Mainline Christian Anti-Semitism (Why Presbyterian, WCC and Lutheran churches side with terrorists)

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | March 15, 2005 | David Meir-Levi

[bvw]

Bosh! The right of speaking freely about international dealings by Americans and American entities is fully within the properly protected of free speech rights under original intent.

[bvw]

A government might prohibit buying some item, or demand that some item (such as insurance, such as emissions reducing equipemnt, such as fire alarms, etc) be purchased as a condition of public usage of some item - but to prohibit a boycott -- is to prohibit free speech and general liberties of commerce. There is NO power to do so under the treaties clause. Except in the cancerous and shadowy overgrowth of a "living constitution".

[joylyn]

Ditto. I am an ELCA Lutheran and would like to stay that way, but for the politics of the denomination leadership. I don't want to be a Missouri Synod Lutheran. I want my church back. But how do we go about this? Is there any hope?

[Wallace T.]

The PCA should change its denominational name. To many people, including most evangelicals, "Presbyterian" is just a ten dollar word for "liberal". I'm sure that many Baptists and independents are surprised to hear that James Kennedy, R.C. Sproul, and the late James Montgomery Boice are Presbyterians.

[nmh]

Hey, so did the Pope.

He was against the war in Iraq.

To be against the war to remove Saddam Insane is to want his staying in power.

[SJackson]

Bosh! The right of speaking freely about international dealings by Americans and American entities is fully within the properly protected of free speech rights under original intent.

They can speak about it all they want. As they have been month after month.

A government might prohibit buying some item...but to prohibit a boycott -- is to prohibit free speech and general liberties of commerce.

The government can prohibit and punish compliance with a boycott issued by a foreign power but not authorized by the State Dept. It's a settled issue, based on the governments monopoly on conducting foreign relations. If the various Churchs run into problems here, the question will likely be whether they're complying with the Arab boycott. Thus far they've stayed on the safe side of that line. BTW, the boycott issue deals primarily with commercial issues, not purchases by individuals.

[WKUHilltopper]

The Jews are chosen of God. I wouldn't have any thing other than support for Israel if I were leaders of these churches. Apparently they know little of what the scriptures teach. Perhaps they are better off serving their churches selling used cars rather than their version of the Gospells.

[SJackson]

If you're interested.

Office of Antiboycott Compliance

Shearman & Sterling Antiboycott Laws and Regulations

Boycott Watch Contends: Divest-from-Israel Campaigns May Violate the Federal Antiboycott Law

[bvw]

I glimpsed at it. Bad law is bad law. It's a bad law. Break a bad law and the penalities can be especially harsh -- the prosecutorial zeal seems to overwhelm in enforceing bad laws.

It's against both free speech and the established liberty of commerce.

[meanie monster]

I watch him every Sunday and he was once in prison. I luv him. They have to direct traffic every Sunday just so people can go. I am going there SUNDAY

[rightsmart]

I am a LCMS (Missouri synod) Lutheran and my sister is a ELCA church. Her church membership does not like what their national leadership is doing either. They have voted to become independent at least twice, but can't get enough members of their church to go along with it. Instead her church decided to no longer send money to the national leadership. I have also heard of entire churches changing from one synod of Lutheran to another. If you don't like what is happening you can change your membership (easiest), change your local church's affiliation (harder), or change your synod (hardest).

[xzins]

If travel to Cuba WERE an element of my religious practice (cf Mecca, Jerusalem, etc.), then I would travel to Cuba.

"No law...denying the free exercise thereof..."

I might think it's wrong for them to be anti-Semitic, but for them to divest themselves of holdings they take to be against their religion is their right not their privilege.

[Babsig]

A big AMEN to all of that. I grew up in a strict fundimentist baptist church. Even went to BJU. But now, we are active members of a Bible church that teaches grace not legalism and living the gospel. The church is closer to reformed doctrine then baptist teachings. I see a movement in the fundimentalist churches to the going back of true Bible principles and gospel centered preaching then just moral teaching.

[Guenevere]

Well said!!

[Sender]

I'm assuming that these denominations do not hand out "What Would Jesus Do?" bracelets.

[Lurking Libertarian]

My exception for the above line is a constitutional issue. "Congress shall make no law....denying the free exercise (of religion.)" That law cannot apply to churches because Congress can make NO LAW regarding someone's exercise of religion. What part of NO LAW don't they understand????!!

Can the Government ban Moloch-worshippers from practicing human sacrifice?

[xzins]

"Keep and bear arms".....Can the government ban you from owning an M1A1 Abrahms Tank?

[onedoug]

As a non-Jew I went to the synagogue. It's among the best things I've ever done.