the program, and if he was a plant by the Bush administration.

I handed a print out of the CBS memo to my Mom with no context or background and said this was done on a typewriter in the 1970's. In less than than 3 seconds after glancing at the paper, she looked at me cross-eyed and said "This was done on a computer it couldn't have been done on a typewriter."

Twenty year old interns at CBS might have an excuse, but to anyone who has ever worked with a typewriter those documents may as well have been written in crayon and watercolors.
27 posted on 03/14/2005 8:27:18 AM PST by Ragnorak
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To: KeyesPlease

I hereby award buckhead the FR "medal of honor" for his brave and couragous service in the face of the enemy (liberal media), while facing overwhelming firepower buckhead led the charge that brought down Dan Rather and the defeat of the (liberal media) mainstream media.

Ooorahhh, Get some!
JarheadFromFlorida


28 posted on 03/14/2005 8:32:22 AM PST by JarheadFromFlorida (Ooorahhhh........Get Some! Semper Fi')
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To: KeyesPlease
Many wondered how "Buckhead" could have had such intimate knowledge of type fonts, how he made his posting so soon after the program, and if he was a plant by the Bush administration.
The MSM really are clueless. People who have been using computers for a couple of decades or more ought to be able to tell the difference between a 1970s typewritten document and a modern word processed document printed on a laser printer. Furthermore a lawyer would be the ideal type of person to notice. I'm sure they look at all sorts of documents ever day that were written in different decades. I'd think it would be second nature to be able to figure out when something was written based on the kind of typewriter or output device used.
29 posted on 03/14/2005 8:37:15 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: tom paine 2

Don't forget economics and philosophy.


30 posted on 03/14/2005 8:55:47 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: KeyesPlease
In his blog on FreeRepublic.com, writing under the pen name "Buckhead," MacDougald could barely hide his excitement about the media being caught using phony documents: "We should all be gathering recipes for crow, and e-mailing them to these nitwits, because they are going to have to eat a whole lot of it."

31 posted on 03/14/2005 8:56:10 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: tom paine 2
" The people who populate the MSM are products of the Schools of Journalism at the various colleges and universities. These schools are teaching a trade, they are not really educating them. People who have a BS or BA with a diverse mixture of English, Science, History, Art, and Music can outhink these pinheads any day of the week. A good analogy is the results of having our children taught by people with degrees in education."

This is one of the main reasons for the success of the bloggers. Sometimes I just shake my head at the ignorance of the journalists. I knew a lot of people in high school who were better informed than many of the J-school grads

32 posted on 03/14/2005 9:00:38 AM PST by cookcounty (LooneyLibLine: "The ONLY reason for Operation Iraqi FREEDOM was WMD!!" ((repeat til brain is numb))
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To: KeyesPlease

FR is a blog clearing house, if blogs are not read by Freepers, those blogs don't matter.


33 posted on 03/14/2005 9:15:29 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: KeyesPlease; Jim Robinson; Richard Poe; reformjoy; Mia T; Alamo-Girl; Clinton Is Scum; ...

.

Los Angeles Times LIBERAL Media Critic DAVID SHAW's response to RATHERGATE:


RATHER's work 'Shoddy' 'Slipshod' not LIBERAL..?

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227809/posts


Is BUSH really implementing a full-court press on media?

http://www.latimes.com/news/columnists/cl-ca-shaw13mar13,1,4219741.column?coll=la-news-columns


"To the BUSH Adminstration, journalists are not surrogates for the Amerian People; they're just another annoying group of lobbyists, special-interest pleaders seeking not the information necessary for citizens to make intelligent decisions but only the journalists' own ego-gratificiation, carrer advancement and ideological advantage"


In other words, America needs Freerepublic.com's CLARITY.

Always has.
Especially in Time of War.

.


34 posted on 03/14/2005 9:18:04 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Ragnorak

Actually I think nobody who has worked with a computer has an excuse.

It was not about knowing fonts, it was about ASKING QUESTIONS OBJECTIVLY. Mapes worked on the story for FIVE YEARS! Buckhead shreaded the story as a lie in 15 seconds.

THAT is what the story is about.

Even without a FR or internet, the story would have been exposed as a lie. Just more slooooowly. FR lets people talk. The entire nation knew Buckheads observation in that 15 seconds. The entire nation was able to examine and disect his opinion vs CBS/MSM opinions.

The MSM is just discovering something the founding fathers have always known. We are bigger than the media so they better be very careful what they write.


35 posted on 03/14/2005 9:18:35 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: JarheadFromFlorida

All

"HAIL BUCKHEAD" "HAIL BUCKHEAD" "HAIL BUCKHEAD"


36 posted on 03/14/2005 9:24:25 AM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, (OIL FIELD TRASH was fun))
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To: KeyesPlease

I would like to know if Buckhead revealed his own identity and, if not, who revealed it.


37 posted on 03/14/2005 9:32:41 AM PST by Kay
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To: KeyesPlease

Ease up, guys! The article is good, and our focus should be on the great job that a fellow Freeper did, through alertness, intellignece, and accurate knowledge.

That is the story, and the reporter gets the main part right.

Don't miss the main point!


38 posted on 03/14/2005 9:35:33 AM PST by docbnj
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To: longtermmemmory

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Long, long ago.. if we returning Vietnam Veterans had had Freerepublic.com to battle the Vietnam War TV Lies of RATHER/CRONKITE...

...a now Communist-Enslaved South Vietnam would still be Free today.

And millions of poor S.E. Asian Souls would not have had to pay the price for our leaving them behind to their fate at the hands of invading Communist Bullies
...like they did.



Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965
http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1085111/posts


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39 posted on 03/14/2005 9:59:06 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: longtermmemmory
Agreed.

It really is cause for celebration and optimism.

I also believe that this is one for the history books. Matt Drudge on the Monica story will be viewed as the incentive moment, and the Rathergate memo forgeries will go down as the turning point. This will not only overshadow whatever legacy Rather might have had, it will be recorded as the downfall of an entire propagandist, biased, and deceitful media collective. It's morning in America.
40 posted on 03/14/2005 10:00:40 AM PST by Ragnorak
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To: Kay

I'd be interested in knowing that too. Ping me if you find out.


41 posted on 03/14/2005 10:32:43 AM PST by Space Wrangler
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Thanks for the ping!


42 posted on 03/14/2005 10:36:14 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: KeyesPlease
MacDougald, 46, who has been with Atlanta's Womble Carlyle Sandridge & Rice PLLC since 2002, was the blogger "Buckhead" who first started a cascade of criticism about a report Rather aired Sept. 8 on CBS's "60 Minutes II" about President George W. Bush's Air National Guard service.

Why do they insist on calling FR a "blog" site? We're a Conservative News discussion website. Don't they know the difference? Or is FR technically a weblog?

I'm glad to see FR getting so much mention in the press though, anyway.


43 posted on 03/14/2005 10:51:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Space Wrangler; Kay
I would like to know if Buckhead revealed his own identity and, if not, who revealed it.

If I recall correctly, it was the LA Times which dug through all Buckhead's old posts, gathered personal clues from them and 'outed' him.

44 posted on 03/14/2005 10:52:20 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: Kay
I would like to know if Buckhead revealed his own identity and, if not, who revealed it.

An anonymous source in the Bush White House, I bet! :^D

< /humor >


45 posted on 03/14/2005 10:54:52 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
I would like to know if Buckhead revealed his own identity and, if not, who revealed it.
An anonymous source in the Bush White House, I bet! :^D

Rove strikes again. 8^)

46 posted on 03/14/2005 10:57:48 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer
:^D

47 posted on 03/14/2005 11:00:04 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: KeyesPlease

bttt


48 posted on 03/14/2005 11:02:24 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: KeyesPlease
"In his blog on FreeRepublic.com..."

???...they still don't know the difference.



Also from MSNBC:  "They got that intra-net thing on computers now too!"

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that
Peggy Noonan
The Case Against Hillary Clinton, pg 55)

49 posted on 03/14/2005 11:55:58 AM PST by South Hawthorne (Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. "Aww. not even a little?")
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To: KeyesPlease; Buckhead

Score more fame for Free Republic, this should bring in some more rat trolls for us to ZOT!!


50 posted on 03/14/2005 1:01:12 PM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (Never play leapfrog with a unicorn!)
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