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HB 701 CS -- Withholding or Withdrawal of Nutrition or Hydration from Incompetent Persons
FLORIDA RIGHT TO LIFE ^

Posted on 03/14/2005 11:10:37 AM PST by topher

From: Florida Right to Life [mailto:frtl@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:38 AM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: HB 701's next committee hearing action alert!

FLORIDA RIGHT TO LIFE
378 CenterPoint Circle, Suite 1250
Altamonte Springs FL 32701
407.834.5433 phone
407.834.5432 fax
frtl@earthlink.net
www.frtl.org

HB 701 CS -- Withholding or Withdrawal of Nutrition or Hydration from Incompetent Persons
 
 
URGENT ACTION NEEDED!
Hearings and testimony on the Nutrition and Hydration Bill, HB701, will be heard tomorrow by the Health & Families Council  at 9:30-11:00 a.m. Tuesday, March 15, in Room 102  at
 Reed Hall, in the capitol complex in Tallahassee. Anyone can show up at the hearing and fill out a form saying they want to testify.

 
Representatives:
Benson, Anna Holliday (R) Chair
Homan, Ed (R) Vice Chair
Bean, Aaron (R)  
Brandenburg, Mary (D)  
Galvano, Bill (R)  
Garcia, Rene (R)  
Gibson, Hugh (R)  
Harrell, Gayle (R)  
Robaina, Julio (R)  
Sobel, Eleanor (D)  
Vana, Shelley (D)  

Discussion Points in Favor of the Bill


TOPICS: US: Florida
KEYWORDS: hb701
EMAIL Received...
1 posted on 03/14/2005 11:10:38 AM PST by topher
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To: Salvation; Coleus; Ohioan from Florida; cpforlife.org; FL_engineer

Ping! Please use your ping lists! Time is short!


2 posted on 03/14/2005 11:12:25 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: topher

BTTT!!!

This and the Pawschwitz Euthanizing Tame Animals (PETA) thread.


3 posted on 03/14/2005 11:18:53 AM PST by shellshocked (They're undocumented Border Patrol agents, not vigilantes.)
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To: topher

Mike McConnell, a second-rate radio talk show host dedicated his show a week ago last weekend to opposing Terri's being allowed to live. He had just removed the feeding tube from an uncle, and was feeling very modern and with it and self-righteous about it. He took a call from a nurse who claimed that a feeding tube is exactly the same as a ventilator and they both got a big kick out of this notion.

McConnell has recently had programs supporting drug legalization, and against concealed carry legislation. He has also sold advertising to CAIR which is a front for Hamas in the US.

The fellow could use a good freepin'.


4 posted on 03/14/2005 11:19:40 AM PST by johnb838 ("You Have Ruled, Now Let Us See You Enforce" Need some wood?)
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To: Liz; NYer

Ping!


5 posted on 03/14/2005 11:22:02 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: johnb838

mcconnell is wannabe moron and everyone knows it.


6 posted on 03/14/2005 11:22:27 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: topher

Bump for Terri.


7 posted on 03/14/2005 11:22:49 AM PST by PilloryHillary (I lead a simple, heteronormative existence.)
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To: topher

ok, so what's the suggested action here?


8 posted on 03/14/2005 11:22:55 AM PST by the invisib1e hand ("remember, from ashes you came, to ashes you will return.")
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To: floriduh voter; churchillbuff; queenkathy; RoseofTexas; Goodgirlinred

Ping!


9 posted on 03/14/2005 11:26:23 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: the invisib1e hand
ok, so what's the suggested action here?

Next committee hearing Tuesday, March 15, 2004, 9:30 a.m.
Contact committee members

Links to the members provided [their names are web links/URLs]

10 posted on 03/14/2005 11:28:42 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: topher

Prayerful bump! Will call and thanks for posting.


11 posted on 03/14/2005 11:28:56 AM PST by trustandobey
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To: the invisib1e hand
ok, so what's the suggested action here?

Okay -- if you post any of them -- they come up with a form. You only have to give your email and your name.

Then you can tell them how urgent it is to act on this bill.

12 posted on 03/14/2005 11:30:59 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: All
This bill is for Terri Schiavo. Action on this bill is the number 1 action item from www.TerrisFight.org:

There are still some things that can spare Terri, and disabled people like her, from this type of forced death. Some of them require your help.

1. Florida’s House and Senate are considering a dehydration and starvation protection act that would require stronger evidence of informed consent prior to removing assisted food and fluids from an incapacitated patient. If you are a Floridian, a disability advocate or an elder care advocate, you can let Florida’s lawmakers know that you want them to consider such an act.

Contact Florida’s Lawmakers here.

www.flsenate.gov – Senate

www.myfloridahouse.gov – House


13 posted on 03/14/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: topher; floriduh voter; phenn; FreepinforTerri; kimmie7; Pegita; windchime; tutstar; Deo volente; ..

Thanks, topher!

Terri ping! If anyone would like to be added to or removed from my Terri ping list, please let me know by FReepmail!


14 posted on 03/14/2005 11:46:15 AM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: topher

bttt


15 posted on 03/14/2005 11:50:36 AM PST by Dante3
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To: johnb838

Do you know any other advertisers on his show? Might be worth contacting them and letting them know where their ads are.


16 posted on 03/14/2005 11:53:32 AM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: topher

Will they take e-mails from out of state individuals?
Or better yet, will they consider them?


17 posted on 03/14/2005 11:55:39 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: Lesforlife
Will they take e-mails from out of state individuals? Or better yet, will they consider them?

They do not REQUIRE an address. You only have to enter your name and email. I checked several and they appear to use a common form -- but it goes to the representative that you click on [first click on representative, then click on sending email].

18 posted on 03/14/2005 11:59:53 AM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: Lesforlife
Will they take e-mails from out of state individuals? Or better yet, will they consider them?

The Republicans do not need much emailing and there are only three Democats. I sent mail "Mary" the following:

Have you ever seen someone starve to death or even worse be denied water so that they die of thirst?

There is quite a bit of Pain, so I urge immediate action on SB 701. Please -- for Terri's sake -- you can make a difference.

God bless,

Chris[topher]


19 posted on 03/14/2005 12:06:08 PM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: topher

They're going to get this out of committee to a floor vote and senate ratification in 3 to 6 days? I don't know why they waited this long.

BTTT


20 posted on 03/14/2005 12:08:43 PM PST by hattend (Liberals! Beware the Perfect Rovian Storm [All Hail the Evil War Monkey King, Chimpus Khan!])
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To: topher

Mega bump for action.


21 posted on 03/14/2005 12:09:00 PM PST by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: topher

Link to the actual bill that people are asked to back?


22 posted on 03/14/2005 12:09:09 PM PST by Smartaleck
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To: All
THE TERRI SCHIAVO INFORMATION PAGE
23 posted on 03/14/2005 12:24:52 PM PST by windchime (Hillary: "I've always been a preying person")
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To: hattend

The Florida Legislature just went into session, and that is why this new legislation couldn't be addressed until now.


24 posted on 03/14/2005 12:36:36 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: topher

Praying here, and blogging while praying...


25 posted on 03/14/2005 12:53:00 PM PST by dandelion
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To: topher; Lesforlife; Ohioan from Florida; Wampus SC; 8mmMauser; FL_engineer; atruelady; amdgmary; ...

Just got on our local talk show and brought up the Carla Iyer, RN, and Trudy Capone, RN, affidavits.

Our local talk show host just said, "Her husband is a scumbag."

Running 99% for Terri.

Back to emailing Florda re HB701 CS after calling DC re S 539.

26 posted on 03/14/2005 4:00:29 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Did you read the affidavits to him, Phil? Or was he already familiar with what those affidavits said? Were you able to tell him about www.terrisfight.org? Was he interested in reading more documents? How about the bone scan, does he know about that? Does he want anything e-mailed to him?

Sorry, I know it's a lot of questions....sounds like you had a receptive to the truth listener. That's great that you made a call!!


27 posted on 03/14/2005 4:19:39 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
The caller before me mentioned priestsforlife.org and terrisfight.org and asked Jim if he'd seen the video.

He had and asked, "Would you say this person has value?"

Caller responded, "You bet I would!"

Jim says, "That's what I think."

He's also repeatedly said the husband conveniently remembered she'd want to die after he got the two mill.

He's said repeatedly the husband is afraid she'll regain the ability to talk and tell about how he threw her down the stairs.

The program continues and most are aware, and most of those who aren't, quickly come to Jesus.

And we're midway through a three-day snowstorm.

28 posted on 03/14/2005 4:35:19 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Very good, Phil, that he knows the truth and is making sure that others HEAR it!!! Very good, indeed. Thanks for sharing.


29 posted on 03/14/2005 5:23:41 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: topher

BTTT


30 posted on 03/14/2005 7:08:51 PM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: topher
The following is from LifeNews.com [Steven Ertelt]:

Web link is: Florida Legislators Agree on Bill to Save Terri Schiavo From Starvation

[paraphasing used]

1. Lawmakers reached a deal on Monday for the new bill.

2. The new bill will only allow deprivation of food and water if there is clear and convincing evidence that a person who want to be starved/dehydrated to death. The article goes on to say that sitting around the kitchen table talking about this is insufficient.

3. Gov Bush will come on board only if the bill is left in tact.

4. The bill has a much narrower scope than the original bill. The broader bill would have required doctors and lawyers to be involved [in my opinion, never a good thing].

5. The bill may be passed as early as Thursday.

6. Gov Jeb Bush's legal counsel is involved in the formulation of the bill.


31 posted on 03/14/2005 7:12:31 PM PST by Richard Proute (Richard Prouty of Scituate -- Great, Great, Great Grandson)
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To: Richard Proute
Here is the full article that Richard Proute is referring to:

http://www.lifenews.com/bio779.html

Florida Legislators Agree on Bill to Save Terri Schiavo From Starvation

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 14, 2005

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Florida lawmakers on Monday reached a deal on legislation that could prevent the beginning of a painful starvation death for Terri Schiavo. Legislators agreed to a modified version of legislation previously introduced to help disabled patients.

The revised bill is expected to have hearings tomorrow and come up for a vote on the House and Senate floors as early as Thursday.

Terri's estranged husband Michael is allowed to begin the 7-10 day long starvation process Friday afternoon by removing her feeding tube.

The new bill would prevent a legal guardian from allowing a person in a so-called persistent vegetative state to die by withholding food or water. That could only happen if the patient had previously issued an advance directive authorizing it to be withheld.

Although Terri is not in a persistent vegetative state, Florida courts have sided with Michael and ruled that she is in such a medical condition. As a result, the legislation would apply to Terri and supersede the court's decision to allow her death or the death of any similar patient.

Governor Jed Bush will likely sign the legislation once it receives a final approval. His legal counsel has been working with members of the legislature to fashion the bill, according to an Orlando Sentinel newspaper report.

"If we can pretty much keep it intact, he'll be on board," Rep. Dennis Bailey, a Republican who is sponsoring the bill in the House, told the Orlando paper.

The revised legislation was created as an alternative to a broader bill that would have required doctors and courts to presume that a patient would want food and water unless specified otherwise in an advance directive.

The newer bill, aimed at legal guardians and only PVS patients, will likely enjoy more support.

The new bill would only allow food and water to be deprived if there is "clear and convincing evidence" that the PVS patient had verbally indicated he did not want it.

House Judiciary Committee chairman Rep. David Simmons, told the Orlando paper that was a tough standard to meet.

A casual conversation "sitting around the dinner table, that's not going to rise to the level that will permit the denial of sustenance and hydration," Simmons said.

That's the kind of conversation Michael claims he had with Terri and the one courts have favored. They declined to rule in favor of a best friend of Terri who indicated Terri said she would never want food and water to be denied to her.

If approved and signed by the governor, this would be the second time the Florida legislature and Governor Bush have stepped in to save Terri's life.

The Florida Supreme Court overturned a previous bill more specifically aimed at Terri saying it was a violation of the separation of powers clause in the state constitution.

Republican Sen. Dan Webster, the bill's sponsor in the Senate, told the Orlando newspaper that this revised bill was drafted to meet the concerns Florida courts cited with the previous one.

Related web sites: Terri Schiavo's parents - http://www.TerrisFight.org
Florida state legislature - http://www.leg.state.fl.us

32 posted on 03/14/2005 7:22:26 PM PST by topher (Pray for our leaders -- Pray for our Chief Justice of the Supreme Court)
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To: topher

Dear Lord in Heaven, we humbly ask for supernatural intervention in Terri's case! Please work thru these legislators so they accomplish your will!


33 posted on 03/14/2005 7:26:39 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: topher

Good News but Greer is just going to rule that since Mr. Schiavo told him that his wife said one time that she wanted to die that is clear and convincing evidence and order the starvation to commence in earnest.

We all expect that.

Question is what will the FL Supremes do about it.


34 posted on 03/14/2005 7:44:05 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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