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Mainline Christian Anti-Semitism (Why Presbyterian, WCC and Lutheran churches side with terrorists)
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2005 | David Meir-Levi

Posted on 03/15/2005 5:07:23 AM PST by SJackson

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To: familyop
What if our leaders had recognized in their legislation and resolutions exactly who the enemy is? That is our war is not against terror because there will always be terror, but we can not always be a state of national war. The truth is our war is against Islamo-fascism -- and one the primal tenets -- in fact, THE SINGULAR DEFINING PRINCIPLE, so I and others hold -- of that enemy is that Israel must be annihilated.

Yet our leaders have NOT so identified the enemy.

Because of that lack we have no proper law to uphold such legitimate restraint on speech during war.

121 posted on 05/13/2007 8:00:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Has anyone been convicted for instigating any boycott against Chinese products? Would such conviction be possible under the law that you’re mentioning?


122 posted on 05/13/2007 8:01:42 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Mamzelle

I really don’t appreciate the inaccuracy of smearing “the Presbyterian Church,” “the Lutheran Church,” and “the Anglican Church” without naming WHICH of the denominations with those generic names the author means.

There are several “Presbyterian” churches for example—consisting of many hundreds of congregations—which have nothing to do with the mainline Presbyterian Church USA.

Probably over a 1/3 of Lutheran churches in the USA are Luthern Church Missouri Synod, very conservative, which also has nothing to do with the mainline (liberal) Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

“Anglican” is the name orthodox and/or evangelical Episcopalians have take up who have LEFT the leftist pansexual mainline church called The Episcopal Church. Why the author chose to use “Anglican” I don’t understand, especially when the Episcopalians he’s writing about don’t use the term...

Not being specific will cause suspicion and misunderstanding unearned by the conservative orthodox Presbyterians, Lutherans and Anglicans.


123 posted on 05/13/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: familyop

Well, the principle that that there are different laws in wartime is a a a general principle — a principle of Natural Law. One instance is Abraham Lincoln’s rescinding of the Writ of Habeus Corpus during the Civil War.


124 posted on 05/13/2007 8:03:41 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

...agreed that the enemy hasn’t been correctly identified as being Islamo-fascist.


125 posted on 05/13/2007 8:05:58 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

Interesting. Thinking of the current poisoned food problem. Isn’t a list of the companies that used the Chinese “food” products the equivalent of a “Boycott Israel” list?


126 posted on 05/13/2007 8:06:07 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
"Interesting. Thinking of the current poisoned food problem. Isn’t a list of the companies that used the Chinese 'food' products the equivalent of a 'Boycott Israel' list?"

Of course it's not morally or tactically equivalent. ...but legally? I don't know and would need to see the text before knowing. ...and need to return to other study for now.
127 posted on 05/13/2007 8:09:50 PM PDT by familyop
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To: SJackson

The “mainline” Protestant Churches are guilty of apostasy.

They do not recognize homosexuality as a grievous sin, many of them deny the personality of Satan or the existence of Agnels, and they frequently question the primacy of Biblical scripture.

They have become dens of sin and error - which is why they are losing members to Fundamentalist Christian Churches and the Catholic Church.


128 posted on 05/13/2007 8:35:08 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: bvw
Compiling a list is a form of speech. Distributing the list is a form of speech. It is political speech, and should enjoy the highest of protections. See for example:

It can be, as are financial contributions.

Speech is restricted in many instances, including the advocacy of criminal activity. Which I don't think is happening here, the Congressmen are overstepping for political gain which politicians do. But the idea that religious institutions contrary to law could become part of a foreign boycott based either on speech or their status as religious institutions doesn't hold water.

You're correct the courts could change their mind. My guess, if you see this issue raised it's likely to be in a case of speech advocating violence, which was acted on, but we'll see.

129 posted on 05/14/2007 7:17:53 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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Lets keep it in the religious realm.

Should a group of mosques file a suit demanding their right to speak out in support of Hamas, Hizbollah, or any designated terror group, and raise funds for them, base of freedom of religion and free speech, would you support them on Constitutional grounds?

130 posted on 05/14/2007 7:22:27 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: bvw; familyop
Lets keep it in the religious realm.

Should a group of mosques file a suit demanding their right to speak out in support of Hamas, Hizbollah, or any designated terror group, and raise funds for them, base of freedom of religion and free speech, would you support them on Constitutional grounds?

Do you similarly consider the Logan Act unconstitutional on similar grounds of speech and association?

131 posted on 05/14/2007 7:24:52 AM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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To: Mamzelle

Hijacking the Leadership of Churches is a long established sport. I just would not want to be in the shoes of the Hijackers when they meet St Peter and get the bad news..

W


132 posted on 05/14/2007 9:24:09 AM PDT by WLR
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