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Brazilian men take on wives' surnames
ananova ^ | 3-15-05

Posted on 03/15/2005 8:03:55 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

Brazilian men take on wives' surnames

Brazilian men are belying their macho reputation by taking on their wives' surnames.

Registry officials in Sao Paolo say 540 grooms adopted their bride's surname in the last three months.

Psychologist Deisely Carreiro Stefani told Folha de Sao Paulo newspaper: "By doing this the men show their brides how much they love and admire them."

Newlywed Jeremias Oliveira de Souza used to be called Jeremias Silva Luz.

He said: "When I got married, I wanted to start a new story with my wife and forget the sad things of the past."


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No way. I'm keeping my last name to my grave. Some great people of the past carried that name. If that name is good enough for dad, grandfather, great grandfather(who I was named after), and his dad in Ireland, it's good enough for my kids and I.

I also happen to be of the old school when it comes to that.

1 posted on 03/15/2005 8:03:59 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan


zzzzzZZZZZZZzzzzzz......


2 posted on 03/15/2005 8:05:57 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Dan from Michigan

I used to call my ex "Atilla, the Wife". (I'll never understand why that woman divorced me).


3 posted on 03/15/2005 8:07:06 PM PST by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
They may have "other" reasons to take their brides name - such as a past that may not pass scrutiny with the policia.
4 posted on 03/15/2005 8:07:11 PM PST by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: Dan from Michigan



Ewwwwww I would have no respect for a man that takes a womans name. That is just wrong.


5 posted on 03/15/2005 8:07:48 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm in the process of ditching mine. But not for any reasons listed. 3 Letters is much shorter, simpler and not as mis-spelled as often as a 9 letter name. No weird permutations, no more listening to someone with a microphone take 4 running attempts to pronounce it, no more 'typographical errors' in the mail.

And south of the Mason Dixon line, if someone can't spell this 3 letter name, I believe I'm legally entitled to slap them.


6 posted on 03/15/2005 8:09:32 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

I have no respect for a man that marries a woman knowing they will not take his last name, or will us a hyphenated name, totally ridiculous...


7 posted on 03/15/2005 8:10:33 PM PST by AKSurprise
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To: Dan from Michigan
This is sick. As it should be, my wife isn't even known by her first name anymore. She's known as "the wife of Jaysun" and that's how her headstone will read.
8 posted on 03/15/2005 8:10:59 PM PST by Jaysun (If you eat mayonnaise on your hot dogs please don't talk to me.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Nice profile page!


9 posted on 03/15/2005 8:11:35 PM PST by Eireann go Brach
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To: Hodar

Ass? LoL


10 posted on 03/15/2005 8:11:57 PM PST by scab4faa (Wanted : TAGLINE Dead or Alive $500 reward)
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To: SouthernFreebird
Ewwwwww I would have no respect for a man that takes a womans name. That is just wrong.

So, if your family name was 'Sczakenquentina' and your wife's name was Jones; you'd want to stick with 'Sczakenquentina'? And yes, there are far worse last names than that... I think we both know of some real names that are unprintable in this forum.

If you have a 'doozie' and you decide to stick with it, do you think you are doing your children any favors?

11 posted on 03/15/2005 8:13:58 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: BipolarBob

¡Si! And "courted" her with machismo lines like "You are so beautiful, I wish I were cross eyed so I could see you twice!" :)


12 posted on 03/15/2005 8:15:05 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Dan from Michigan
"By doing this the men show their brides how much they love and admire them."

By doing this the men show their brides what easily dominated wussies they are.

13 posted on 03/15/2005 8:15:14 PM PST by VRWCmember
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To: Dan from Michigan

I'm one of the lucky ones. Not only is my wife exponentially better looking than me, she happens to have the same name as a famous porn star half her age. The suggestion that she change her name to mine never came up.


14 posted on 03/15/2005 8:16:45 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Brazil seems to be getting a little too European anyway. Or is it Europe is geting a little too Brazilian?


15 posted on 03/15/2005 8:16:50 PM PST by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: Hodar
"And south of the Mason Dixon line, if someone can't spell this 3 letter name, I believe I'm legally entitled to slap them."

"Lee"?

16 posted on 03/15/2005 8:17:51 PM PST by Fido969
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To: Jaysun

LOL! I hope she takes her hot dogs with mayo. :D


17 posted on 03/15/2005 8:18:00 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Jaysun

LOL. My regards to "WOJ".

My cousin and his bride decided not to take either of their birth surnames, rather they picked a Native American (Indian) name as their new last name. Neither of them have a drop of American Indian blood in them. His papa wasn't too happy.


18 posted on 03/15/2005 8:18:29 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Hodar



You do your children a great favor when you behave as a man.


19 posted on 03/15/2005 8:19:26 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: Dan from Michigan

I had a friend from law school who hated his parents so much that when he got married, he took his wife's name to spite them.


20 posted on 03/15/2005 8:19:26 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: LNewman

I'm not even going to try and guess what that means!


21 posted on 03/15/2005 8:19:43 PM PST by scab4faa (Wanted : TAGLINE Dead or Alive $500 reward)
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To: Dan from Michigan
He said: "When I got married, I wanted to start a new story with my wife and forget the sad things of the past."

Well, I've always found Icelandic names rather intriguing.  No wonder they write family sagas going back centuries.  How else could they keep their own genealogy from bleeding all over the landscape?

Many foreigners who visit Iceland become confused when they look through an Icelandic telephone directory, because persons are listed alphabetically by their first name. Icelanders regard the first name as the "real" name. The last name of a person is rarely used to identify a person.

Icelandic surnames are also quite special. Surnames, which exist from generation to generation in other European cultures, are rare in Iceland. In Iceland, the father's first name is used as the base to the child's last name. For example, Baldur Þórsson and Freyja Óðinsdóttir have two children, Kristín and Björn. The children's last names would be Kristín Baldursdóttir and Björn Baldursson. It is also possible to make a last name using the name of the mother, but it is uncommon.

The same naming tradition existed in Sweden and Norway until the second part of the 19th century. In certain areas of western Sweden, it continued even longer.

Iceland


22 posted on 03/15/2005 8:19:46 PM PST by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: CheneyChick

If I were his father I would be also, that is totally asinine.


23 posted on 03/15/2005 8:19:54 PM PST by AKSurprise
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To: CheneyChick
My cousin and his bride decided not to take either of their birth surnames, rather they picked a Native American (Indian) name as their new last name. Neither of them have a drop of American Indian blood in them.

You're cousin is Ward Churchill?

24 posted on 03/15/2005 8:21:02 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: BipolarBob
They may have "other" reasons to take their brides name - such as a past that may not pass scrutiny with the policia.

As a private investigator and deputy prosecutor, I can assure you that it is VERY hard to track down a suspect who has taken his wife's surname.
25 posted on 03/15/2005 8:21:06 PM PST by hispanichoosier
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To: Hodar

Hi Bob.


26 posted on 03/15/2005 8:22:12 PM PST by LPM1888 (What are the facts? Again and again and again -- what are the facts? - Lazarus Long)
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To: Hodar

Hey, some of us Sczakenquentinas are very proud of our heritage. It's a very common name in certain parts of the Caprivi Zipfeld and in the southern corner of the Neutral Zone.


27 posted on 03/15/2005 8:22:35 PM PST by speedy
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To: Dan from Michigan

How do you say "Wussy" in Portuguese?


28 posted on 03/15/2005 8:23:00 PM PST by Noachian (Impeach a Judge - Save a Nation)
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To: scab4faa

Me either. Looked a little strange after I sent it.


29 posted on 03/15/2005 8:23:04 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Dan from Michigan

That's pathetic


30 posted on 03/15/2005 8:23:47 PM PST by Vision (When Hillary Says She's Going To Put The Military On Our Borders...She Becomes Our Next President)
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To: scab4faa
Ah, now I remember. It was part of Jaysun's tagline ....

Never mind ... it still looks strange. ;)

31 posted on 03/15/2005 8:25:21 PM PST by LNewman
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To: Hodar

My last name's easy, it's my first name that used to give me fits when people tried to spell it. The day one of my junior high school teachers spelled it "Terica" on the blackboard, I started to have people call me Teri.

I took my ex's name when we married, and wouldn't have had it any other way, but after the divorce I took back my family's name.


32 posted on 03/15/2005 8:30:36 PM PST by Theresawithanh (2005! My resolution: FReep even MORE this year!!!)
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To: Hodar

"if someone can't spell this 3 letter name, I believe I'm legally entitled to slap them."

I believe you are legally entitled to draw back a nub!


33 posted on 03/15/2005 8:31:11 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: Moonman62

ROFL! No - thank goodness!

Thanks for the laugh, though.....


34 posted on 03/15/2005 8:35:28 PM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Dan from Michigan

This is f--kin' gay. Then again, most of the Brazillian men I've run into in Florida are queer as a three dollar bill. What do you expect from a country who's male head of state is referred to as "Lula."


35 posted on 03/15/2005 8:36:28 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: Fido969
"Lee" was what occurred to me too...

No Presidents have had three-letter names, unless you count FDR, JFK and LBJ. 4 Presidents have had 9-letter names: Jefferson, Cleveland, and the two Roosevelts.

36 posted on 03/15/2005 8:40:28 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Dan from Michigan

Well, in Mexico if I remember right, the child of Thomas Garcia Mendez and Linda Garcia de Vazquez would be Bubba Garcia Vazquez. Bubba's Paternal grandparents would be Francisco Garcia Herrerra and Maria Garcia de Mendez. Bubbas Maternal grand parents would be Pedro Vazquez Soto and Elena Vazquez de Lerma.
Confusing at first but much easier on genealogists 3 generations later.


37 posted on 03/15/2005 8:41:05 PM PST by hispanarepublicana (I was Lucy Ramirez when being Lucy Ramirez was't cool.)
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To: Eireann go Brach
Nice profile page!

Thank you and welcome to FR. I saw yours. If I wasn't red/green colorblind I would be taking flying lessons.

Most of my dad's family came from Ballydehob. Some stayed behind there.

38 posted on 03/15/2005 8:51:39 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God" - Braveheart)
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To: SouthernFreebird

This is actually quite common in Latin American countries.


39 posted on 03/15/2005 9:01:34 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Dan from Michigan
No way. I'm keeping my last name to my grave. Some great people of the past carried that name.

...okay Mr. "from Michigan." Howcome you don't capitalize "from?" Howcome "from Michigan" isn't hyphenated, huh??

...and BTW..."from Michigan" doesn't sound all that Irish to me....

40 posted on 03/15/2005 9:11:28 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Well... the O' was changed to avoid discrimation, and it ends in "gan" which is a common ending of Irish names. :)


41 posted on 03/15/2005 9:45:32 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("In order to find his equal, an Irishman is forced to talk to God" - Braveheart)
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To: Dan from Michigan

So it used to be O'Higan and now it's MicHigan.


42 posted on 03/16/2005 2:21:08 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Hodar

Dan I can't tell you how wrong you are. My last name is three letters long and I'd hazard to guess you hear it more than a few times each day just listening to the radio.

I've thought of changing my last name to include the spelling of it because I have to spell it out almost every time I use it on the phone. One good thing though, it is only three letters so spelling it isn't too time consuming.


43 posted on 03/16/2005 2:25:59 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: Outlaw76

Sorry Hodar (not Dan)... My eye wandered when reading what you wrote.


44 posted on 03/16/2005 2:30:04 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Citizens on the Bounce!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Don't be fooled. This can also be a cover for some men. They can legally change their names and become more difficult to track fom ex wives and mistresses. A guy I knew, "Junior" in Rio was a prime example of this thinking. He had his wife, his girlfriend, his lover, the woman he loved and kept some school girls on the side for after work. I imagine he had many continuing reasons to want to change his name.
45 posted on 03/16/2005 2:33:48 PM PST by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AKSurprise

I know a guy that took his wife's name when he got married. His parents divorced and his last name got changed when his mom re-married, he hated his abussive stepfather and didn't feel the guy had any right to have him carry on the family name, he never really knew his real father, so when he got married he changed his last name.


46 posted on 03/16/2005 2:38:33 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: Dan from Michigan
The folklore of the Semitic culture, they tell you that we are identified by our mothers rather than fathers. A Jew is known to be a son of a Jewish mother rather than a son of a Jewish father.
47 posted on 03/16/2005 2:42:45 PM PST by conservlib
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To: Dan from Michigan

Mr. Asswipe (pronounced azzweepay) supports this practice.


48 posted on 03/16/2005 2:45:08 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: Fido969

Bingo.


49 posted on 03/16/2005 3:02:17 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: SouthernFreebird
You do your children a great favor when you behave as a man.

This is another matter entirely. You do your children a favor when you make a good role model, and teach them to strive to be the best they can be. But that is NOT the point being debated.

If your family name is Hogg, Seaman, Schlitthed, or other similar name, the kids will be singled out for abuse. Kids are cruel, and adults can be just a little less cruel. Introduce yourself as "Phil Micraken" at your next interview.

There is no shame in dropping a surname that either has taken on a new and un-intended meaning, is simply bad, or is awkward. I doubt you have any problems expecting Mohammed Isbarr Myied Kalarid Saraginai to change his name. I would expect this individual to change his name, for no other reason other than to match the culture of his new home. Same thing for many Asian immigrants. Why does a man have to keep a lousy last name?

50 posted on 03/16/2005 3:08:47 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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